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Topic: RE: Calling on the medical professionals! Sorry so long!
First, sorry you are going through so much, and hope they get things cleared up soon.

I am NOT a medical professional, but did go through some similar swelling a few years ago before my VSG and weigh loss.

I was put on a different Blood pressure medicine which shut down my production of red blood cells giving me severe anemia.  Un-fortunately it took 6 months before a doc doing my colonoscopy had my blood drawn and tested for this during the colonoscopy.  The results came in just after he was done, and I was immediately checked into the hospital and given SIX pints of whole blood over the next day which just brought me up to the minimum red blood cell level to leave the hospital.  I stopped the Lisinopril and took ( and still take) and Iron pill, and six months later I was back to a normal iron level, and had my VSG surgery.  My levels are still normal a year plus after my VSG.

I had seen 3 specialists and had various blood tests, heart function tests, and even MRI and CT scans.  No one did the $20 red blood cell count, and I dragged around for months, and nearly died.  My point from all of this, is you have to keep after the medical people.  Look up your symptoms and become your own expert. And ask everyone just as you are doing.

My armature advice is to make sure you mention the back pain.  Your kidneys are there, and they are what get rid of the excess fluid from your body.  They also filter out the chemicals you were given, and they are probably worried about that, and will need to check their functioning.

Make sure they are checking your red and white blood cell counts as there are a bunch of types of anemia you could develop and could contribute to your symptoms.

Salt is probably the one biggest contributor to retained water and to blood pressure.  If you are not already taking your bp several times a day, I would recommend it highly.  The $50 relion brand at wallmart are actually good BP machines if you do not already have one. 

Docs are supposed to be scientists, and they need good data to make diagnosis and decisions.  I would suggest keeping a diary of everything you eat, and how you are feeling/notes on any symptoms, and you bp and weight and even temperature during the day.  These types of notes can really help you and the docs communicate, and follow what is going on with you.

My armature quick list of things would be:
-Salt in your diet,
-kidney functions not getting rid of liquids fast enough.
-Not drinking enough fluids to help was stuff out of your body (I know it seems backward).
-Possible blood clots as you mentioned
-Anemia
-out of balance blood electrolytes like magnesium/calcium/selenium/zinc
-you heart not beating right or enough to move the fluids through your body (this is the "congestive" part of congestive heart disease).  This can cause fluid build up. I had and early form of this that went away after my vsg, and is one of the reason many loose such a large amount of weight in the first week or two after VSG.  It is the initial fluid loss. I lost 15 pounds in 4 days after my VSG. Never lost more than 2 or 3 pounds a week after that of real fat loss.

I hope this gives you something positive to try, or at least discuss with your docs.

Good luck, Mack

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Starting Weight 354/  PreOP 335/  Current 249/  Goal 195

Topic: RE: Antidepressant
Lexapro according to a quick look up is an SSRI.  Once you are on these, they are VERY difficult to get back off of, and can take weeks or months of tapering off.  My best friend went through this after taking an SSRI after cancer treatment.  These are VERY SERIOUS drugs.  They can have extreme side effects including a risk of suicide.

If you really don't absolutely have to have and SSRI drug I would not start one.  If you are really having an emotional problem that will not go away, then yes they have a use when closely medically supervised.

UCSF did a study showing that table sugar could be addictive like many drugs, and animals would go through a withdrawal like a drug or alcohol withdrawal.  I have found that kicking carbs in general takes about two or three days of real effort and about two weeks to stop the cravings totally.

Finally one of the most important supplements you can take is a high quality OMEGA 3 like krill oil or at least fish oil.  If you do a google search on omega3's you will find dozens of articles on studies that have show that for many people the omega 3 oil has a greater positive effect on people with bi-polar and other emotional problems than SSRI drugs like Prozac.  Our brains are composed of more than 50% omega3 and 6 fats, and we do not usually get enough omega 3s.  And the only side effect is having a healthier heart.

