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Gastric Sleeve - 1 year later - worst thing I've ever done

bethyoh
on 3/2/10 11:24 am
VSG on 03/23/09 with
I had the gastric sleeve surgery March 23, 2009.  I had trouble right after eating and drinking with esophogeal spasms.  My goal was 100 pounds and I am now at 107 pounds and still losing every week.  I am unable to eat more than about 1/4 cup each meal.  I live on cooked shrimp, asparagus and strawberries.   I have had tests including two EGD's to no avail.   I have just started drinking Ensure Plus to gain weight.  This is the worst thing I have ever done and wish I had had the gastric bypass instead.

My surgeon assures me that out of 25 patients I would be the only one that has had trouble.  He thinks I just don't want to eat.  (I have changed doctors.)  I am skinny and miserable and have no energy to play with my 10-year old son. 

Is there anybody out there who has had this trouble.  Will it ever get better?
(deactivated member)
on 3/2/10 11:28 am
VSG on 05/04/09 with
I am sorry you have had such a bad time!!  You might find a more dense population of sleeve folks who can be helpful on the sleeve board though. 

Come and cross post there and see if you can get some more help!

http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/vsg/a,messageboard/board_i d,5463/

Sorry for all your troubles. 
amanda J.
on 3/2/10 11:41 am
I am sorry to hear this. I am scheduled to be sleeved on the 29th and am already scared out of my mind. I am wondering if maybe you started all over it may help, I mean trying foods other than the shrimp, asparagus and strawberries. Can you get down any of the mushies like you had in the beginning? I am sorry I am not much help because I have not had the surgery yet, I hope you find better answers or suggestions than mine. I wish you all the luck and you are in my thoughts.
(deactivated member)
on 3/2/10 11:44 am, edited 3/2/10 11:54 am - Baltimore, MD
VSG on 02/11/09 with
there are plenty of things that would go down better for you if you are trying to gain and/or maintain...soups, cheeses, protein shakes, meal replacement shakes, oatmeal...if you can eat asparagus, you can surely eat these things? 

edited to add: are you getting your liquids in, taking your vitamins? what is your BMI now? 
sia
on 3/2/10 11:51 am, edited 3/2/10 12:32 pm - NY
DS on 05/13/09 with
 You might need a prokinetic medication that is also an antiemetic (I would stay away from Reglan). What does your gastroenterologist say? Are you on any acid reducers? 
We Are A Fever. We Are A Fever. We ain't born typical. ~ The Kills
If you have any g-ddamn sense and want WLS, think about the DS.www.dsfacts.com
Redhaired
on 3/2/10 12:30 pm - Mouseville, FL
DS on 07/13/06 with
Have you seen a DS surgeon?  The VSG is actually the stomach portion of the DS and an experienced DS surgeon -- may have more experience with the VSG than a surgeon who is doing it as a stand alone procedure. 

  

 

 

(deactivated member)
on 3/2/10 1:11 pm - AZ
Revision on 12/06/06 with
On March 2, 2010 at 12:30 PM Pacific Time, Redhaired wrote:
Have you seen a DS surgeon?  The VSG is actually the stomach portion of the DS and an experienced DS surgeon -- may have more experience with the VSG than a surgeon who is doing it as a stand alone procedure. 

???

How in the world would a DS surgeon be better regarding sleeve issues vs. a sleeve surgeon?

Tassia
on 3/2/10 1:15 pm
Red said "may have more experience".  

And a vetted DS surgeon WILL have more experience than the 25 the OP quoted in her post.  
*   Take 1 DS, add a little p90x and stir :)
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(deactivated member)
on 3/2/10 1:19 pm - AZ
Revision on 12/06/06 with
On March 2, 2010 at 1:15 PM Pacific Time, Tassia wrote:
Red said "may have more experience".  

And a vetted DS surgeon WILL have more experience than the 25 the OP quoted in her post.  

I am aware of what she wrote, I read it too.

A sleeve surgeon may have more experience than a DS surgeon in sleeves.  But a DS surgeon is not going to be better at resolving a problem such as the OP refers to anymore than a sleeve surgeon.

I can appreciate why you guys push DS so much, I get that.  But this one was a bit of a stretch.

