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Tiny White Worms on my Kitchen Ceiling ...turn to tiny moths

on 9/20/09 7:36 pm
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Oh this is so gross...I swear I'm a very clean person too. In the last 2 weeks i've found these teeny tiny worms on my kitchen ceiling. ( there smaller then a 1/2 inch, thin, cream in color w/ black spot on one end (head ?) I've also had a few tiny moths flying around. I went on the internet and I think I have some kind of    GRAIN BUG   that must have come into my house from food I bought a Shoprite.

Help Please ..Has anyone ever had to deal with this? What do I do?  Do I have to throw out everything in cabnets ? Even unopened ? I have so much food in this pantry. $$$$$$$
Do I have to throw away unopen protein shakes in pouches ? What do you have  to toss ? I assume cans can be kept .
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on 9/20/09 7:51 pm
I wouldn't start throwing stuff away till I contacted a company who will come spray your house.  They can probably tell you what your creepy critters are.  You could also catch one in a jar and take it to your county extension agent.  They are familiar with all kinds of things like that.  As for as it coming in with the groceries, I'd think they would be particularly bad in your cabinets or wherever else you store your things.  After you discover what they are, you'll be better able to deal with the problem.  Good luck, hope you don't lose $$.
on 9/20/09 8:03 pm, edited 9/20/09 8:49 pm - owensboro, KY
on 9/20/09 8:44 pm - Paradise, CA
I have had these before, if it is the same thing.  I went through my  pantry and threw away any thing that was opened.  It took me awhile to get rid of them.  The first time several years ago that this happened they came in with some bird food that I had bought.  When I got this again a couple of years ago (different house and area).  I assumed that they came in with some groceries I had bought.  Since I no longer had any birds.  I too am a very clean person.  This has nothing to do with how these things come to be in your pantry.  I spent two weeks killing those worms and moths.  It took me two or three times going through the pantry.  I went through and threw things away I thought was infected.  I still had signs of the infestation.  So another trip through the pantry.  I think that your protein packs should be safe.  I put new containers of staples that I bought in the freezer or fridge.  I stored my flour and sugar and bisquick their until I was sure that they were gone.  They really like bisquick for some reason.  Hope this helps.  Calling an exterminator might be a good idea they may have some other ideas.


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on 9/20/09 9:02 pm - Mouseville, FL
DS on 07/13/06 with

I always put a bay leaf in flour and that keeps the vermin out.




Lynn B
on 9/20/09 9:06 pm
They are called Pantry Moths - They come in with flour, grains, nuts, pasta - that type of stuff. You have to throw out all infected food, empty and clean everything, They get into little spaces and can be hard to get rid of. I use air tight containers for all of those products now. Google them, there is a lot of info online. Good luck!

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Amy Farrah Fowler
on 9/20/09 9:22 pm
These have nothing to do with housekeeping, and can be pestier in some parts of the country.

Look up pantry pest traps. There are several types, and most seem to work great, and are non-toxic. Most have a pheromone scent lure, that draws the moth to it, and gets it stuck on adhesive before it can get to the food or lay eggs.

Get rid of infected stuff, and then place some traps. That will be the end of the bugs.

I haven't had any type of pest for over 15 years now.
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on 9/20/09 11:37 pm - San Jose, CA

We had this problem at home AND at work (and I work in a building that has laboratory animals, so this was a BIG problem).  It turned out I was probably the source of the infestation at work! I had bought some protein bars to keep at work -- in aluminum foil sealed pouches no less! -- and somehow the pantry moths got into the protein bars (which I never ate because they were GROSS -- I just figured I'd keep them around in case I got trapped in the building after an earthquake or something).  Those larvae can eat through ANYTHING! 

Our company mascot is a mouse, and I had all these souvenier BeanieBaby mice in different outfits, which I think were full of rice, because my mice got infested too and had to be tossed.  We couldn't spray because of the risk to our lab mice, and so it was a slow cleanup by trapping the moths and destroying all food items stored in our end of the building.  It was kinda embarrassing too, being identified as the source of the infestation.

At home it took a long time too -- those buggers got into closed packages of EVERYTHING -- they flattened themselves to get through the "seals" of tuppers and those click-top packages.  They got into the sugar AND the salt.  All the grains in the house had to be tossed.  And the larvae pupated in weird-ass places like in the crown molding near the ceiling.  We figured they came into the house with some food product (the protein bars?) and then multiplied in the pantry for a while before we realized what was going on.

Icky, but better than roaches!

* Gail R *
on 9/21/09 11:45 am - SF Bay Area, CA
After my last infestation, I put everything that was grain based into zip-lock bags. If I buy, say, pancake mix, the entire box and all goes into the bag. That way nothing has a chance of being infested.