I am an amateur, but I hope this helps.

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Topic: RE: Please tell me it won't be this way AFTER surgery- I am miserable
It will get better! 

First, a recent study at UC San Francisco showed that coming off a high sugar diet like our "modern" society eats causes withdrawal symptoms just like withdrawing from many drugs or alcohol!  Your body has to reconfigure itself to burn stored fat instead of carbohydrates, but as long as you keep it supplied with protein and vitamins it will be all good in a few days.

It looks like you are in central Ohio.  You might try some of the Protein shake mixes at the Raisin Rack on Shrock near 270 and Cleveland Ave.  I get the "Essential Natural" brand there because it does not have artificial sweeteners, and I have a bad reaction to Splenda/sucralose.  The have some individual packets you can buy and try out to make sure you like it before buying a large container.  And be careful as sometimes you taste preferences change after surgery.  Don't buy too much ahead of time.

Try making your drinks with skim or 1% milk in a blender.  Also try adding ice as it really help the texture. You can also add a little sugar free pudding mix like a teaspoon full or so which can change or help the taste and texture also.  You can add Coco powder which has very little carbs, but you do have to add some additional sweetener.  I do use a little sweet&low, but mostly use Steevia Clear extract which you can get in the natural foods section of Kroger for about $12.  It is a little bottle, but does last for a long time. 

Some people like the premixed shakes in cans. I could not stand them, or they had splenda/sucralose in them. 

It will get better after surgery.  In a few weeks you will be amazed (and sometimes a bit disgusted)  at how much food everyone else eats. 

Getting through the refined Carbohydrate withdrawals is about as bad as it gets.  It is worth it though.

You will not believe how good you will feel two weeks after major surgery.

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Starting Weight 354/  PreOP 335/  Current 249/  Goal 195

Topic: RE: The secret was Indian food!
I would suggest that anything that has fruit sugar (fructose) could be helpful in keeping or regaining some of the fat pounds.  (That does sound strange after going through so much to get rid of excess fat levels, but we do have to have a healthy amount.)  Unlike the other common sugars sucrose and glucose(dextrose) Fructose does not trigger the satisfaction or enough already cycle, and insulin can cause it to be stored directly to fat cells, and it has to be converted in our liver to glucose to be able to be used by our other body cells.

Of course there is the high fructose corn sweetener they add to everything, but concentrated natural fruit sugar is abundant too.  Foods like honey, or agave, and fruit juices are concentrated with fruit sugar.

I have seen half a dozen research reports recently that in animal studies fructose causes a large weight gain and the weigh gain is not seen with sucrose or glucose/dextrose which is table sugar.  

This has been one of the major contributors to our abundant obesity in our modern society.  Now you might be able to use this for some good.  I would suggest that the foods which are stabilizing you weight, it might be the fructose in them as much as the high fats which are keeping your weight up.

I have been "stalled" at a stable level for about six months, and then suddenly gained 8 pounds in about 10 days when I started eating fresh whole pineapple and Greek yogurt with honey added (damn it was good though).  It has taken several weeks to come back from the weight gain.  It scared the hell out of me until I realized what was causing it. (but fresh fruit is so "healthy"... yea in small portions!)

Something else to consider at least.  Mack

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Topic: RE: Do this BEFORE and after surgery!
That is very important information.

Some kind of bacteria is going to live there, and you definitely want the friendly kind.

There is another reason to be on probiotics. There have been several studies that have found that bariatric patients have significantly quicker weight loss when they are taking pro-biotics.  I have seen posts here in the past where several of the surgeons are now recommending their patients take probiotics to improve their weight loss results.

I did very well with my home made keifer.


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Topic: RE: Struggling with CPAP, any suggestions?
Probably about every 25 pounds or so for me I need an adjustment down a number, but I am a big person too. Started out at 350, and have leveled out about 250, and Ideal for me would be about 200 or so.

