- HEALTH TRACKER
It is still here. And I'm glad. No one has to make a contribution if they don't want to.
As for me? I used to love to read Georgina's posts and see all the photos of her beautiful DS baby. She is a very caring and lovely person and I was happy to do what I could to help her sister's children.
Steak (rib eye)
"Protein salad" tiny bit of lettuce loaded with cheese, meat, and real fat ranch
Greek yogurt sweetened with splenda and SF jelly
Fried cheese with spenda and SF syrup
Atkins meals have just come out. Man I wish they had those when I was loosing. But they are a new staple here.
Protein bars and shakes
Chicken fingers, fried chicken, KFC Double down. (makes about 4 meals early out, now I can eat a whole one)
No carb burgers (lettuce wraps)
I don't know. I never got bored. The weight just flew off.
Oh I ate one very very dark chocolate bar a week. It has very few carbs the darker the chocolate you get.
Hope this helps.
I see you got 37 responses to this question. I am going to have to look (when I have time) to see if all 37 people told you the same thing.
I still use Centrum Chewables (two a day) as my back-up for all my other vites I take. I also like chewable Vitamin C so I use that. It is like a treat that I take after I have downed my handful of other vites.
By one month out I was taking everything VitaLady recommended. She didn't have a starter pack then. I don't think I would have used it anyway.
I got full labs at 3 months and started the tweaking process then. The first year I got labs quarterly and am getting them twice a year forever. At 2 1/2 years out I had to tweak. I think it is just part of the journey.
I am having a BLAST doing yard work. Planting, putting down pine straw, pruning shrubs. I never could enjoy this before I lost the weight.
I also walked in a one mile Mother/Daughter walk for Women's Health on Saturday. BOTH my girls walked with me and it turned out to be a two mile walk. False advertising lol.
So those are a couple of things I could not have done pre-DS.
I wouldn't have been dissappointed. I would have been furious. Is this surgeon known for doing the DS or was he planning to do a sleeve all along and just didn't tell you?
I'm so sorry this happened to you. But maybe your situation can be a warning to others. TALK to your surgeon in depth about your demand to have a DS. Study your surgeon's reputation. Talk to others who used your surgeon. Make sure your surgeon knows you ONLY want a full DS.
Decrease your fat and carbs and yes, I took Immodium.
Pretty soon you'll be asking about the opposite problem!
Start with a long round of Flagyl. Then make sure you've cut any possible offenders out of your diet. It really is doable, finding what causes yours and controlling it. I know it is horrible now, but it can get much better.
For me, it takes Flagyl if I ever get really out of sinc, then I eat a lot of yogurt and stay away from gluten. That pretty much keeps my gas tolerable. I still have some, but EVERYBODY has some.
Gina and Kayla,
I see an endo for thyroid nodules and share my labs with him. He SWEARS that PTH is meaningless if the Calcium is normal. I have told him that I understood that a high PTH may mean that Calcium is being leeched from the bones and he vehemently argues that that is patently untrue and he is tired of GPs sending him patients with normal calcium and high PTH.
Can you direct me to some literature or studies that discuss the relationship between Calcium, PTH and D?
And also can you find anyting on Calcium supplementation in normies who have osteopenia via dexa scan? My bf has had two broken bones in 2 years and his dexa scan showed osteopenia. His GP told him to take "one Calcium a day." (not even one dose, but one pill) and did not order ANY labs. He said that too much calcium supplemetation can cause heart problems? WTF??? I'm waiting for the next broken bone. He's only 52 years old.
I'm sorry you had that experience. I'm not sure she's well.
But nevertheless not a way to run a business or speak with a customer.
I follow her plan but get my advice from Major Mom (Gina). You might ask her if she will help you. She has always been there to help me. With every labs she advises me as I have no one else who can.
Meth is the hardest drug to quit I've been told. You have to, for your life.
Find a rehab and go for as long as they will keep you. Then ask for a half/way house. Go to NA EVERY DAY.
I know what it takes to get well and it is a full time job for a long time.
I'm sure that one day you will be free of your addiction and will be ready for the next part of your life journey. But today the first step is getting into rehab.
Best of luck to you. I know you can do it.
I use the Atkins high protein bars. Some of them are almost no protein so you have to label read. I think the lowest I will go is 15. I try to keep them to one a day.
I like that they are right at hand at my local Walmart. I don't like how expensive they are!! But I pay it.
If you tell us who your surgeon is maybe his other patients will see this and let you know his diet progression. There are HUGE differences between surgeons and most people aren't going to tell you to stray from that plan.
But at 5 days it was a full time job to get enough fluids in and if I got 15 grams of protein it was a good day. I stayed far far away from sugar and carbs (milk) and stuck to clear fluids that had some protein in it if possible.
The vitamins are not negotiable. You will have to take them for life. Most surgeons and their staff do not know what vitamins we need or even how to interpret labs. They probably won't order all the labs you need as well. So that means you have to be able to work around that and be very creative and persistent. Your health depends on it.
You need to start vitamins BEFORE your labs show you are deficient. It is VERY hard to bring up deficient labs. The right thing to do is to start VitaLady's plan, either pre-packaged or individual bottles as soon as you can and tweak when you get your labs. I got labs every 3 months for the first year and now get them twice a year. It is critical that you find a lab that knows what they are doing. I've been to labs that were clueless and took 2 hours to draw my labs because they had to look up how to do most of them. Hospital labs have been very competent in my experience.
The way you eat will change for life. If you go back to a high carb diet you WILL gain weight. Start now to get recipes for low carb meals. Some foods may cause you severe bloating/gas and other problems. Don't be surprised. Don't try new things away from home!!
You probably can't eat too much protein. If you don't eat enough fat you may get constipated. There are lots of ideas about how to manage constipation because unmanaged it can lead to anal fissures which hurt like HELL and are VERY hard to heal. Too much diahreah may cause them too.
A gallon of water a day. This will help with constipation too. And it is so easy to get dehydrated with the DS. And that can make you feel like crap. I am constantly drinking water ALL day long. I have a bottle of water with me every waking moment. I sneak it in to movies, church, etc...
Bone density. If you don't get enough Calcium, Magnesium Citrate, and Vitamin D you will loose calcium from your bones. Your body will not let you become calcium deficient even if it means making your bones so brittle that you can break them very easily. Get a pre-op bone density scan (it is like a simple exray) and then at least yearly after that. A lot of us take Calcium every couple of hours throughout the day to prevent Osteoporosis. You don't want things to get to the point that you have to take a drug like Fosomax. Be diligent about all your vitamins, water, protein and you will do great. If you think your surgeons plan is sufficient your labs will tank and your bone density among other health problems will happen sooner rather than later.
On this forum Major Mom (Gina) is excellent at providing advice if you post or email to her your lab results and your supplement regimine. VitaLady herself can also advise you.
So those are some of the down side to having the DS. It is not all puppies and rainbows. But if you want to loose the weight AND keep it off it is the best surgery available today.
Getting rid of co-morbids (high blood pressure, high cholsesterol, diabetes, etc...) is certainly worth taking a few handfuls of vitamins every day. And living life THIN is the most amazing thing I've ever experienced.
I love my DS and my only regret is the decades I lived obese.
Hope this is helpful
My iron related labs for your comments:
Total iron binding 435 (flagged as high)
Iron sat 34
Is high iron binding bad or okay?
And I take NO iron supplements. I don't understand why my iron labs are ok with no iron supplement and other people are so anemic who TAKE iron.
You are pregnant? And they didn't refer you to a hematologist? Do you have a high risk OB? Now I am really worried.
Good for posting your labs but you also need to post exactly what your supplement schedule is like so the lab experts will know where to start.
Also I think it cut off and didn't show all your labs.
Hunger came back with a vengence. For the first 18 months (after recouperation) I ate constantly. I took bags of food (a cold bag and a not cold bag) with me with cold water, everytime I left the house. Even if I was planning a 30 minute trip or even if I was going out to eat.
When I went out to eat by the time I got back to the car I was eating AGAIN.
The trick is WHAT you eat, not how much or how often.
Now at 3.5 years out I do not eat often any longer. Sometimes I get hungry, sometimes not. Sometimes I crave sugar and I eat it and suffer the consequences, sometimes I crave it and don't eat it and sometimes I don't crave it.
Everyone is different. But during your weight loss phase if you remain true to very low carb and never letting yourself get dehydrated or hungry the weight will come off. I think it is magic. The more I ate the more the weight kept coming off. I think the nearly constant eating (of protein) kept my metabolism racing for a long time.
We used to post lists of protein foods that we could pack and carry easily. There are tons of them to choose from so you never have to choose a carb. Protein supplementing is really important in my opinion during the weight loss phase. It is harder to get enough protein in food during the first year than you think.
What cream cheese pancake recipe are you using? I do a cream cheese/egg recipe called "Oopsie bread" that I cook in little puffs and eat with butter, splenda and cinamon. Sort of a take off funnel cake or pastry puffs. The recipe calls for puttinig them in ziplock bags overnight and that then they have the consistency of a burger bun but I haven't tried that.
I was told to loose 20 lbs which I did by doing Atkins. How ironic. How many days of liquid diet do you have to do?
I was a relative light weight with a high weight of 262 at 5'8" but I had chronic pain. I had many MRIs, lots of drugs, Physical Therapy. It was all due to the weight stressing my joints. And I barely did anything because it always hurt.
Now? I do more in one hour than I could do in a month. The DS took YEARS off of me. No more pain, or drugs for pain.
It is really amazing the difference.
How many pills will you be taking in 30 or 50 years if you remain obese? And the "pills" you will be taking then will not be vitamins.
I happily traded a future of meds for:
high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, arthritis, chronic pain, depression, sleep apnea, heart disease, renal failure etc...
for a handful of vitamins several times a day.
I got the DS to save my life. The benefits that came with that? Unmeasurable.
Oh my god. Who told you to WAIT until you are deficient in the fat soluble vitamins BEFORE you start taking them? You have no idea how hard it is going to be for you to bring them up when it would have been a LOT easier to keep them up or raise them from where you started.
That was bad advice that you took.
Some don't take any? Let's hope not.
I take DRY A, D, E and K1 and K2
Calcium, Magnesium Citrate, Potassium 6-7 doses a day
I also take Vitamin C and a Multi vitamin (like Centrum)
I take B12 and a B Complex.
That's why my memory has on hand. There is probably somehting I forgot.
And you MUST get enought protein for without enough protein your body can't process the vitamins. Most people supplement protein with shakes or protein coffees.