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Carmelita’s Posts
Topic: RE: Two Days Post Op - Sleeve - Having Horrible Stomach Spasms - Anybody Else???
Tell your doc...he just perscribed ya ONE HELLUVA ineffective OLD school anti-spasmodic. The reason most docs won't perscribe it anymore is because of BLURRED VISION, vision changes that takes MONTHS to resolve once your discontinued OFF it.
I took it YEARS ago after a surgery (ovarian cyst ruptured n nearly killed me) had to have an illeostomy. Was perscribed that ****saw two eye doctors before 1 told me the blurred vision, rectangular shaped stars, and double moon I saw at NIGHT was because of the hyo. It took a long while for those symptoms to QUIT. Very disturbing....
Tell your doc to look into somethin else. to control these symptoms
2 days post op can be normal swelling/inflammation....see how ya do with ICEY ..gatorade G2s, electrolyte popsicles (walgreens generic) /pedilyte popscicles, semi freezin your protein supps...SLUSHIES ...spoon em in / make ice cubes outta em suckj on em....reasons 3 fold...1. more electrolytes in ya..#1 cause of ER visit is dehydration...2. icey helps reduce internal throat and incision line swelling, 3. helps with post op nausea.
WALK WALK WALK, move that post op trapped gas around. fart fart fart....heating pad and over arm exercises gently workin that trapped CO2 gas (shoulder) outta ya....gas x strips...double up on em...ya won't overdose.
HTH
Topic: RE: What is the 5 day pouch test?
It always amazes me how VSGrs who NEVER EVER tried or completed the 5DPT KNOW so much about it...and ready to slam it, anyone who inquires about it or actually DOES or DID IT
The 5DPT is a VERY useful and effective tool for VSGrs. A tool like any other tool... a high protein low carb "diet", very low calorie "diets", myfitnesspal, a cookbook that sits in your kitchen library collecting dust like ALL mine do! ha! TOOLS!! Can use em IF ya want to , don't want to ...don't HAVE TO. ...same way I feel about 5DPT. which Ive done maybe 6 times in my post VSG life to break a stall and jump start my weight loss.
"Those that say it can’t be done should get out of the way of those doing it" Chinese Proverb
The 5DPT 5 Day Pouch Test...was developed by RNYr Kaye Bailey in 2007. RNYrs are the model in bariatric surgery. DSrs and VSGrs alike get ALL our diets the no drink after eating rules, progression in texture dietary phases post op, calories, daily macronutrient requirements, vits/minerals, and other tools like the CCT (cottage cheese test) to check our stomachs capacity which many VSGrs do/have done.. post op...ALL come from RNY
The word POUCH to describe a VSG stomach is used pretty much exclusively by doctors, researchers , and BARIATRIC SURGEONS..incs this forums sponsor Dr. Criangle. (a quote of his describing VSG "pouch" on my Bougies in VSG blog) my medical records from VSG describe it as a "pouch", my gastroenterologist records describe it as a "pouch" .
.some VSGrs get pretty offended when they see our sleeve's referred to as a pouch...lmao! I about punched my older sister in the mouth when she introduced me as "the one who had gastric bypass" at a Christmas party 3 months post op but would never think of punching my surgeon in the mouth for sayin I have a pouch!
the 5DPT is a GREAT TOOL. ..rec for VSGrs over 6 months post op ...one gal here posted her nut said to wait till after 9 months post op so you check with your nut in case...some day...
when your moanin n groanin for months about the crap carb creep and need to carb detox,break a stall or plateau, need to get back to basics, reaffirm THE RULES of EFFECTIVE weight loss, jump start your weight loss, complain of NO restriction "because I eat more than jane doe or joe schmo" , Ive regained at 2 years out so Im looking to go under the knife again for resleeve, DS, a lapband around my sleeve.. blaming VSG, blaming my surgeons technique anyone and everyone...
let me tell ya that 5DPT can be a GODSEND! It tells you plain as the nose on your face...your restriction is INDEED THERE and NEVER LEFT YOU!! in ONLY 5 DAYS!! By 2nd day your in ketosis...pure unadulterated FAT BURNING for energy mode. By day 3 NOT hungry anymore. Day 4 & 5 most weight lost. Most Ive lost was 8 pounds in 5 days..followin it to a T! . Usually the typical 5 in 5...in ONLY 5 DAYS!! It has NOTHING WHATSOVER to do with CALORIE RESTRICTION "dieting" /torture...its about reaffirming the rules, checking restriction-gettin that tight feelin back
5 DPT looks like this:
DAY 1 and 2 full liquids: protein supps, protein based lo carb cream/blended soups/broths, sf jello/puddings.
