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happyteacher
on 8/25/16 12:16 pm
Topic: RE: Any other Booch makers or maybe just a Kombucha fan and drink it kind of regularly?

I don't mind shipping. I will need a hot second though to read up on it to ensure everything is done correctly. PM a shipping address. You can cover shipping once it arrives if that works for you. 

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/25/16 11:56 am
Topic: RE: Any other Booch makers or maybe just a Kombucha fan and drink it kind of regularly?

Any chance you are in the Metro Detroit area?

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/25/16 11:55 am
Topic: RE: Any other Booch makers or maybe just a Kombucha fan and drink it kind of regularly?

Oh, and could you let me know about the keytone thing? I for sure would love to find a non-medicinal option. I am Ok if I am not able to fully resolve symptoms, I just need to make sure I can be productive at work. Outside of work, I never take anything.

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/25/16 11:42 am
Topic: RE: Any other Booch makers or maybe just a Kombucha fan and drink it kind of regularly?

Here is a reliable set of directions on how to brew. Bottling is a different phase- but basically is just straining, putting it in a clean bottle, adding flavor, cap and check after a day or two. The fermenting process at this point will carbonate it 

Here is a how to guide:

https://www.kombuchakamp.com/kombucha-recipe

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/25/16 11:32 am
Topic: RE: Any other Booch makers or maybe just a Kombucha fan and drink it kind of regularly?

The brand I buy is GT, and I get it from Trader Joe, Whole Foods, and health food stores. Given I usually get it at TJs the only two choices are gingerade and a cherry. Both are terrific. I prefer the ginger because it helps to settle my stomach, hubby prefers the cherry. The only flavor I have not liked so far is mango. But I realized after I drank it it was out of date.

I was blessed with findng my scoby. My husband happened to mention while checking out at Trader Joe that our new addiction was pricey, and that I tried to brew at home and it was a fail. I had ordered the scoby on amazon and it came moldy, but since I had never seen one thought it was the spots they say was ok. Anyway, turns out the cashier brewed booch. He instantly offered to give me a scoby and starter. My husband gave him my email, and two weeks later when his batch finished he was kind enough to bottle it up. I picked it up at Tjs, returned his mason jar a week later with a big ol' container with a spicket so he could switch to continous brew instead of batch brew. (Anyone thinking of trying this- Sams has the large ice tea dispenser on clearance, it is the glass jar with the stainless steel spiket and holds around 3 gallons. It is under $15 by my house!

Since I had a two week waiting period I read a bunch online. I then bought a book because I am enough of a geek to want to read far more than is needed. It has everything you need to know to start, the history of it, recipes... everything. But you can find directions online for free or I can post here if folks want. 

Kombucha Kamp sells scobys online. They are pricier than Amazon by far, but I keep reading in a ton of different sources that they are great quality with quality starter. 

Now for an offer: For anyone in the Detroit area I will have a scoby I can give you with starter. Just PM me. People mail them to one another in ziploc bags- I know it sounds gross, but in the anarobic state apparently the scoby hotel will keep it well plenty long enough to ship. If someone wants to take a chance on me shipping (knowing it would be my first attempt at doing it- I will diligently follow the directions that I have) I would be happy to send one out with starter. Another great choice is if you can find a bottle of the raw original GT kombucha, that can actually be used to grow your own scoby! 

Booch brewing is very easy, and very little time commitment.. ingredients are cheap as well. You can do a batch brew (gallon jar, once ready pull out what you bottle, leave enough starter for the next batch and return the scoby to the jar and begin again) or continuous brew. The continuous method is less work with greater output. My first attempt was in that vessel though, and I did not want to risk my scoby molding that was gifteed to me. So I did a batch brew, then used the baby scoby for the continuous brew. My second batch brew is already done and I think I can seperate out a baby scoby to share. :) 

 

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/25/16 11:18 am
Topic: RE: Any other Booch makers or maybe just a Kombucha fan and drink it kind of regularly?

I read online that for many it is an " acquired" taste- so opposite for me, total love at first sip! I started with the gingerade, and it helped settle my stomach. Maybe try different flavors, you might find one you like.

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/25/16 11:16 am
Topic: RE: Any other Booch makers or maybe just a Kombucha fan and drink it kind of regularly?

Trader Joes, Whole Foods, and health stores is where I get it- in the refridgerator section

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/25/16 11:14 am
Topic: RE: Any other Booch makers or maybe just a Kombucha fan and drink it kind of regularly?

