Question regarding giving B12 shots self administered?

(deactivated member)
on 5/5/13 11:52 am - Toronto, Canada
RNY on 04/04/13

OK so question for those who self administer their B12 shots?

I cant stand the liquid under the tongue and half the time, I forget....

I dont need another pill...so i bought myself the 1000mcg Injection serum.

I an super nervous as anyone would be giving themselves a needle, but questions regarding the actual needle..

My Drug store does not sell em....its says intramuscular or deep subcutanous...

What size needles do you use?  where to buy and where to inject yourself?!

1ml = 1000mcg.....so 1 x 10ml vile should last 10 months!!!  not bad for a 9.00 investment!

THanks!

 

walshsurvey
on 5/5/13 12:21 pm - Ottawa, Canada

My needle is tiny. I think 1ml. I inject it into my leg. It is important to open the needle up (draw in air) and then put it in the bottle and insert the air and then take out the liquid. Otherwise it is under pressure and it will hurt. I softly jab it into my leg. If it sort of bounces I pick another spot, if it stings a bit I pick another spot. Mostly it is completely painless. I bleed a bit and one time I had a pink spot around the injection site (the b12 is a pink colour). It went away pretty quickly. I do it once a month and I feel much better. I would love to be able to do this with all my vitamins and minerals as I have low absorption (even before the surgery) but alas I don't know of any others that can be injected this way.

Referral sent April 2009, Orientation March 2011, 1st Appt with NUT Dec 2011, 2nd Appt with NUT March 2012, Gastroenterologist June 2012, zzzz fell asleep waiting for movement zzzzz, 3rd meeting with NUT May 2013, ....???

    
OKNEE FE + 3
on 5/5/13 12:21 pm
Not sure where you live but visit s medical supply store. Some place that sells ostomy supplies etc. They will be able to tell you what size you need. If your doctor has a nurse in the office ask if you could get a lesson on self injection.

As a precaution make sure you get your B12 levels checked. I have noticed in my patients high B12 leads the condition of Iron deficiency in absence of anemia. B12 converts Iron to HGB so your CBC will show a normal to high HGB, MCV 90-105 yet you will still have chronic fatigue, irritability, difficulty concentrating and face the trial of getting you physician to order Iron panels and ferritin levels

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OKNEE FE + 3
on 5/5/13 12:27 pm
just saw your in Toronto try Stallman medical supply on Bathurst.

I would be more than happy to give you a tutorial on self injection. We don't recommend injecting air(1986) into a multimode vial anymore, especially one that you will be hanging onto for 10 months, as the air is a source for bacterial contamination.

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(deactivated member)
on 5/5/13 12:33 pm - Toronto, Canada
RNY on 04/04/13

ok will do...not sure what all that means but i will try calling Stallman's

OKNEE FE + 3
on 5/5/13 12:39 pm
auto correct Starkmans

Oknee's just gotta dance
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(deactivated member)
on 5/5/13 12:34 pm - Toronto, Canada
RNY on 04/04/13

Is it STARKMANS?

I cant find stallmans

OKNEE FE + 3
on 5/5/13 12:39 pm
Yes

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Weight at the start of Optifast 378 T-1 OR Weight 352
Broke the 300 pound Barrier 13-Dec-2009 291.2lbs 01-APR-11 "onederland"
HGBA1C 5.2  d/c from the care of  my Endocrinolgist 09-JUL-10 "diabetes resolved"
10-MAR-11 Extreme Sleep Apnea (dx 2007) resolved-"b-bye CPAP won't miss ya"

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(deactivated member)
on 5/5/13 12:31 pm - Toronto, Canada
RNY on 04/04/13

thanks...But what size are you using?  we need bigger than a diabetic needle right?!

My friend is a nurse and can help out....but man o man.,....I have called over 10 drug stores now and noone carries needles....other than diabetic...never thought this would be so hard.

B12 is part of our post op regimen, so if they wanna test me they can but im not doing this because im deficient (that i know of)

Love how you can buy the serum but not the tool to adminiter it...LMAO (im in Toronto btw)

Thanks for your advice

OKNEE FE + 3
on 5/5/13 12:46 pm
Starkman's will tell you what size as it depends on how big the "patient" is.