A secret code on many cpap machines is that if you un-plug the power, and hold the left and right arrow buttons down while plugging the power in and then release after a few seconds.  This will enable the actual pressure settings to be changed on the machine.  This setting is a doctors prescription, so use it at your own risk, but I did not have the 5 grand to pay for a sleep study to move it down a couple of notches.  If I had not changed it down, I would have probably just stopped using the cpap, and this was better for me. I do sleep much more soundly, and do not fall asleep during the day like I used to.

I do still use it, but it is not as absolutely necessary as when I was a hundred pounds heavier.  But I do still sleep better with it.  I did talk to the lung doc at my 6month followup, and they did a simple O2 study for me at home, and gave me an official Rx for the 8.0 level I am now using.  They were not thrilled that I had changed my own settings, but did understand what and why I did it.





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Topic: RE: always hungry
Acid can give you the feeling of being hungry.  Prilosec or the generic Omeprazole 20mg are available over the counter and are a good start.  Some people need more or a Rx for Nexium to help.

It's a good Idea to contact you Docs on this, but lots of surgeons just put all their patients on these at least for the first month or two.



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Topic: RE: Struggling with CPAP, any suggestions?
Some insurance policies will pay for a new mask and hose once of twice a year, but for me it comes out of my deductable.

A tip is to not overtighten the straps.  This will make it much more comfortable and not mash the mask into your face.  The sleep tech told me that you will get the best seal with the straps as loose as possible as the edges of the mask expand with the air pressure to make the seal.  Play with the straps some to see how it reacts with your face.

My Cpap has help me sleep, and probably saved my life when a Rx BP med cause me to deveope severe anemia which took them forever to diagnose (this was before my VSG).

Also, I had to have my pressure adjusted down as I lost weight. At 350lbs I had it set at 11. now at 250lbs it is down to an 8 setting.  Something to wath for as the pounds go. (I would have air leak from my nasal area directly into my mouth at the higher pressure after I lost weight. lowering the pressure fixed this as I lost the weight).



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Topic: RE: Do you Weigh ,or Do you Measure your food?

I do the same: weighing everything except liquids.

This is an interesting mental exercise, but in reality for what we eat, the difference in whether we are measuring volume ounces or weight ounces is going to be so small that is will not have any major impact on our diet.

The important thing is to MEASURE it somehow, and be consistent.  I have found that as time goes by, I CAN eat more, and measuring out things before hand is the only sure way to not eat more.

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Topic: RE: Greek Yogurt?
Compare it to the same brand in plain, and there will be a HUGE difference.  Any of the flavored yogurts, or Kefir add a bunch of sugar with the flavor.

Something to try with the plain is to mix in SF pudding into the Greek yogurt.   The SF Cheesecake pudding mixed into the plain Greek yogurt is great.

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Topic: RE: Panic! Surgery moved up - need input right away, please!
I had a smooth recovery, and I could have done most of that at 3 weeks out.

You will probably need to take a nap in the afternoons, and you will need to arrange to keep track of you food and liquid intake during all of this. 

Like others have said, listen to your body, and don't over do it, but you should be fine.

Keep up with your exercise and diet pre-op, as the better shape your are in for the operation, the quicker your recovery.  I had MORE stamina at a month after my operation than I did a month before.

Good luck.

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Topic: RE: Anyone have their gallbladder removed.......
I had my gallbladder out due to stones a couple of years before my VSG.  It was a very similar surgery to the vsg except I did not have to stay overnight.

I think that it is great that you can have them both done at the same time.  That is one less day in the hospital, and they are working in the same area, and you won't have to worry about having it out at a later time, which happens to a LOT of VSG'ers. 

My amateur opinion is one surgery is way better than having to go under the anesthesia twice.  I don't think you will notice the difference in any after surgery pain or healing time either than if you were having the vsg by itself.  I would have preferred to have it all done in one go.......

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Topic: RE: Emotions....mine seem so out of whack....
Omega3's are a huge help for evening out emotions. Look it up on google, but there have been dozens of studies that Omega3's have just as big an effect of emotions as Prozac or other SSRI drugs without all of the side effects.