Day 3 soft protein ...i.e: soft fish inc canned, eggs lo carb (lactose) cottage cheese, yogurt/s
Day 4 firm protein...i.e ground turkey,chicken, beef, all fish types (avoid fried, breaded)
Day 5 solid protein....i.e. lean (not fatty) dense proteins: white chicken /turkey breast, pork tenderloin, beef /steak, game meats
Each subsequent day ....you can include any foods you had the previous day/s.
Can have salsa, chili, chipotle/mayo, mustards lo carb/SF condiments, spices, flavorers to jazz things up. This atkins carb list includes spices is pretty good.
Day 6 and thereafter...if you so chose...go Atkins induction phase maximize ketosis...it adds a whole list of low carb veggies allowed in induction. ...go next Atkins stage....if you want.
A few caveats on doing the 5DPT on my Stalls and Plateaus blog. ..gotta scroll down some.
Do it...Don't do it Just don't be so ready to 
about it ...if ya don't
Topic: RE: AVERAGE WEIGHT LOSS ON VSG??
Im sorry to hear about your best friend. So young...what a blow!
n Dang! you lost all that weight before VSG....I dunno how true it is...but Ive heard if you lose alot of weight prior to VSG...you might not lose as fast post op. Also when peeps go to revision to DS..from VSG sometimes complain about not losing as fast.
Grehlin...many peeps have no hunger...true hunger or appetite a helluva lot sooner than I did. It came in WAVES of months for me....reminded me of my old Phen-Fen days...I haven't experienced that for over a year now! 
lmao
OPTIMIZE THIS RAPID FAT LOSS PHASE NJ...get as much of that excess weight OFF ya as ya can!
diet, (ez on the crap), 
n cant wait to see your PIX!! woot woot
Topic: RE: Did you have a leak??
oh crap your in the hospital!! No relief with the dilation huh and they didn't see leak then.. Well your in good hands now Hang in there bug... Hope they find what ails ya. Keep up the good fight!
Topic: RE: Did you have a leak??
k got it...for breath foul tasting...can be
thrush (oral yeast.candida) from IV a/b usage ..will kinda have a white coated tongue, maybe some sordes, little/larger white patches on tongue mouth...with A/Bs they kill off bacteria bugs but others like yeast/fungus bugs..aren't touched so there's an explosion of em that manifests elsewhere! Candida loves loves loves sugar...artificial ones too...sugar alcohols nope.
bile reflux like sour taste..puking on an empty stomach..ever get so drunk nothin in your stomach but booze..n PUKE! yup that yellow greenish nasty is BILE from your small intestine. Mostly peeps w/ pyloric damage, common for a lil while post gallbladder removal ..bile don't know what to do with itself once gall bladder is gone I guess, sometimes misdiagnosed as GERD but if thats not controlled by PPIs docs will look closer at bile , peptic ulcers can cause bile reflux...mostly in stomach/small intestine where bile sits (h. pylori a bad bug)...bile reflux can cause stomach cancer and barretts esophagus. Caustic **** way worse than the little HCL we reflux imo...if not treated.
ketosis /ketoacidosis(fat burning for energy mode, losin a crap load of adipose fat from super low carbs less than 30gs) dragon breath usually lasts a week or two. Most peeps describe it as a "metallic" taste with bad breathe someone can smell across a football stadium...lmao!
Maybe can start checkin out these...is this the only symptom your havin? Maybe post ALL your abnormal symptoms here at once. Maybe we can help narrow your search some.
n way to be your own patient advocate. Easy tho it can make ya loco...BTDT plenty of times! 
Ive got so many supplements I take...I got 2 huge fish lure boxes just for them! yeah Im a hypochrondric! lmao supplements tho don't do drugs no more post VSG ,-)
Topic: RE: OT: Whatcha listening to on your iPod?!?
Dick dale ventures Booker T green onions Cali Girls from Van Halen all my ole SURFs UP music
oh n Chris Montez let's dance n yeah that IS me with the ipod...lmao!