Here is an example- this brand has raw and the other, and different flavors. https://www.amazon.com/GTs-Enlightened-Synergy-Organic-Kombu cha/dp/B00B04A79O

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/25/16 7:43 am
Topic: RE: One year Surgiversary!!

I just love the posts where folks take a moment to reflect on how far they have come and appreicate all of their new choices in life that is now possible! Congrats you!!

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/25/16 7:33 am
Topic: RE: Any other Booch makers or maybe just a Kombucha fan and drink it kind of regularly?

For those reading this who have no idea what I might be talking about, Kombucha is a fermented tea with the devotees swearing about the positive impacts on health. Booch is just a nick name. 

Anyway, I do not fall into the devotee this will cure you cancer if you just drink it camp. (Not that I don't deep down really hope that there is some merit to that!) My first bottle was literally a bucket list item- I had only heard about it and wanted to try. Love at first sip and weirdly almost like instant addiction kind of experience. I am never like that with food either even in my SMO days. So, I crave the hell out of it and have to put myself on a budget because one bottle is $3 and my hubby wants half. Then my gypsy like daughter wants to try and she needs her addiction fed too. So I have three new users here. Not to sound like a total crack pot, but I am beginning to believe some of the hippie hype- not all, but for sure some.

Here is what I noticed, and I am wondering if other drinkers out there have a similar benefit?

1, Acid reflux. OMFG what a difference. I thought at first that finally the meds were getting to a point where I could taper, so it took me a bit to connect the booch to the reduction of acid. I went from a fairly high dose twice a day and acid issues still a problem in between, to almost never taking a dose. And when I feel like I should get a dose (more to protect my esphogus lining than anything) sure enough every time I missed my normal booch schedule. I seem to do great at 10 ounces a day or even every other day. I am calling it a far better choice than my meds. (Disclaimer: my gastro doc highly encouraged me to take the smallest dose possible and as infrequent as possible so this is not against doc's orders.) My daughter's clears up too.

2. Allergies. I have had to take Singular and Centirizine daily for as long as I can remember- allergy medicine of some type daily for 30 years at least. Not now. My allergies are not completely resolved, but they are so much better I can drop the meds on most days. Now before someone thinks it might just be there are less allergens in the air (seasonal) I also have a vibration allergy. Normally without meds if I walk half a block hives will be severe enough on my legs to look like poison ivy, hands swollen and hives, etc. Even without the meds it is more controlled than with- mowing the lawn or going for a run (high impact stuff) is still not going to work, but again dropping meds and I am insanely happy.

3. Digestion- it legit seems to help with constipation. I no longer "have" to eat 35 grams of fiber, but more impressively is my daughter. That poor allergy ridden girl gets back up so bad that it is a joyous event for her to finally get things moving. She doesn't even bother reaching for colace now- just 20 ounces of booch and the next day is magic. One warning- I started brewing my own so have just entered the realm of drinking unpastuerized (more probiotics, stronger booch). Ummm... a little overkill for me on 10 ounces, so easing into it. Hubby no issue though.

4. Weight loss- I am calling BS on this claim. Doesn't seem to make a difference in either direction other than I do notice a reduction in cravings. This is true for all three of us.

5. Probiotics- now way to confirm but that was the one original claim that I did buy into. I eat yogurt daily for this reason. Can't confirm a thing though. 

6. ADHD- Now here is where I will start to sound a bit like a quack. Let me preface this with I am a elementary teacher and have had a load of experience with talking with parents about having their cherub evaluated. The ones who insist on taking their kid to the chiropractor **** me off. It just never freaking works. Their magical chamomille tea doesn't work, etc. I am also ADHD, take Adderoll as does my two daughters. Clearly I err on the side of medicine personally. But with all that said, the booch seems to for a short duration anyway lift the mental fog, racing thoughts kind of thing. Fascinating. Once I can kick up how much I brew I am really looking forward to see how this plays out when I drink it daily. If you are a parent DO NOT interpret this as ignore your doctor and teacher and get booch for your cherub! That is not what I am talking about!!

So are you seeing this when you drink too, none of it, or maybe something totally different? And sorry about the long rambly post, but given Anne here also found Booch relieved her severe GERD I just don't think it is a coincidence. If you are thinking about trying a bottle be warned there is 30 cals in it. I don't mind that one bit, but check the label. It drinks like diet soda without any of the bad diet soda crap!! You can get it at Trader Joes or Whole Foods, and at least here locally at the health food stores.