Also, with our restricted diets, we do not get as much for regular food sources.

I take "Omega Red" Krill oil capsules now. They are about half the size of the fish oil tablets, and no "fish burps".  But the omega 3's do so much for me I would take the fish burps too, if i ran out of the Krill oil.



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Starting Weight 354/  PreOP 335/  Current 249/  Goal 195

Topic: RE: vsg 6/8, what am I doing wrong??
First you need to call your surgeons office and talk with them about this.  You sleeve should be relaxing a bit by now, and you must eat enough nutrients to stay healthy and hydrated.  There are a few complications such as a stricture or narrowing of the sleeve, or a kink or twist that can develop and you must be working with your surgeon and local physician on finding out if you have a more serious problem.

You program should have had a pretty specific diet guide for you. Go over it again to find all of the details.  By three weeks you should be on liquid protein OK, and even soft solids like cottage cheese on some programs.

You do have to eat VERY slowly at first. Take small bites with a baby spoon, and wait at least 30 to 60 seconds between bites. It takes that long for a swallow to reach your stomach and you want to make sure you don't over fill it.

The excess saliva is called the Foamies or the "spits" down under.  This happens when your sleeve is full to the top and food is backed up to your esophagus. You body is trying to "wa**** down" but with our tiny tummies there is no place for it to go, and the saliva actually makes even more of a backup.  Sometimes standing, walking around, and patting your stomach like you are burping a baby can get the contents to move on to relieve the situation, but in the mean time it hurts, and you have to keep spitting.

There are big differences in the different protein drinks. I can't stand any of the pre-mixed cans. But I like some of the powders mixed with skim milk and ice cubes mixed in a real blender.  Just don't mix up more than you will consume, as it does NOT keep well for more than a couple of hours.

Cottage cheese and ricotta cheese and Greek or regular yogurt are all good sources of protein.  If your program allows you to start other "mushies" at this stage, tuna salad spun in a blender or food processor are a good alternative. 

You must eat to stay healthy, especially the protein.  This is one of the reasons you are feeling faint. Make sure you are taking your vitamins and supplements too.  These are not optional.

We have a very specific program for these first critical weeks.  You really have to get on program, and you are far enough off program you need to get the professionals involved to get you back on track, and to make sure nothing else is wrong.  That is part of the program and services you doctors provide.

Get the help you need, and things will get better for you.

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Topic: RE: Anyone...... have a medical reason for blacking out...???
The two biggies are low blood pressure, and Anemia.

I developed anemia from a reaction to a BP med (lisinopril) and did have some of the blackout episodes you are describing.  This was before my VSG, and was one of the reasons I did the vsg was to reduce the BP meds.

Low blood pressure is the most likely in your case since you are still on your bp meds with you great weight loss.  Your PCP should have been monitoring your bp and adjusting you Rx as you are loosing weight, and you diet changes also have a great effect on your bp.  I am down to just two meds instead of three, and about a quarter the dose of those than before my vsg.  Un-fortunately I will still need to be on the low dose, but my bp is MUCH better than it was and i usually run about 120/70 which is near perfect.

You should probably call your PCP before dropping your meds all together.  Not a good idea to make that drastic a change without medical instructions on a prescription. 

I would highly recommend getting a BP meter to have a home.  They have some inexpensive ones at walmart for about $40 to $50 that have very good reports ("Relion" store brand).  I have had one for over a year, and take my BP and weigh in every morning and record it on a calender. I take the calender in to the Docs every time as you cannot beat having real reliable data for them to make decisions on.  I also take the bp meter in with me to the docs so we can compare its readings to theirs with the fancy one.  

Anyhow you cannot beat having your own meter to take real measurements when you have this kind of issue.