Topic: RE: Did you have a leak??
hey bug were'nt you the gal that had a stricture and balloon dilation? Now you have a leak? or ?
Some signs and symptoms of LEAKS and STRICTURES
Most common signs...tachycardia RAPID heart beat...for HOURS. and also unexplained fever over 100.5
post op.. I thought I had a BRAIN TUMOR
Haven't your doctors calmed you down YET? And until someone jumps in ...DO A SEARCH...enter VSG LEAK...lots of peeps w/ em here in the past 5 years ...way more than stricture...
n always error on the side of caution...and get it checked out WITH YOUR DOCTORS. Never come to a WEIGHT LOSS FORUM for medical advice, even tho this board is sponsored by a surgeons office. Dr. Criangle NEVER posts here k.
Topic: RE: News Story
Boo...no mention of VSG at all or do I need new reading glasses? you have VSG AFTER you became a body builder and lost 125 pounds...or maybe too embarrassed to mention it took VSG (extreme remedies for extreme ills) to "get there"
'It took me over two decades to realize there is no magic bullet, no pill, no powder or drink,' she said, 'It's a slow process but you do get there!' It took Ms English 13 months to lose the weight she had put on due to various life cir****tances.
Im just JEALOUS raaarrr pppsssst!!! lmao
Ya look GREAT!! bottom line ...it IS YOUR WORK really that is has got ya there!
Topic: RE: AVERAGE WEIGHT LOSS ON VSG??
average? average usually for whom? are you a man? well you will lose a ****load more right quick.Are you super morbid obese? well you will lose a ****load more right quick. Are you SHORT? well you will lose a ****load more right quick ..Are you SMALL/PETITE FRAMED? well you will lose a ****load more right quick.
Oh maybe lyour ooking for average weight loss on VSG...when it became legit in Jan 2010....60% Average eventual weight loss that MUST be proven for a WLS to be considered successful is 50% eventual weight loss. That's it...before it can be become OFFICIALLY recognized. That was in Jan 2010! in making it legit. That 60% stat says NOTHING whatsoever about an individual VSGr.
Oh maybe looking for average from a particular surgeons office...well let's see ...IF I go by ALL the people Ive seen from MY surgeon's office...that have posted on OH in the past 5 years...all maybe 6 of us....100-110% is OUR average EWL at 15 months post op. So I guess average weight loss usually for my surgeons office is 105%
We're ONLY a tiny fraction representin my surgeons office here tho. TINY FRACTION. ..... NOTHIN on the hundreds comin outta my surgeon's office in SoCal every year..I don't know nuthin about em .... alls this 105% stat makes me... is one pompous ass to think everyone from my surgeon's office gets to 100+% average eventual weight loss.
How's that for AVERAGE/s ,-)
I have no idea what is average..who you are or what is "average" for YOU. ...nor does ANYONE else here. Talk to your surgeon if you want HIS average for YOU, if you have concerns. Getting hungry already...getting hungry period.. is not a symptom VSG eliminates, your surgeon can fix...unless he chopped your head off too right ...never have to "feel" hunger if ya ain't got a brain!! lmao... Can be acid reflux post surgery...common post gastro surgery...on a PPI? Grehlin didn't kick in for me until I was 10 months post op. Grehlin is powerful, significantly reduced w/ VSG... but alas not our only hunger hormone. Insulin, CCK, leptin, cortisol heavier hitters. ..n Losing "ONLY" 11 pounds in 11 days tho ..... is NOT VSGs/your surgeons issue...but YOUR HEADS...glass half empty deal anxiety hittin ya?
your attitude makes all the difference on this NEWJOURNY... expectations are pre-meditated disappointments....lower the bar a tad and be GRATEFUL for second chances to make this right by and "only" for YOU!
Fear panic worry anxiety comparing yourself-not measuring up
most feelings, negative thinking are transitory, not reliable as you enter the hormonal hell phase of VSG....don't depend on em entirely. Kick em to the curb ,-)
Walk, water, ^^protein for post surgical repair , vits n mins, sleep and control that stress (cortisol) Your gonna be ok...strike that...yer gonna be GREAT!!! go get them goals NJ work on them next 5 pounds. Oh crap...ya got the 3 week stall comin up huh..so heads up! Don't freak k YOUR body just doin its thing making its adjustments! Some more info on stalls n plateaus blog.
