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happyhealing
Member Since: 03/07/11
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I know we're not suppose to drink alcohol, but is it just because of a cross addiction or are there other reasons.
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Sharyn S.
Bastrop, TX
Member Since: 05/12/06
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Alcohol use/abuse is a risk factor for ulcers for ANYONE.

Sharyn, RN

RIP, MOM ~ 5/31/1944 - 5/11/2010
RIP, DADDY ~ 9/2/1934 - 1/25/2012

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happyhealing
Member Since: 03/07/11
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But the alcohol doesnt go into the stomach it goes right through us doesn't it?  Which is worse NSAIDs or Alcohol?
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Sharyn S.
Bastrop, TX
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True, BUT, alcohol is one of the few things that are absorbed directly into the stomach.  Alcholol is very irritating to the stomach lining and you REALLY don't want an ulcer in your much smaller pouch.

Sharyn, RN

RIP, MOM ~ 5/31/1944 - 5/11/2010
RIP, DADDY ~ 9/2/1934 - 1/25/2012

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happyhealing
Member Since: 03/07/11
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I didnt know you could get an ulcer in the new pouch.  Thanks for the info.
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rbb825
Suffern, NY
Member Since: 04/28/00
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why couldn't you get an ulcer in your new pouch?  It is just a smaller part of your stomach that is stapled off but it is still your stomach - it is very common for post ops to get ulcers in our pouches which is why we dont' take NSAIDS to not get ulcers in the pouch or the remnant.
  
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wvugal89
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Member Since: 11/20/11
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NSAIDS are worse but alcohol is empty calories and does nothing for you nutritionally. I have also heard that people who lose weight lose their tolerance to alcohol. I personally haven't tried it, I like the progress I am making. Though I will admit sometimes after a long day with my students a vodka tonic doesn't sound that bad!

Teri-Lynn
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JamieL846
MI
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Be careful with the alcohol. For the reasons already stated above....in addition, you have to be careful bc it goes straight to your blood stream and will hit you hard...I am a wine drinker, and will occasionally have a small glass...i have also read a study stating you also have to be careful about driving bc even if you do not feel it, RNY patients will have an elevated BAC for a longer time and be higher on less alcohol...so easier to get a DUI just off a small amount.
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happyhealing
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Believe it or not, I can actually drink the same amount as before and not be any drunker than prior to surgery.  I was just wondering, I know already about all the other stuff about cross addiction.  I wasn't addicted to food, I had a sedentary life and portion control was the issue.

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happyhealing
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Stomach Ulcers and Alcohol

Short answer: no, alcohol does not cause stomach ulcers. The acid reflux and gastritis alcohol causes may mimic stomach ulcer symptoms.

The vast majority of ulcers are caused by the H pylori bacteria. The only way to know for sure if H pylori is to blame for your ulcer is by taking an H pylori test.

While it is generally accepted that alcohol is not a cause of ulcers, it is well-established that alcohol can cause irritation and slow ulcer healing times. As a result, it is recommended that alcohol be avoided when recovering from a stomach ulcer.

Alcohol is known to cause gastroesphageal reflux disease (GERD), constipation, and other digestive disorders, but ulcers are not one of them.

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samsander
CA
Member Since: 01/22/10
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Thank you for the update.

I have also asked this question and always get warnings about "we should not drink it" and "cross-addiction"...

While these are VERY real and VERY true, I just wanted to know if OTHER than that, there any reason not to enjoy the occassional glass of red wine.

Mary SW 273   CW 155  GW 155


       
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Paula F.
Rochester Hills , MI
Member Since: 08/24/11
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I was also informed through my program that we are more prone to cirrhosis of the liver because of the way we process alcohol after surgery in addition to cross addiction, etc.  I don't think a glass here and there will kill us though.  However, I understand we become legally drunk  very fast, so have a designated driver.
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happyhealing
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I drink in the privacy of my own home so dui's aren't an issue.  I don't believe in cross addiction either.  You either have the gene's to become an alcholoic or you don't.  I've been drinking on and off for years, I can stop and have stopped at the drop of a hat and have no problems whatsoever.  If I want to have a vodka tonic everynight after work, and I've alloted for the calorie intake, then that's what I'm going to do.  I know that people on here are not going to encourage it, and they shouldn't, BUT, like everything else moderation is the key to this whole tool that we've been lucky to have.
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rbb825
Suffern, NY
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You really need to be careful with regular drinking.  You may not think it leads to ulcers or cross addictions but it happens.  Alcohol is very hard on the lining of your stomach and if you aren't taking a PPI anymore, it can do damage.  It is also very hard on your liver especially if you take any other liver toxic meds - tylenol containing meds, statins, PPI, diflucan to name a few.  Combine these with daily alcohol ingestion and you asking for liver troubles.  IF you are in the first few years with rapid weight loss or any gallbladder disease, that also adds risk to the liver.

Just be careful.  Once cirrosis sets in, it can't be reversed.
  
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Mrsstrick
IN
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Hi everyone, I am 6 yrs post op and i fell victim to cross addiction to alcohol. Its a rough road to travel, and though as you said food addiction was not a problem for you, it was seditary and portion control. Well, if you have a problem with portion control, it can lead to drinking more and more. I also suffered ulcers after surgery, but was not due to the alcohol. The longer your out, the easier it can seem to lead to those unhealthy habits. Our surgery was a tool, to help, not a cure. Good luck
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seattledeb
Member Since: 11/29/08
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 Thank you for your post.
I hope you are doing well.

I really do think the link to alcohol abuse is under researched in Rny patients.
There are so many reasons NOT to drink-particularly the first year. 
Hard on the liver (the liver is overstressed with processing all the fat that is breaking down in your body)
It's 7 calories/gm
It is an irritant to the gastric lining..of which we have less.
Some people report that it is easier to overeat after drinking.
The sugar can cause dumping in some.

I think everyone gets to make their own decisions but I do think they should be aware of the consequences.

Deb T.

    
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