These blackouts can be very dangerous.  If you fully pass out you can fall on something an injure yourself.  I have an uncle who had to have stitches in his head from blacking out as he was standing up and hit the coffee table.  For now if you do not make any sudden movements and stand up slowly it will help.


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Topic: RE: OMG, the supplements are making me ill
I have a whole bottle of calcium citrate chew-ables which I can't stand too. Yuck

What I did was take one of the standard walmart calcium citrate pills and put it into a small juice glass or shot glass with a table spoon of water. It would not dissolve exactly, but did break up into a wet powder after about 10 minutes. I then just did it as a shot or put it into a tablespoon of yogurt or protein drink. It was gritty, but had no taste at all, and was easy to wash down with a sip of water or protein drink as a chaser.




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Topic: RE: please tell me HOW MANY DAYS DID YOU STAY IN HOSPITAL
One night for my VSG, Checked in on Thursday morning, and out on Friday afternoon.  Could have stayed longer if I needed, but I was ready to go "home" and did ju
Topic: RE: Advice - chocolate protein powder
You can add a tablespoon or two of unsweetened Hershey's coco powder to vanilla and turn it into chocolate, and  it only adds about 3grams of carbs per tablespoon. I usually have to add a packet of sweet&low for each tablespoon of coco.  This works very well in a blender.

Sometimes you have to play with it some to get the strength and sweetness right, but it does give you a lot of control over the final taste.  A box of coco powder is also very cheap compared to most protein mixes.

I also have a bad reaction to splenda/sucralose that they stick into everything so this let me get around that too.

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Topic: RE: Protein Mocktail - YUM
Mixed in a blender with ice almost always helps with the texture and taste in my experience.

Some other quick variations:

Add a teaspoon of SF instant pudding to make a smoother texture.
You can add nearly any flavor to Vanilla shakes. 
I added cinnamon and apple slices to the blender with Vanilla to make an apple pie flavor.

Add about half a tsp of decaff instant coffee to the chocolate for a mocha flavor
Add a few drops of mint extract for a mint chocolate flavor

Add a couple of teaspoons of no-sugar added natural peanut butter (or almond butter) for a Reece's choc/PB flavor.

You can put your protein drink into a ice-cream freezer to make a protein ice cream. This especially works well if you have added some of the sf pudding powder to the mix.

You can also add SF instant pudding to plain Greek yogurt for a mouse like dessert.


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Topic: RE: surgery cancelled.......really depress.
I would suggest you also try getting a copy of the Sleeve guide from your surgeon or on the web, and following the diet guide there.  The Atkins like protein then some veggies is something you will need to get used to, and getting rid of carbohydrates especially sugars is very important.

I would suggest you also get your fasting INSULIN levels checked (these are different from you blood glucose levels).  If you have insulin intolerance like most of we heavy people, you are fighting extra hard against your body chemistry to loose weight.  There are Rx's like metformin which can help reduce insulin resistance and aid in your effort to loose.  This can significantly cut your carbohydrate cravings.

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Topic: RE: surgery cancelled.......really depress.
I have an intolerance to Splenda/Sucralose.  If I consume anything containing it I loose so much strength in my legs I can barely walk up stairs.  I found out the hard way a few years ago when I switched to splenda for my iced tea an started having problems. Did a search on google and found someone talking about splenda causing this.  I got rid of the splenda (damned hard-they stick it in everything even if it is not "diet"). and within two weeks I had my strength back. 

Sorry for the hijack, but the leg strength thing jumped out at me.



"tastes like sugar because it is made from sugar" -- with a few chlorine atoms glomed onto it.  Wow a hydrocarbon with chlorine that makes-a "chlorocarbon" just like DDT and PCB.  That ought to be good.....

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Topic: RE: Tea please
Splenda causes me extreme muscle weakness...
   
Splenda and the generic form sucralose causes me to have such extreme muscle weakness that I can hardly climb stairs.

I thought I was getting some degenerative disease like MS, or MD and started out doing a web search on leg weakness, and found several sites talking about this and other reactions from Splenda. I had recently switched to Splenda in the big bag for my iced tea from saccharine. I have never had any allergies to anything before this.