Your nurse friend should be able to tell you I use 21 1/2 X 1

She will likely be able to explain the other diatribe as well

Sorry currently in hospital and "medicated" lol

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Broke the 300 pound Barrier 13-Dec-2009 291.2lbs 01-APR-11 "onederland"
HGBA1C 5.2  d/c from the care of  my Endocrinolgist 09-JUL-10 "diabetes resolved"
10-MAR-11 Extreme Sleep Apnea (dx 2007) resolved-"b-bye CPAP won't miss ya"

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walshsurvey
on 5/5/13 1:00 pm - Ottawa, Canada

I get my needles and b12 at walmart. I'm really surprised you can't find any at drug stores, I'm guessing you are just not asking for the correct thing. I have gotten them at two or three different places in Ottawa. The maker is BD (in New Jersey). They are in blue  packaging and are called "BD 1ml TB Syringe 25G x 5/8". From what I've read on the internets it should be intramuscular. So on a big person the needle should be 1". Mine are 5/8 of an inch, maybe suboptimal but it is working well. 

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I agree that you should have dr.'s orders before getting it but you do not need a script. 

The serum I use is cyanocobalamin injection USP 1000mcg/mL. I hear cyanocobalamin isn't as bio-available as others but it does the trick for me.

Referral sent April 2009, Orientation March 2011, 1st Appt with NUT Dec 2011, 2nd Appt with NUT March 2012, Gastroenterologist June 2012, zzzz fell asleep waiting for movement zzzzz, 3rd meeting with NUT May 2013, ....???

    
(deactivated member)
on 5/5/13 12:40 pm

Sorry I can't address your question, but I do have a question myself about the injections ...

I was of the impression that these were administered by our docs once a month -- and to that I was wonder what (if any) that cost was.

Or, does the doctor simply provide you with a prescription?

Guess what I am asking is, how did your serum?

ty!

 

 

OKNEE FE + 3
on 5/5/13 12:59 pm
You can purchase B12 over-the-counter without a prescription. I would however keep your doctor in the loop. They can tell you the appropriate dose and monitor your B12 levels

Oknee's just gotta dance
Weight at the start of Optifast 378 T-1 OR Weight 352
Broke the 300 pound Barrier 13-Dec-2009 291.2lbs 01-APR-11 "onederland"
HGBA1C 5.2  d/c from the care of  my Endocrinolgist 09-JUL-10 "diabetes resolved"
10-MAR-11 Extreme Sleep Apnea (dx 2007) resolved-"b-bye CPAP won't miss ya"

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Dar_Mab
on 5/5/13 1:08 pm - Kitchener, ON, Canada
RNY on 03/08/13

Your dr can give you the shot each month or rather his nurse. I go every month and they do it.  I am too much of a wuss to start injecting myself. Lol

    

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(deactivated member)
on 5/5/13 1:28 pm

ty for your responses ... if I do wuss out and have it done by doc/nurse, is there a cost or is it different from one medical clinic to another?

ty

 

(deactivated member)
on 5/5/13 1:37 pm

Going to reply/update my own prev post ... :)

Just got off the phone with my pharmacist ... says 10ml vial is about $5 and 20c/disposable syringe ... he'll also help me choose the right needle as well as where/how to use it ...

Having injected myself with Victoza, I can't be that much of a wuss ... the only difference here is that the B12 needs to be injected into a muscle ...

I think I'm all sorted now ... :)

ty

 

Dar_Mab
on 5/5/13 3:38 pm - Kitchener, ON, Canada
RNY on 03/08/13

No cost as it is paid for by OHIP.  Your dr writes out the prescription for b12 and you get it filled at drugstore.  So the only cost is the b12 which was $4.49.  Take it to the doc and the nurse keeps it in the fridge for monthly visit 

    

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jay_dee_767
on 5/5/13 1:56 pm - Canada

I am a PSW and my own family doctor will not let me give myself these needles, cause only a nurse can do them becasue they are not just under the skin.

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Jen1984
on 5/5/13 3:16 pm - trenton, ontario, Canada

yes my family doc also will not let me do it myself.  Once a month I visit her nurse and she does it for me right in the office.

OKNEE FE + 3
on 5/5/13 3:26 pm
and charges OHIP a fee for service it's a teachable skill

Oknee's just gotta dance
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Broke the 300 pound Barrier 13-Dec-2009 291.2lbs 01-APR-11 "onederland"
HGBA1C 5.2  d/c from the care of  my Endocrinolgist 09-JUL-10 "diabetes resolved"
10-MAR-11 Extreme Sleep Apnea (dx 2007) resolved-"b-bye CPAP won't miss ya"

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