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/25/16 7:12 am
Topic: RE: 5 Weeks Post Op - NO Weight Loss

There could be something to the massage helping- getting all the fluid moving helps to get rid of some backed up fluid. I am just glad to read it is progressing in the right direction and she is in a good place!

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 8:42 pm
Topic: RE: Gastic Sleeve OR Optifast Diet? Help!

It sounds like you carefully reflected what is best for YOU- something no statistic can ever capture! Even with the sleeve, you can stand 3 of us in a row- I lost more than 100% of EWL, the person next to me 50%, and the third lost and regained it all back There is your average. Only you can decide if you are the 100% ewl, the 50%, or the regainer! Doesn't matter which path you take that will always be the case!

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 8:39 pm
Topic: RE: Gastic Sleeve OR Optifast Diet? Help!

This will just be a hodge podge of facts that I find for your. (You got me intersted in updating my numbers- 4.5 years is a long time for new research to come out!). I will supply links from articles so you can review more if interested.

"

Expected weight loss

The sleeve gastrectomy is quite successful in initial weight reduction as well as maintaining the weight loss. Weight loss after a sleeve gastrectomy tends to be faster than the other common operation. Most patients can expect to lose 60 to 70% of their excess body weight over 6 to 12 months.

Advantages of a sleeve gastrectomy

  • Great dietary quality of life. All foods can usually be eaten, but in much smaller quantities.
  • Generally rapid and reliable weight loss.
  • It does not require any on-going adjustments which are required with other procedures, such as the gastric band. However, regular follow up is necessary to ensure weight loss is appropriate and intake is nutritionally adequate  Link

Different article on the sleeve by ASMBS:

  1. Induces rapid and significant weight loss that comparative studies find similar to that of the Roux-en-Y gastric bypass. Weight loss of >50% for 3-5+ year data, and weight loss comparable to that of the bypass with maintenance of >50% Link   

One more article- this is showing how much of the EWL was kept of 3,4, and 5 years respectively:

"The percentage of excess weight loss was 76.8%, 69.7%, and 56.1%, respectively."  Keep in mind this is only 1 study, not a meta type number posting from ASMBS. But it if dated from 2015. Keep an eye on when stuff was published, it matters. The surgeons refined and improved their technique over the last few years. So in this study, 3 years out 56% of EWL was documented. Optifast (I would need to go back to my earlier post) I believe was 15% of EWL, but only 30% of the people kept off 10% or more.... the numbers were even worse for the US study on Optifast, and this only included the "completers". In comparison, this particular study lost track of some of the participants- we see this kind of thing on the boards. People gravitate away because they got it figured out, or because they might not be doing so hot- this study cannot confirm what was going on with the ones they couldn't keep track of.

In a nutshell- we lose significantly more and keep significantly more of it off.  :) There is more reseach out there, but this gives you a pretty good idea overall of where it stands. Please know I am not saying that if you choose Optifast that it is the "wrong" choice. I only hope to show you some hard numbers on it just flat out not being as effective... but no surgery too. You have to weigh the trade off there.

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 8:17 pm
Topic: RE: Gastic Sleeve OR Optifast Diet? Help!

Quick follow up- I read the rest of the study. They cited a US study on Optifast that had worse results. The surmise it is due to the high need for the structutred follow up care. They also cite regain stats compared to the bariatric group- 15% for Optifast, 5% for us. Only 7% of the Optifast group maintened (or improved on) the weight loss. 7%. They cite that 30% of the Optifast folks were declared succusful (keeping of 10% or more of that EWL-- not that much weight relatively!) S0 70% must not have kept of 10% or more of the weight lost. 

The say " The relative weight gain 3 years after lowest recorded weight is about 5% in surgery studies"... look carefully at the wording. They are using the "lowest weight" to compare the regain and define succes. With Optifast, success was defines as 10% of EWL- a huge difference in the amount of weight loss and kept off.

Here is another quote, "On the other hand, bariatric surgery, depending on the extent of malabsorption induced, is definitely less prone to the risk of weight regain compared with all non-surgical intervention programs."  This is what our boards are talking about- it is not enough to just lose the weight. Most of us have histories of lowing huge numbers, but the regaining it back and more. VSG- we keep off statistically 95% of what we lost, and we lose a lot more than the Optifast too. 

Don't get me wrong- Optifast showed good things too. Losing 10% is shown to improve your health. 3 years out and keeping of 10% is nothing to sneeze at. But are stats kick the crap out of that, and we don't constantly fight feeling hungry and deprived to do it. 

And just to reiterate- look at this quote, "In completers, the average excess weight loss after our non-surgical intervention was 53%, which is close to the overall weight loss of 61% reported in a meta-analysis about bariatric surgery." Two points here, we would all agree 53% is so much better than 0%, but 61% makes a signficant difference- that difference matters. And then, that 53% for Optifast was including ONLY the completers. What happens when you factor in those folks who couldn't stick with it- a super common problem generally speaking?

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 7:59 pm
Topic: RE: Gastic Sleeve OR Optifast Diet? Help!

Ok, so here are the results of one study done on Optifast tracking regain up to 3 years. I am giving just a small excerpt, but you may want to peruse it. Just be careful to read all of it carefully- percentages for example are derived from the "completers", thus factoring out those who go off plan. Our vsg stats include all patients, off plan or not post surgery. Additionally, it is explained that for the purpose of this study is was "highly structutred" with tons of support, phases, education, etc. and it mentions how the U.S version is not nearly so robust. Ergo the US stats it is implied are not as good. Anyway, these folks only lost 45% of the EWL, but had regained 15% back by the third year... please keep in mind that this is only counting the people who were compliant and went the distance. If you factor in howver many that couldn't stick with it those numbers would be impacted quite negatively. Terrible stats compared to the sleeve. 

When I had mine done the regain was 5% of EWL, and the percentage of EWL lost was much higher (although I will have to try to track that number down to be more specific). So in a nutshell- we lose more and keep more of it off. A lot more. Even when you factor in the folks who completly derail and don't follow the plan.  Factor those folks out, and I have to believe our numbers seriously improve!

 

Here is a link to the study so you can read all of it in case I misinterpreted or simply skipped important parts!

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 7:38 pm
Topic: RE: Gastic Sleeve OR Optifast Diet? Help!

Yes, it is true some experience regain... even a few here and there total regain (not many that I see post here though). This is where you might benefit by doing some research. The sleeve patients statistically regain on average 5% of what they lost. Optifast is a clusterfuck when it comes to regain. My mother in law lost as much as I did with my surgery, gained all of it and then some back starting shortly after she went into maintenance. 4.5 years out and still going strong, eating real food that is the correct portion size for me without starving or feeling deprived in any manner.

Don't underestimate the power of losing most or all of your ghrelin. Today, for example, was a hot mess- my daughter found out her university retracted a $5,000 housing grant, making her dorm unaffordable for us. She was supposed to move in Sunday, screwing her roommate in the process. Had my hands full dealing with her meltdown, tracking down what happened, and coming up with an alternative plan that worked for us financially and also the roommate. I forgot to eat literally the entire day due to this- not 1 minute did I "feel" hungry. Compare that to when I have acid issues, as acid for some of us can mimic hunger. That was the only time in my 4.5 years I regained above my goal weight. Once that was resolved, immediately able to get my weight back where it belonged and cruising along more like normal now. I tracked religiously too for more than a year- on my high acide days (sometimes up to a two week period) my calories skyrocketed due to the "hunger" associated with it. 

Without experiencing the surgery it is so difficult to wrap your head around why this will be different compared to diet x, y, or z. But it is. So many of us failed at dozens and dozens of diets before we got here, and with surgery lose 100% of goal and maintain it long term or with that 5% regain mentioned. No. Comparison. To. Optifasgt.

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 7:30 pm
Topic: RE: Gastic Sleeve OR Optifast Diet? Help!

This exactly- Optifast can be followed succussfully by some with a great deal of weight loss. Problem is, at some point you go into maintenance. You still have the big ol' stomach that can hold a lot of capacity, loads of ghrelin, and didn't truly learn how to eat real food at the levels needed by your body. The stats for maintaining that loss via Optifast are crappy compared to surgery. 

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 7:17 pm
Topic: RE: Workplace advice

Policies do not normally cover elective- only medically necessary. If her insurance treats this the same as a gallbladder surgery or something, medically necessary. The only time my district really questioned me very indirectly was with my reconstruction surgery post double mastectomy- and it is not that they officially questioned, but rather that was when I could tell the administration didn't feel like it "should count" and started harassing me in other ways if that makes any sense.

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 7:13 pm
Topic: RE: Workplace advice

Sick time can absolutely be planned- you would know in advance if you have a doctors appointment or surgery. It doesn't make them any less "sick time" per fmla. In other words, sick leave is for more than just waking up with the flu or something- it covers more than those type of scenarios.

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 7:10 pm
Topic: RE: Workplace advice

Ohh... now I am wondering if I am misunderstanding a bit. I used to work in a hospital and had PTO- that would have been used in this case, as it is not exclusively intended as vacation time but rather sick leave and vacation time combined with it not mattering how you use it in that instance. Compare that to my teaching job- we have no vacation time per contract, only 10 sick days that can bank if not used, and 2 personal days that you can only use for "buisness that cannot be completed outside of school hours"... but the personal days cannot officially be used as a sick day, nor a sick day as a personal day. Hence, as a teacher my medical leave was paid only because I used my sick days- had any of my recoveries taken longer than 20 sick days, then and only then would benefits kick in that would stop using my sick days and be covered under short or long term disability.  In the hospital situation, once I ran out of PTO I was just out- I don't recall having short term disability benefits provide, although I will fully acknowlege I was so young I might not have noticed it was part of the benefit package.

So in a nutshell- they should not question the use of your PTO. If it is a paid leave that is different than using your PTO, I am much less familiar with that situation. I know in my district we have a sick bank that all teachers are required to donate 1 or 2 of their sick days to. Then, if someone goes out more than 20 days but not long enough to kick in the disability they pull from the sick bank- but that seems to be completely at the discretion of my district. For example, one male teacher was granted access for paternity leave. A cancer patient was denied despite having full documentation of the illness/chemo, etc. (not me, a different teacher). The teachers were PISSED, because the male teacher was a faimly friend of the superintendent and the teachers with cancer are crazy discriminated against. At the end though, even with the cancer teacher having a SLEW of teachers volunteer to gift her sick days, they still did not allow it. Asshole move, and I am not sure if it is legal or not as this poor teacher was just going through some seriosu **** and did not have the energy to fight it other than contacting the union to inquire if she could even be denied in that situation. 

 

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1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 7:00 pm
Topic: RE: Workplace advice

I guess I am not down with the nitty gritty details of the law- but medically necessary is just that. I do know my hubby was required to fill out FMLA paperwork to garner time off to help me with some of the recoveries over the plethora of surgeries I have had, but I have never had to fill out paper work. Just submit the leave request (like normal) along with a letter from the doctor confirming the time off needed medically. I would like to assume that if the original decision was not legal, it doesn't matter that she did not get it in writing... but that would be an assumption. 

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 6:56 pm
Topic: RE: Workplace advice

In the future for anyone reading this- your company cannot legally ask you what your medical issue is and why you need the time off. They can require documentation from your doctor to confirm it is medically necessary, and outlining the duration of your leave. The doctor office will know how to write the letter to "count" legally without breaching HIPPA and privacy practices. If you voluntarily disclose to your company what you are having done, it opens you up to discrimination- unfortunately I learned the hard way about that :( 

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 6:54 pm
Topic: RE: Workplace advice

It is absolutely and unequivocably sick time. FMLA- sick time may be used for going to doc appointments, surgery, recovery- not just of you but of immediate family members as well. 

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 6:51 pm
Topic: RE: Workplace advice

Agree that a medical leave may not be paid... unless she has available sick leave. She should be able to use those without question.

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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happyteacher
on 8/24/16 6:49 pm
Topic: RE: Workplace advice

Ok, so I am a cancer patient and went through more than a dozen major surgeries in the last couple of years. A surgery is by definition not considered elective if your insurance convers it, unless of course you have the most awesome insurance on the planet that covers elective procedures. Hence, I think it might be in the way you approach this- use the phrase "medically necessary", not self-pay, not elective. If you were a self-pay that might be a little harder, but I would think a letter from your doc's office would take care of it. That is a pile of bull**** not allowing you to use sick time for that. 

In my case at work, if my insurance covered it there was no questions asked... and since parts of my issues did involve reconstructive surgery (plastic surgery) that became important to distinquish at work. Get a note from your doc for work documenting the time off as medical as well- but don't just give up! 

Surgeon: Chengelis  Surgery on 12/19/2011  A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!

1Mo: -21  2Mo: -16  3Mo: -12  4MO - 13  5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6  Goal in 8 months 4 days!!   6' 2''  EWL 103%  Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5   150+ pounds lost  

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