Eliminated all the Splenda/sucralose from my diet, and the leg weakness went away in about two weeks. I have had a couple of re-occurrences over the past couple of years, but every time I had accident ly had something with Splenda/sucralose. Diet 7-up switched to splenda, and once a friend had some cranberry juice, and I did not realize she had one bottle of regular,and a second open bottle of "low cal" juice with splenda. Also found it in some but not all of my "Ice" brand chewing gum.

It has been such a strong cause and effect, I have zero doubts this stuff really gets me. I have started reading labels on everything, but it is amazing the products they put it into.

My parents and siblings still use the stuff, so I have to be careful at family dinners too. I tried to convince them it was bad, but they have not seen the symptoms, and my mother is addicted to Diet-Rite.

I know there are lots of people who use it with no apparent ill effects, but then only 5% of the population will die from peanuts.

"Tastes like sugar because its made from sugar" -- with a few chlorine atoms glommed on to it.

A few links:
first Google "chlorocarbon"
http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/12/03/sucralose-dangers.aspx

By the way, the photo of the red ring around someones neck on the mercola site is exactly what I got once from just Dentene Ice gum with sucralose.  Do a search for splenda on the mercola site, they have a lot of articles on this problem product.

When I stopped chewing gum with sucralose, the last major product I was consuming (unknowlingly) my gums got significantly healthier.  This was measurable by my dentist office. The "pocket depth" of my gums against my teeth was getting where i was going to need treatment.  After I got rid of the sucralose gum, all these measurements got much better into the good health range. The only thing I changed was the brand of gum I chew. (still sugarless, but no sucralose).  I do keep checking packages as they keep adding it to products that used to not have it, including a protein mix I was buying at Walmart that now has it in the mix.

I get a headache from NutraSweet, but I can hardly walk with splenda.  I now use steevia liquid from Kroger, or a very small amount of saccharine(sweet&low).

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Topic: RE: VSG vs VBG???
I personally have not heard of anyone getting a VBG recently.  The only people of the vsg section of the board who have VBG listed is because they chose the wrong surgery in their profile setup. They do not actually have the VBG they have a VSG.

The VBG seemed to have all of the disadvantages of the Lap band plus it was a more invasive procedure cutting a hole through the stomach. There is a very experimental procedure where they are installing "rings" to kind of stitch the stomach into a tube they are doing through the throat and esophagus, but it is pretty far out there, and VERY experimental.  It kind of works like the VBG without the big hole through your stomach for the band to go through. I can't see it working as well as a true sleeve though.



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Topic: RE: Sad all the time now
First, the first week after surgery is the worst.  Get out your surgeons guide book and re-read everything.  As you go along you will be able to eat more things to where you will be able to eat anything, but just in more reasonable quantities.

I just saw a video of a scientific presentation where in animal studies the subjects (rats) had the same symptoms of withdrawal when they stopped consuming sugar as ones given opiates. (withdrawn, despondent etc).  So part of this after surgery depression is withdrawal from all of the carbs we used to eat.

Something that will help is to get in all of your vitamins, and especially the Omega 3s.  You can still do the liquid flax seed oil in the liquids phase.  There have been dozens of studies that have show Omega 3s to have a profound effect of brain function and mood, often as effective as Prozac class drugs without any of the side effects.

You will be able to demonstrate healthy eating to your kids because you WILL be eating healthy amounts and choices if you stick to the plan.

You can do this, and It will make a profound positive change in your life if you stick to the plan!

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Topic: RE: dvd copy of your surgery?
It depends on the surgeon.  Dr Pleatman recorded all of his surgeries on a usb disk drive, and he gave me a copy of my surgery video on a usb thumb drive I supplied.

I had watched several surgeries on-line before, but it is a little strange to watch one and know it is YOU being worked on.

It is worth asking the question.

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