Keep postin and reading NJ...your head in the WLS game....this forum is open 24/7 we never close. PLEASE PLEASE care to be accountable to YOU everyday. Do the best ya can, trust the process, ultimately yourself...and never ever give up on your WL goals and dreams for a new and improved YOU no matter how frustratin it gets ,-)
Topic: RE: Anyone know medical jargon??
sounds like you have a stricture (narrowing) presented stomach "dysmotility" ( 'difficulty moving' foods thru peristalsis past the stricture) ...dilated (stretched) the tissue with balloon dilation...to 15 mm (~size across inside of a dime) ...typical treatment with endoscopy for stricture.
They inflate deflate the balloon tip attached to the endoscope a few times to push the scar tissue (stricture-narrowing) back and widen that narrowing...to improve motility food gettin past.
I think your lucky you had this sooner rather than later...crossin fingers that stubborn ole scar tissue is nice n soft enough to STAY DOWN with just the one dilation. ... many peeps with strictures have to go in for repeated dilations cuz that ole scar tissue can be stubborn wannin to spring back to where n how it was formed... months later before repeat dilations n gently stretchin it out over a few treatments..keeps it down for good.
Everythin else looks great..esophagus and duodenum (small intestine just past your pyloric valve)
I would expect to get better...strictures are annoying but you can do so much to help yourself out....while gettin past it Take it easy with meats, low fiber foods that slow peristalsis while yer healin.....chew to liquid as much as possible to help yer stomach out...will also help slow YOU down so you can concentrate on SATIETY!! lol see how that works!
This report says to me... yer well on your way...to gettin past this speed bump n ROCKIN THAT SLEEVE!!
Topic: RE: Whey protein vs whey protein isolate
unless yer into Ms Olympus type body building...stick with the whey protein concentrate. Its alkaline NOT ACID processed..RANCID isomer protein. Acid forming foods...I limit.. personal preference of course ,-)
Topic: RE: Cottage Cheese Flavorings?
I use mine in omelettes, egg scrambles, also add carbmasters yogurt to cut salty taste .. the yogurt w/ cottage cheese sounds so weird..but this suggestion from a newly post op years ago...OMG so delicious STILL a staple in my diet to date. Give it a try...if yer the adventuous NOT one to be restricted from boredom/food ruts kinda VSGr
Topic: RE: If your squemish....look away!!!
You too I know your PAIN!! lmao...my lil porkchop was 10 pounds 12 oz...NATURAL nothin but Vistaril prior...lil brat 
ruined my sex life too! 23 years now..gotta tie a 2x4 around Caveman so he don't fall in lmao
yeah candida flairs hurt like a muther don't they! ...on and off for a year or two maybe...wont get them as frequently the further out you go...yeasts/fungus thrive in dark warm places...under boobage, pannis, and belly buttons ,-) skin irritated by sweat/moisture.
For particular bad flairs my go to is Clotrimazole (azoles=for yeasts/fungus)..get it in the female/ tampon /monistat section..a big OTC generic tube (walmart/walgreens i.e.) for same $ a tiny tube costs in the atheletes foot section.
Always on CLEAN, pat dried skin. Liberally applied (so get that bigger tube)...ooooh feels sooo good right away..gone in a day or two
Preventative/not a full on red flamin burnin sloughin rash..GOOD HYGIENE,.CLEAN, DRY skin...NON ALUMINUM deodorant, followed by zinc oxide
All OTC...no script required but man what a relief! lmao!
Some dermatologists will prescribe...nystatin ointment, ketonazole (never worked for me) and for real bad flairs clortrimazole w/ betamethasone ..the beta is a steroid to reduce the inflammation..can cause skin thinning (steroid) so must be used sparingly..but highly effective. like overnight effective
For bad flairs..always take pics, see a dermatologist if your looking for documentation for insurance covered plastics. If VSG was indeed insurance covered good chances your plastics if only a panniculectomy will be covered. Redundant skin issues post WLS is NOT cosmetic surgery...don't let any plastic surgeons office tell you it is.
n no need to be embarrassed about nuthin here we're closer than some of our own families even! .. commonality of obesity issues/VSG. Thousands of us...BTDT!
Topic: RE: Terrible Eating Day
a day in the life...wont be such a big deal if you don't make it one. Carry on soldier...tomorrow's a NEW DAY!
Topic: RE: Two and a half years out question?
When did all this happen? gallbladder removal? did the BR start after? Eating frequent mini meals? high in soluble fiber (binds bile and eliminates it vs. recycling in our bodies
Ya really need to talk to your surgeon...I have no idea what a astophagi is..never heard of it. I don't know how far out from this procedure you are? if its related. Only your docs...can help ya there....even tho this forum is sponsored by a surgeon's office...he doesn't EVER come here to help us, never with medical questions. Maybe you can PM one of Dr. Criangle's pts and see if they can relay a message to him...I understand his pts ask him questions.. at support groups.. for peeps here.
yeah 2 year mark...regain gets alot of us...get soooo relaxed with the novelty of weight loss without a whole lotta effort...and we get soooo damn sick of "dieting"..I got this...the CRAP CARB CREEP eatin CRAP chronically, . Chasing regain over 5 pounds...is a total *****! but doable!
Focus 5 pounds at a time...eat clean START TODAY! Tomorrow never comes...n you know it...I sure did!! ...TODAY!! Don't think about it DO IT.
Clear out the CRAP the flour the processed man made quick n convenient loaded with CRAP carbs....prepare YOUR OWN MEALS...will give ya plenty of time to really think about what you put in your mouth..when ya PLAN!!
Quit goin out to restaurants fast food joints man-made convienent...you don't know what its cooked in, crap they put in that food,..besides spit and dirty fingers
Lots of water, lots of sleep, lots of distracted...MOVEMENT away from your comfort zone...the food source...your kitchen! that candy dish,bag lmao!
I dunno...you already know what to do it wasn't so long ago you had the tools for weight loss...back to basics! ...re-evaluate where you are. I used to say...if I didn't want to be EXACTLY where I am...Id be somewhere else. It took quite awhile for me to get to be EXACTLY where I am...lose ALL 25 of my regain...and KEEP IT ALL OFF goin on a year ....don't lose your focus...and never ever give up ...If an old goat like me can do it ms. lisa...why not YOU ,-)
Keep involved, your head in the game...bout the only thing that got me there. I posted this a couplea days ago...maybe take a looksie... WEIGHT LOSS SUCCESS TIPS
get into tracking your intake... myfitnesspal ...lots of real good folks here have got a whole network of support goin on. Hang in there Lisa...YOU CAN and WILL DO THIS...for YOU!!
Topic: RE: Diagnosed with Gastritis - maybe it was not a stricture afterall
WOOHOO!!! this is the best post Ive read here in a month......well sides seein HappyGirls B&A amazin transformation pics.
Gastritis !! ...and did the balloon dilation anyway...
yer one super duper VSG trooper...let me tell ya! Hold your head HIGH Sara...and go get them goals of yours
Topic: RE: Quick question
Leah..the cupcake porn poster? lmao sorry if not you....I don't recognize your avatar...maybe an update? you look fab and ooh so serious (not the leah avi I knew!) .whoever you are!
Some links calculators BMI BAI BMR Trackers, VSG diets at bottom of my Stalls and Plateaus blog. . On the stalls and plateaus if ya scroll down some to 5 DPT 5 day pouch test...there's a link to Atkins induction. What we're basically on right...high protein, low carb. a whole crapload of foods list...to keep her in fat burning for energy mode.
Much luck...and where's my cupcake anyway ,-)
Topic: RE: Coach Calorie - fat loss tips in for the long haul
I subscribe to this newsletter...I like this website, n a few others I subscribe to...like Shrink Yourself, Am I Hungry, Dr. Mercola, and George Mateljans whole foods livin (nutrition) for my orthorexic ass.
Got this this am..from Coach Calorie thought it was worth sharin...pretty much says it all...what we go THROUGH even with WLS.
A few fav Coach Calorie articles linked on my Stalls and Plateaus blog too
here's the home link Coach Calorie in case this one doesn't work wanna check the website out
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Topic: RE: Hello, new to posting. Question about Baratric Advantage Meal Replacement.