Redhaired
on 3/2/10 1:38 pm - Mouseville, FL
DS on 07/13/06 with
Because the sleeve has been done as a stand alone for only a few years but the DS has been done for many years (remember the stomach portion of the DS. is the VSG)- thus it is possible that a DS surgeon would have more experience with the sleeve than a surgeon who only recently started doing the sleeve. 

  

 

 

(deactivated member)
on 3/2/10 1:43 pm - AZ
Revision on 12/06/06 with
On March 2, 2010 at 1:38 PM Pacific Time, Redhaired wrote:
Because the sleeve has been done as a stand alone for only a few years but the DS has been done for many years (remember the stomach portion of the DS. is the VSG)- thus it is possible that a DS surgeon would have more experience with the sleeve than a surgeon who only recently started doing the sleeve. 

A surgeon could do 1 DS a month or another surgeon could do 50 sleeves a month.

The point was not a good point to make to begin with.

Bottom line, the OP needs to go to an experienced surgeon to help determine what the problem is and it doesn't need to be a DS surgeon.

Redhaired
on 3/2/10 1:48 pm - Mouseville, FL
DS on 07/13/06 with
Whatever

  

 

 

MsBatt
on 3/2/10 2:37 pm
Actually, a DS surgeon might be a better choice than a Sleeve surgeon because the OP sounds like she may be having some malabsorption problems, something Sleeve surgeons probably rarely ever see.
dogma2karma
on 3/2/10 12:43 pm - Suburbia, CA
I had a little trouble with spasms when I was early out.  My surgeon gave me a Rx that helped.  

Do you think the spasms are what is causing your current problems?  I am a bit farther out than you, have a tiny sleeve stomach and can probably eat only about 1/4 cup at a time comfortably.  I have to eat often.  I also have to be careful not to drink too much while I am eating or I will get uncomfortably full before I get enough protein.  How often are you eating? 

I am curious to know why do you think having the gastric bypass (I am assuming you mean RNY) instead would have prevented this problem.

I hope your new doc is better able to help you.  Perhaps he would be willing to consult with a clinic that does lots of VSGs, like LapSF.

Good Luck
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Laura S.
on 3/2/10 2:07 pm
Poor you, that sounds terrible.  Are you able to drink protein shakes?  They may help with your energy level.  Keep trying, if you don't get any answers from your Doctor than go to a new Doctor.  Hope things get better for you!

Laura
      

 


          

                                           
(deactivated member)
on 3/2/10 2:20 pm - Woodbridge, VA
I very highly doubt that the RNY would have been a better choice than the VSG given your current issues. With the RNY, you would be adding caloric malabsorption on top of your restriction, so you'd probably be having even more trouble.

I would ditch the asparagus and strawberries and go for something more calorically dense and with more protien. Protein shakes, eggs, fish, cheeses, creamy soups...
MsBatt
on 3/2/10 2:35 pm
Okay---what supplements are you taking? Do you drink protein shakes? Has your doc suggested adding some digestive enzymes to help you get more out of your food? I realize that your don't have any malabsorption, but 'normal' people sometimes need these, too.

I would suggest consulting with an experienced revision surgeon. Not saying that I'm sure you need a revision, just that those guys have seen more people with problems.
marymother
on 3/2/10 5:52 pm - saint john, Canada
I have no answers nor have I suggestions. I have "lost " quite a few foods with my RNY and it does not matter how good they are for me I cannot eat them. I can not do the protein drinks either. Yuck, gag a maggot.

I am so sorry that you are having such a hard time with your sleeve. I do not think this is a common problem though. But me saying that does nothing to alleviate how you feel

I wish you the best and I sincerely hope you can find some more productive answers that what you have been told by your doctors so far. Being sick is no fun no matter what you weigh..
Higest weight       305 
weight surgery day  Feb 12 2009    251
Current weight     174    
First goal         199   Onederland ( Reached goal Aug 8 @ 198lbs)
Second goal   193    Century Club  ( Reached on Aug 30 2009 )
Third  goal      180 pounds  ( Reached on Nov.23 2009 ) (my personal goal)
Final goal      170 pounds  ( reached Jan 5 2011) ( only stayed that weight breifly)

I'm still maggie from the grove


maggielsmallcard.gif picture by lynnca1972     I LOVE MY RNY !!!

2 years down, a lifetime to go!!!!

LIVE, LAUGH, LOVE,  NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE