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Throwing up after lap band surgery

suegee936
on 6/3/12 2:14 pm - PA
Help..............I was banded in May 11'.  There are times when I eat too much or get the guilty feeling for eating something I shouldn't have and think "If I could just throw up I would feel better."  Unlike so many other posts I have read where people throw up after having lap band surgery, I try to make myself throw up sometimes just to feel more comfortable but I can't seem to throw up.  I feel miserable and just want to get the food out but can't throw up.  It almost feels like the band is actually stopping the throwing up.  Any suggestions on how to make throwing up easier?  I'm not bullimic and don't feel this way everyday but during times I do, I just wish I could throw up to feel better.
Hislady
on 6/3/12 2:54 pm - Vancouver, WA
That is the band and your body's way of telling you to STOP IT, this is how you learn not to over eat. Myself I've never been able to throw up since I was banded even tho a few times I prayed I could. So instead of figuring out how to throw up, figure out how to not eat too much or too fast then you will feel better all the time. Anytime you throw up you are stressing your band and this isn't a good thing. Try eating off a small plate, with a pre-measured amount, cut up tiny and eat slowly, this will help you slow down.
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MindyNTexas
on 6/3/12 3:01 pm
I was banded in 07 , I hate to tell you this , but this never goes away , NEVER gets better and gets much worse... this is band life . It does not get better. This early out of surgery you should not be throwing up anyway , but the fact that you are is not a good sign.
Im not trying ot be mean , however I wish someone would hvae told me this is how it was gonig to be when i had my  band BEFORE I had my band.
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c_cubed
on 6/3/12 3:10 pm
First of all-- you're just a little over 3 weeks post-op.  I was on ALL liquids the first 3 weeks post -op.  After that, I was on mushy, soft, foods for 3 months.  So I have to ask--what are you eating?  If you're eating dense proteins and "normal foods" then you're simply over eating.  You're eating too much, too quickly. 

You probably have very little or no saline in your band HOWEVER, your stomach still has an object wrapped around it, so you probably are feeling a tad bit of restriction.

FOLLOW the guidelines.  If you follow the guidelines and eat slowly and chew thoroughly, you'll be OK, but the band is not everyone.  It's going to require that you have self control and self discipline when you're eating. 

Good luck!
SueBee01
on 6/3/12 5:32 pm - Orange Park, FL
Lap Band on 01/30/12
I agree with Hislady. You need to really pay attention to what you are eating, how much you are eating and how quickly you eat and how well you chew your food up. How did you do through the Janie stage? You should only be eating when you are hungry now too. I am a little over 4 months out and some days only eating two meals and under 500 calories. I still do not get hungry. Listen to your body instead of your brain. It is a very difficult change to make after so many years of overeating. I struggled with it for the first three months. I was in the habit of eating three meals at certain times and a couple snacks each day.

You can do it. It takes discipline, but once your mind and body get used to it you will not have problems keeping up with the changes.

Use MyFitnessPal.com to log everything you eat so you can really see what you are doing.

Good luck! We are here for you!
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c_cubed
on 6/3/12 5:47 pm
Nicely said!

In fact, tonight, at about 8 months post-op, we went to a steakhouse.  I ordered the small fillet...you know I STILL cut the first piece off as I would have PRIOR to surgery.  I literally had to stop and stare at that piece of steak on my fork and thought "There is no way that's going down and going to stay in my stomach--no matter how much I chew!"  I re-grouped my thoughts and decided that I would have to thinly slice each piece of steak that I was going to eat.

It's hard to explain, but it really does come down to TRAINING yourself how to eat in a totally different way.

Tiny, tiny bites, very, very slowly--be it a piece of steak or piece of broccoli or bite of a baked potato.

It's hard.  And it's easy to "forget" the way you need to eat.

SueBee01
on 6/3/12 6:02 pm - Orange Park, FL
Lap Band on 01/30/12
You are absolutely right! I eat out way to many times and I have learned to look up my food online before I order or I ask for a nutrition menu. I have also learned to make sure that I am loving what I eat. I don't get much of it so I am sure that I am satisfied. I send way more things back to the kitchen because I don't settle anymore. They will make it the way I want it! I have become a food *****! But I am happy!
 Sue

            
suegee936
on 6/3/12 6:47 pm - PA
Let me start by saying that I have lost over 70  lbs with this whole process.  I mentioned that I am not bullimic nor was I previous to the surgery.   If you are that disciplined that you never overeat to the point you feel miserable, kudos to you......not every person is perfect and can be that disciplined.  I am not worried at all about band slippage because it isn't that often nor do I feel that I am going to be a complication stat.  Let me also state I sure in heck wouldn't have gone through all of this for the mere experience of being able to throw up easier to lose weight.  Some people can be so judgemental.  If you didn't have an answer for the question I was asking, I really didn't need your response.  And yes, after losing the amount of weight I have and continue to lose, I do believe I have realized how your eating habits must change and I know all about the "tiny" hole my food has to go through.  Thanks so much for the warning................NOT.......you completely took what I was asking and twisted it.  As for the band and vomiting not mixing, maybe you should check the statistics of people with the lap band.  Many throw up on a regular basis with the band.  Is it healthy?  No, but then again it is something they have to learn to live with because of the band.  The band can actually cause vomiting for people that have it.  I read about it constantly.  I have 6 cc in my band and have done great.  I was simply asking IF or WHEN I do have those times I eat too much to the point I feel miserable, what can I do.  I have found that I can be eating and be fine and all of a sudden it feels like a rock just dropped into my stomach.  Does that mean I'm not following the diet?  No, it is just the way my body reacts and after over a year post op I am trying to learn before hand how much to eat before that happens.  Some people purposely eat too much so they can throw up, that is not the case.  You also might want to consider some compassion towards people who are bullimic or anorexic because it is a disease.  You seemed quick to add me into that category.  My heart aches for them and what they are doing to their bodies.  I certainly don't judge them.................
suegee936
on 6/3/12 6:52 pm - PA
PS - this post was directed to Nana.
NanaB.
on 6/4/12 1:37 am
Sorry if you feel I am being judgmental...I am being honest and TRUTHFUL...I don't know if you are a bulimic or not, only you know that, I was just trying to let you know the consequences and anyone else reading this thread of what WILL happen if someone vomit with the band.

Also lap banders can no longer vomit from the lower stomach and it is not gross nasty vomiting with acid like pre op. Bansters barf is called Productive Burping, because all food goes in the upper pouch initially and if you get food stuck it comes right back up undigested and not real vomiting.

Here are some tips to avoid vomiting....

1. For starters if your band is too tight  you WILL vomit more often regardless of how you chew. You may need to get a small amount of saline removed

2. Chew your food to mush and wait until it goes down, avoid thick bread, rice and bananas when your band is tightly restricted.

3. Make sure you are hydrated, your food will go down easier if you constantly drink room temperature water prior to a meal.

4.Listen to you body and signals of being full, they can be a hiccup, sigh,burp or runny nose, these are your signs to stop eating, the band will never stop you , but help you pull back from the table, if you continually eat too much to the point of getting food stuck or if you continually eat too fast, this cause issues.

Everyone WILL get stuck on occasion with the band no one is perfect and we all make mistakes, I've gotten food stuck plenty of times, but it is not every single day and I rarely vomit. Again, like I mentioned before PBing and getting food stuck should be a rare mistake not an every day several times a day occurrence, I am here to give you advice, not to sugar coat or lie to you, I am hear to help...remember I've had my band almost 7 years and I've seen and heard it all.
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Stephanie M.
on 6/4/12 12:03 pm
 "Also lap banders can no longer vomit from the lower stomach and it is not gross nasty vomiting with acid like pre op. Bansters barf is called Productive Burping, because all food goes in the upper pouch initially and if you get food stuck it comes right back up undigested and not real vomiting."

This is soooo incorrect.  I caught a stomach virus last September and I did indeed vomit from the bottom of my stomach for about 18 hours.  I barfed up bile and all kinds of sh*t and my PA told me that stuff comes from below the pylorus...

I was so scared that the illness had caused damage and relieved it had not, as was shown when i went in for a ugi.  The only consequence of the whole thing is that my gall bladder got fired up and I had to have it removed a month later.  


 

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NanaB.
on 6/4/12 12:18 pm, edited 6/4/12 12:21 pm
 Clarification I said PBing and Not vomiting too different things ..I also vomite from Lowe stomach when I had hernia. Please read my posts carefully. Sent from iPhone sorry typos.  Also for Me when I I'll it still was not acid vomit .  I have only vomited twice in 7 years and none were acid vomit for me more like baby spitup FOR ME.
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Stephanie M.
on 6/4/12 1:00 pm
 I actually cut and pasted from your post...no misread.

 

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c_cubed
on 6/4/12 5:40 am
@sugegee, Your situation is very perplexing to me. You've been banded for 3 weeks and 3 days and you have 6 cc in your band? There is not a decent surgeon on the planet that would have given you a fill already. I get there may be some residual saline in your band, when it was placed, but certainly NOT 6cc. As a comparison, after my last fill a few weeks ago, I'm only at a total of 5cc.So in order for me (and others) to really understand your situation, could you tell me if you've had a fill? When? What are you eating?

By the Way--congrats on your 70 lbs weight loss!!

And please understand that I am not being judgmental, but your situation is concerning.
NanaB.
on 6/4/12 5:43 am
@Hey C --- Hopefully I am not wrong but it appears that she was banded May 2011 and not May 11...if she was banded only a few weeks ago...yes her surgeon license should be revoked...lol...
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c_cubed
on 6/4/12 5:49 am
Ohhhhh yeah.  That would make more sense! 

HAHAHAHA my bad
minnie_cat
on 6/4/12 1:19 pm
@suegee, If I feel full, which for me feels like I have food backed up to the bottom of my throat, I find walking helps to move things through a bit faster. I've learned in the past few months and haven't had that issue (thankfully).

I've seen some post on here they walk with their arms up as well. I asked the nurse if I should drink water and she said no, that can make it worse and lead to vomitting. I have seen some here comment sipping a warm tea or drink helps.

Best of luck.
    
MindyNTexas
on 6/4/12 6:57 am
On June 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM Pacific Time, suegee936 wrote:
Let me start by saying that I have lost over 70  lbs with this whole process.  I mentioned that I am not bullimic nor was I previous to the surgery.   If you are that disciplined that you never overeat to the point you feel miserable, kudos to you......not every person is perfect and can be that disciplined.  I am not worried at all about band slippage because it isn't that often nor do I feel that I am going to be a complication stat.  Let me also state I sure in heck wouldn't have gone through all of this for the mere experience of being able to throw up easier to lose weight.  Some people can be so judgemental.  If you didn't have an answer for the question I was asking, I really didn't need your response.  And yes, after losing the amount of weight I have and continue to lose, I do believe I have realized how your eating habits must change and I know all about the "tiny" hole my food has to go through.  Thanks so much for the warning................NOT.......you completely took what I was asking and twisted it.  As for the band and vomiting not mixing, maybe you should check the statistics of people with the lap band.  Many throw up on a regular basis with the band.  Is it healthy?  No, but then again it is something they have to learn to live with because of the band.  The band can actually cause vomiting for people that have it.  I read about it constantly.  I have 6 cc in my band and have done great.  I was simply asking IF or WHEN I do have those times I eat too much to the point I feel miserable, what can I do.  I have found that I can be eating and be fine and all of a sudden it feels like a rock just dropped into my stomach.  Does that mean I'm not following the diet?  No, it is just the way my body reacts and after over a year post op I am trying to learn before hand how much to eat before that happens.  Some people purposely eat too much so they can throw up, that is not the case.  You also might want to consider some compassion towards people who are bullimic or anorexic because it is a disease.  You seemed quick to add me into that category.  My heart aches for them and what they are doing to their bodies.  I certainly don't judge them.................
Let me ask you this . were you TOLD vomitting would be a part of yoru every day life when you got the band ? Am I bulemic now ? If someone who throws up on a near daily baisis because of what tehy eat due to a band is bulemic then i guess so . But the BAND caused that nothing else I certainly was not before hand.
You said "  I have found that I can be eating and be fine and all of a sudden it feels like a rock just dropped into my stomach.  Does that mean I'm not following the diet?  No, it is just the way my body reacts and after over a year post op I am trying to learn before hand how much to eat before that happens."
I am here to tell you that never changes, that " one too much feeling" comes up all of a sudden then you throw up .. that throwing up or Productive bupring " people like to call it WILL SLIP a band ! 
I understand your asking for help when this happens .. What can you posisbly do ? Some people use pineapple juice or papaya enymes they never worked for me though .
you might try that. I just ask this .  you do not be so naive that think that band slipps are not the norm and that throwing up is suppose to happen with the band, NEITHER is true !

See my whole band ordeal on my blog Trying to Stay Skinny in Texas
Read the good , the bad , the ugly and the truth about my lap band journey !
NanaB.
on 6/4/12 8:08 am

I guess I missed some of your post and I am actually alarmed by your comments:

You mentioned:

I am not worried at all about band slippage because it isn't that often nor do I feel that I am going to be a complication stat. 

Well...if you are not worried about band slippage due to frequent vomiting you are more naive than I thought. DO you know the lap band has about a 40 percent complication rate? And of that 40 percent 30 percent are from lap band slippage DUE TO FREQUENT VOMITING..IT'S REAL AND HAPPENS TO A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE....My own lap band almost slipped 5 years ago when I was accidentally filled too tight and drove to Florida on vacation and my vacation was a nightmare because I spent most of the time slimming, with reflux and frothing at the mouth...when I finally got home to see my surgeon a week later, my pouch was dilated and about to slip...my band was saved because I got immediate help...also I had another incident where I experienced nightly reflux and my band almost slipped again...it was saved again by immediately getting saline removed....and trust me I am very careful with my band and don't abuse it....SO if you think you are immune to band slips ...let's see how well you do in about 1-2 more years of as you say...of vomiting to get rid of food being stuck frequently.


You also mentioned
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Many throw up on a regular basis with the band.  Is it healthy?  No, but then again it is something they have to learn to live with because of the band.  The band can actually cause vomiting for people that have it.  I read about it constantly.  I have 6 cc in my band and have done great. ---

Hmm..everyone that I've known over the years that PB'd several times a day/week no longer have a band....so I guess your friends are early out and NOT over 5 years post op.

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MARIA F.
on 6/3/12 3:19 pm - Athens, GA

First of all: if you have the band and never got the "full sooner, full longer" part as has happend with many of us, it is HARD to limit what you eat. It's just like BEFORE you got the band.

Second of all: DON'T BE TRYING TO THROW UP! It's not healthy. Throwing up is your body doing what it needs to do when the food can not be processed. Don't try to initiate this.

Now my take on what you are saying is different from Mindy's. From Mindy's band experience I think she would get sick when she ate and felt the need to throw up and sometimes couldnt. I think she thinks you are experiencing the same thing.

My interpretation of what you have said is that it is psychological (and correct me if I am wrong!). That you fell guilty b/c you have eatten more than you should have and that b/c of that you want to throw it up.

The band doesn not work for many ppl. It doesn't seem to be working for you, but I really think you need to talk to someone about these psychological issues that you are having. I would suggest you speak to a psychologist that deals with eating disorders. I would also suggest you speak to you Dr. about your band issues. Is revision a possibility? If so, I would still suggest the counceling first.

Good luck!

 

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