H. pylori hates pepto bismol...put it in the fridge tastes better chilled
on BA MEAL REPLACEMENTS...one word...
no ..ok two
my surg gave me a choice BA or MEDIFAST MR supps. Bariatric Advantage catchy name...so chose it. I went to their warehouse in Irvine (an industrial park) during a preop visit out in cali... I walked out with x2 3 pound tubs each...banana chocolate and vanilla. ...some special BOGO .~$250 total...with shakers
The most vile **** I ever tasted in my life...I mixed it with milks, with water...I had to hold my nose, use straws to drink it ...it SMELT like a dead animal. No refunds. WTF...stuck with em ALL. I was ~6 months post op before I finished em ALL...lmao!
SO.......go with the SMALL LETTERS...lmao! SIMILAR/comparable..I have read better reviews on Medifast. Do NOT mistake MEAL REPLACEMENT with REGULAR PROTEIN WHEY ISOLATE supps. tho NOT THE SAME. Amino Acids in MR are MUCH better amts than reg protein supps...and they have way more daily vits n mins...built in each serv.
what I would do is get into the VITAMIN and MINERAL schedule we are on give ya a running start...and a real good regular protein supp. ALWAYS comparing ingredient lists for best bang for your buck, .Low Sat Fat, Low Carb with less than 8 carbs per serving ...there's lots of em out there that fit the bill... lots of peeps into Premier RTD (ready to drink) protein supps here from Costco, Sams..I never tried em myself.
Oh and look for an UNFLAVORED/NATURAL protein supp...that doesn't taste too milky...will help get them numbers in after for post surgical repair. Add em to EVERYTHING, mushies purees, puddings yogurts whatever...I used to throw it on salads 3 months post op even..HA!
DO NOT BUY TOO MUCH OF NUTHIN tho! ...get into sample packs if goin this route,.... cuz yer tastes may change post op ..sweet becomes sickeningly sweet...salt too salty! Smells heighten post op as well... prolly why BA MR smelt like a dead animal to me...lmao
DIET and NUTRITION OH FORUM for product reviews..protein supps, meal replacements etc,
Bariatric Advantage MR ingredients list..
Topic: RE: Under eating your sleeve?
Its a Japanese custom..called Hara Hachi Bu undereat our stomach sleeve capacity...tradition taught to them since childhood so they don't overeat and become obese.
Techniques can be mastered by ALL not only Japanese...takes about 20 meals for the stomach to memorize satiety point..(no longer hungry and no longer full)
You eat 80% of stomach capacity. As soon as ya feel the slightest amount of pressure following a BITE...YOUR DONE...immediately discard or put away till later.
Dr. Oz article I found on it a couplea years ago and then his show segment on it.
The Okinawa diet references Hara Hachi Bu
I can't get this link to go so here's the article on TECHNIQUE in the huffington post...written by a nut in Cali
Hara Hachi Bu: Eat Until You Are 80% Full
My husband is one of those naturally thin people. He has been thin his entire life and has never had a problem with food. As someone who has been up and down the scales and until 20 years ago when I lost 50 pounds and learned how to keep it off, flirted with various forms of binging and purging, it has been a fascinating learning experience to watch what this "naturally thin" creature does around food. Early in our life together, we were at the dinner table and I noticed that he was just sitting there thinking. There was still food on his plate but he had put his fork down and it looked like he was pondering something important. I said, "What are you doing?" He said, "I'm thinking about how I will feel if I take one more bite. I think I've had enough but I'm just checking in to make sure." It was then that I knew for sure that he was from an entirely different planet than me. On my planet, you ate until there was no more food on your plate. I was taught to clean my plate as a child. The reward for doing so was dessert. The amount on my plate was often determined by someone other than me. This style of eating had absolutely nothing to do with what my body needed, how full I was, or how I'd feel if I took one more bite. I never learned to listen to my body when it came to food.
The Japanese practice something that makes such sense that I can't believe we don't start teaching this to our kids. It's called "hara hachi bu". It means, eat until you are 80 percent full. You have probably heard about the Okinawan people and how they often live to 100. They are the longest lived, healthiest people on the planet and they practice hara hachi bu. Of course it helps to eat healthy food as well, but simply learning to eat until you are 80 percent full would do wonders for us Americans. Most of us have no idea what 80 percent full feels like. We do know that if we eat until we are full, in 20 minutes we are likely to feel too full, as it takes about that long for the stomach to communicate with the brain just how full it is. But how do you tell when you are "80 percent full"? Here is what registered dietician, Susan Dopart, has to say on the subject:
It takes sometimes 15-20 meals to reset the muscle memory of the stomach to get used to less food and people need to trust that will happen. Most are used to eating until full, which is past satiation and which keeps weight on.