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Anna G.
on 9/21/09 12:26 pm
I just got rid of a major Indian Meal Moth infestation, which sounds exactly like what you're describing. I had tons of the damn things and those larva were in everything! I had to throw out everything that wasn't canned. I did keep a few things that were very new, but I put them in the freezer just to be safe. 5 hours in the freezer will kill any of the larvae or moths.

You need to get some pheromone traps! That's how I got rid of them. It attracts the male moths and traps them on a sticky surface. Then eventually, with the males gone, you have no more moths.

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on 9/21/09 12:52 pm
on 9/21/09 12:52 pm - Manteca, CA
Hi GF, I am so sorry you have to deal with this. Years ago, when I was preggo with my second child, I had made a turkey balogna sandwhich I think it was. All of a sudden I went into labor. Can you say fast? My husband was home or maybe he came home fast and we dropped my first daughter at the  neighbors and my mom was going to come pick her up. We rushed out of the house and left the balonga sitting on the table. We didn't bother to pitch it or put it in the fridge. When I came home from the  hospital in a couple of days, we had these flying bugs. Never really got rid of them until we moved to a new home a few months later. Didn't know about all these tricks to get rid of them pesty vermin.




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walter A.
on 9/21/09 3:42 pm, edited 9/21/09 3:43 pm - lafayette, NJ
DS on 11/12/10 with
they can be almost invisible, watch for telltale signs of infestations like burrowing in spice jars or grain sticking in very fine webs found this in unopened oatmeal packages.

remember to add in the extra protien
on 9/21/09 4:19 pm, edited 9/21/09 4:20 pm
We had problems with pantry pests. We had to throw out everything not in cans and jars because they had even eaten through plastic bags and some containers. They had even gotten into the flip top spice containers. GROSS! We ended up buying a secondhand refrigerator and everything bugs might be able to get into is stored in there.

If you have food you think might be safe, put it in the freezer for 14 days. If anything was in there, that much freezer time will kill it.

My protein powders live in the spare refrigerator.
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on 7/21/11 1:04 pm
I am a very clean person. I thought I was the only one to deal with this problem. I've had them for years and can't afford to hire a professional to get rid of them. I get rid of them and they come back again after a few months. I have used the room foggers, sprays, those hanging fly strips to catch them when they fly around. I got rid of all the boxed food in my cabinets and that cost me a lot of money. I got rid of my dried spices because they get in there too. They are so tiny in your spices that you have to pour the spice in your hand to actually see them. They get into your food, as you have seen. I think they are around the baseboards of your room. They hide between papers I have in my filing cabinet. I don't know who the hell they get into these places. I'm trying to get rid of them as we speak.They get into your clothes and lay the larvae and you go to put something on and you'll see the little cocoons on your clothes. I don't know if they chew your clothes but it's just disgusting to have them in the first place. There is no where they won't hid! So be aware all the time. I look into everything before I put it in my mouth or on my body.

...I had to be out of town during the winter and left my house unheated. When I come back, they are gone for a long time until my neighbor who I am friends with starts coming back up to my house because she had them downstairs also from leaving the apartment doors open. They would fly from apartment to apartment. They are terrible! Get those hanging flu traps, and use a defogger. If your lucky you don't have a downstairs neighbor that has them too. I don't know where they came. If you still have them during the winter. Close your house down for about two weeks and freeze the little devils out. If you find a solution, please let me know. Good Luck!

Katie K.
on 7/21/11 1:20 pm - Grand Haven, MI
DS on 05/23/11 with
yes.... we had them in our old house and when we moved nothing from that kitchen came with us that could not be washed in the dishwasher.  Nothing we did would get rid of them.. they nest in the cracks between shelving, in the folds between cardboard tops on boxes and bags of flour. They get into closed sealed bags and jars and nest there too... food thrown out.. bleach all surfaces, pull out shelving and wash..  Once they are in.... they are there.. very hard to get rid of... just my two cents..  We have not seen a single one now that we are in the new house and did not transfer any product from the old to the new.
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on 9/11/13 1:05 pm

Oh Yuck!  I just came home from a 3 week trip and those things / tiny worms and moths are all over my pantry and ceiling.  I also have these other areas on the edges of the ceiling that look like they might be nests.  I tried vaccuuming them and they wouldn't come off.  I wonder if Raid would work??

on 9/21/09 9:48 pm
Revision on 10/22/07 with
Thanks Everyone..

I tossed all opened food in the trash. Dropped off all
unopened packages of food to the local Shoprite, they
donate this food to the needy. This food was probable
OK but I didn't want to take any chances when
I restock my cupboards and spend all that money on

possible re-infestation.

I bought the traps for the moths, emptied out every

cabinet, CLEANED...tonight I'm gonna BOMB the

Kitchen...This is overkill but It will make me feel
better...BUGS give me the WILLIES 
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5'8"  SW 246 - GW 150 - LW 143 - CW-148
Follow Your Dreams.... & Hold On To Them !!  
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