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Tarragon
Member Since: 07/18/11
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I heard of a DS patient I know *****cently has a complication 6 years after the surgery.  The way it was described to me, her stomach would stay full for too long, and examination showed that her pyloric valve was dead.  They had to remove it and convert her surgery to a gastric bypass.  Apparently this is a known possible complication from VSG surgery. 

That's ALL I know about it, which is next to nothing.  Has anyone else heard of this?  What's it called?  What causes it?
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Amy Farrah Fowler
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Member Since: 01/08/08
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The only thing I've heard of that is similar, is the pyloric valve dieing after disuse after RNY. I've heard of people having the RNY reversed, and when they go to put things back together, the pylorus has atrophied, but that's all I've heard of.

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Renfairewench
Member Since: 03/13/09
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That was one of (many) my post op complication. My pyloric valve had atrophied from 10 years of non use. During the second operation I had they did scope and stretch it to make it work. It did, but very very sluggishly and not very effectively.
 

                   HW (pre RNY) 430 HW (pre DS) 302 / SW 288 /
                          Lowest weight 157 / CW 161
GW 150
                "I'm just one stomach flu away from my goal weight"
                                       
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maryc543
Duodenal Switch (11/14/06)
Member Since: 04/26/04
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I've never heard of this......   is the malfunctioning pyloric related directly to the surgery, or advanced age, or other complications?   I'll try looking it up when I get home....   Mary C

DS Part 1 (VSG) 11/14/06     DS Part 2   12/18/07
HW 430  SW  400   CW  183  GW 200   Blog: lifeisgood-mc.blogspot.com
 

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Tarragon
Member Since: 07/18/11
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Supposedly it's a rare but known complication of VSG and of course the VSG part of DS. I have never heard of it, either. I am trying to get in touch with her directly to find out more--all I have heard so far is second-hand info. For all I know, it might have nothing to do with VSG.
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Krazydoglady
FL
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It's most commonly a complication of diabetes.  VSG is now being used to treat Gastroparesis in Diabetics. They did a study at Columbia University. 
 
Other than on the Gastroparesis sites, I've never seen it listed as a complication to VSG. It  must be REALLY rare if it is. It was not included in the informed consent I signed for my surgery or in any of the mandatory training we were required to go through pre-op for my surgeon (in class, on-line, and handlouts). 

One of the 'complications' more often listed for VSG is rapid emptying despite the pyloric valve-- the opposite of Gastroparesis  -- which leads to reactive hypoglycemia.  I'd have to find the reference, but the suggestion is that the higher positive pressure in the sleeved stomach pushes food through the pyloric valve faster than normal (but  not at the emptying rate of say a RNY. One study I read suggeted 17% of VSG's go through it. 
 (32 lbs lost Pre-op) HW: 291, SW: 259, GW: 121         
Month 1: 21.9, Month 2: 12.5, Month 3: 12.8, Month 4: 11.2, Month 5: 11.4, Month 6: 9.2, Month 7: 11.2, Month 8: 10.6, Month 9: 7.6, Month 10: 6, Month 11: 7.4, Month 12:  4.6
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Valerie G.
"The OG", OH
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 Since the plyoric valve is left functioning naturally, I'd like to know how a DS or VSG stomach could affect it?  I'd put it up as something that would have  happened if the whole stomach were left intact, too.

Valerie
1 year to lose the weight - 5 years maintaining it with the DS
There is room on this earth for all of God's creatures..next to the mashed potatoes
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Tarragon
Member Since: 07/18/11
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I agree, I don't see how this can be a complication of the surgery, especially six years after having it done.  I am trying to contact her directly.  If I don't get a response via email I'll just have to go to one of the meetings and ask her.
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Tarragon
Member Since: 07/18/11
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OK, she got gastroparesis, which gastrectomy is a risk factor for:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001342/

She had a pyloroplasty to try to relive it, the pyloroplasty failed, and she ended up having her entire stomach removed. She did not get a conversion to gastric bypass as I had heard.

I believe that gastroparesis is a very rare complication of this surgery, as I've never heard of it and neither, apparently, have other more knowledgabpe people here.
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Fade2Pink
Salt Lake City, UT
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I am aware of a couple of DS patients who have had gastroperesis.  I do believe it is very rare, but obviously not unheard of..
Duodenal Switch 4/29/09
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 I've heard of one that had that after being switched from RNY to DS, her pyloric valve had atrophed and she had leaks. So she ended up having her stomach and pyloric valve removed.

Someone else had the DS done by a surgeon (not the greatest in mho) and she also had to have her stomach with the pyloric valve removed with a 2nd surgery by a different doctor.

So it can happen, but it wouldn't have anything to do with the VSG itself. 

Any time you mess with the stomach you can have side effects that are not very pleasant.
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Renfairewench
Member Since: 03/13/09
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Ummm...top paragraph..
That would be me.

Yes, it's true. I had an RNY in 1999 and a revision to DS in 2009. I had a lot of issues following my revision. I had a second operation on my stomach just 48 hours after the revision. This lead to a gastric leak, internal and external fistulas. Long story short I ended up with lots of strictures, pyloric atrophy, gastric leak and more (I'd be more than happy to share my story with you.)  In the end in order to get me healed I did lose all but about 3-5% of my stomach (basically I had a near total gastrectomy), and my pylorus. The strictures were so bad that they could not stretch them for fear of damage to them and further damage to my stomach. I also had a lot of strictures (adhesions) which were causing reduced blood flow the the lower part of my stomach. Had I not had it removed eventually it would have gone necrotic.

I don't really have a "pouch". I have a bit of stomach, with a smallish opening at the intestinal junction. I've been known to eat too fast and block it up, causing me pain and likely causing me to hurl. Not pleasant, but hurling does relieve the discomfort and pain.

Things can happen and do. As a revision and even as a virgin DSer one must consider the costs.

Maddie
 

                   HW (pre RNY) 430 HW (pre DS) 302 / SW 288 /
                          Lowest weight 157 / CW 161
GW 150
                "I'm just one stomach flu away from my goal weight"
                                       
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Jennifer D.
Duodenal Switch (08/24/11)
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Very interesting!! I had a conversion from RNY to DS after 10 years and my pyloric valve still functioned. I had never heard of this happening with VSG. I had also never heard of the vagus nerve before researching this surgery and now it's the culprit of so many odd occurances.
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