Susan suggests eating just half of what you normally eat and then checking in to see how you feel. According to Ms. Dopart, once we begin to feel any stomach pressure we are at the "80 percent full" stage. She also tells her clients to eat until they are no longer hungry, instead of eating until they are full.
Many of my clients say their hunger/satiety mechanism is broken. I understand this, as mine was as well. If you override your body's natural inclination to stop eating when it has had enough, over and over again, I think that natural signal can go into a coma. According to Susan, however, it can wake back up after about 20 meals. I can tell you that after years of maintaining a fifty pound weight loss, mine is working again. However, the challenge now is to listen to it and honor it.
Whoops ok found it...Here's the link too...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/irene-rubaumkeller-/not-overea ting_b_969910.html?ref=tw
HTH!!
Topic: RE: What would you do differently?
prolly coulda woulda shoulda researched more... prevalence and prevention of gallbladder problems post op, the hormonal hair loss phase n effective prevention, proper nutrition, the importance of lifestyle change this second time around...water, exercise, support..therapy IRL, or here, there...always keepin my head IN the WLS GAME, mindful eating, anatomy and physiological processes.....and finally at almost 4 years post op...gettin it thru my thick head that "dieting" ala Atkins aint for everyone this is NOT a one size fits all surgery...since I gave up on the "meat keeps me full longer DIET" ..goin more whole food vegetarian.. my regain melted off eatin foods I LOVE have always LOVED.....carbs.
Most angry about ...that my most XLNT surgeon..didn't chop off my HEAD , didn't sew up my mouth, chop off my tongue, recommend elbow splints post life with VSG. ...it woulda made this whole damn afterlife...so much easier!! HA! That VSG would absolutely change my life...but wouldn't "fix" me. I had to do that meself! dang it! lmao
but MOST DEFINATELY tho biggest shoulda woulda coulda.. I DIDN'T DO THIS SOONER!! VSG saved my life, gave it back to me on a silver plater filled with tastes no food can match! . Im forever grateful and faithful...for better or worse.... till death do we part.
Topic: RE: This place is scaring me!
Like Holly, Im soooo glad you changed your mind & aint scurrred no more soooo important for YOU...no matter who you offend, or takes offense.
This is a pretty dang good forum Straw..don't give no one that power..to scare you ...
Ive been here off n on sheesh...5 years now I GOT NO WHERE ELSE TO GO ...I GOT NO WHERE ELSE TO GO ...I GOT NOTHING...man" lmao!!
There is a VSG Maintenance board here on OH.. its pretty dead there tho that's why most VSG vets stay here .
Hang in there Straw...yer bound to get upset with a bunch of us...n Im sure there will be someone out there to return the favor ,-)
but overall...YOUR GONNA BE AOK HERE cuz we're family now...
Topic: RE: This place is scaring me!
YUP I don't discriminate! lmao!! ...do you know me or what Holly! lmao...I luv you woman!!
Topic: RE: OT? Non-wls Husband drives me crazy with advice!
We all aren't textbook or some dietary manual ...following your Drs plan...may not be the best plan...for you!
Yer on mushies...and puking. I didn't notice how far out you are...maybe 3-4 weeks if on mushies right? its been awhile ,-) you waitin till every bite settles in between bites. Maybe try really really slowin it down a notch.
IF...no other symptoms....back it up!!..hang out in full protein liquids, blenderized thinned solids for 1-2 weeks longer. TAKIN the progression in dietary phases down a notch is AOK!!...SLOW IS GOOD!! Maybe ya got more swellin/inflammation than the next joe....have you already had the 2 week post op check up? havin those issues then. Bring it up with Doc?
On the Food Police...uggghhh.....flashback alert...I remember I dunno some while back...Caveman says ...YOU SUPPOSED TO BE EATING THAT? It was some nasty sugary evilness...I said something like...NO...AND? lmao!
You get it here too...carb nazis, finger waggers....lmao. NO ESCAPE!! lmao!
DO THE BEST YA CAN through the HORMONAL HELL PHASE...like micheal j fox says...KEEP THE FIGHTING CLEAN...AND ...THE SEX DIRTY!!
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