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    Not sure about this now.... (New to boards)

    Spent the weekend with my sister who had lapband done 2 years ago with no weight-loss.  She admits she is not good for following the program or taking time for herself.  One thing that bothered me all weekend was all the different sounds coming out of her body. I will say I was appalled at what she was eating...cookies, donuts, ice cream, shakes.  I didn't think you could do that with WLS. As far as the burping and tooting,  I don't think she was even aware of it but it would be a deal breaker for me.

    I am have diabeets and high triglycerides/cholesteral.  My main reason for wanting the surgery is to get of all/most meds and cPap machiine.  I think gatstric bypass or sleeve will be my best option and told lap band is not good for me from many of you.

    How many of you have problems with burping or gas after surgery?

    Please respond!  I have an appointment for information seminar and was really considering this after 2 years of thinking about it but now I am second guessing it.  I am a dental hygienist and around the public a lot.  I cannot have body sounds all day long....

    Thanks!

     Most of the body sounds are from eating carbs.  If you can stick to a high protein, low carb diet, the body sounds should not happen.  Lapband is notorious for failure to lose.  The sleeve is not the optimal choice for someone with diabetes because the change to the intestines that are believed to be the reason for the diabetes remission is not part of the sleeve.  Only RNY and DS have that component.
    You are not what you eat, you are what you think.
     RNY 10-17-2007.  Currently at goal weight.    
    I thought DS was the sleeve?  I thought I've had some tell me the sleeve is good because you dont get reactive hypoglycemia?
    On July 3, 2012 at 10:14 PM Pacific Time, ImDun wrote:
    I thought DS was the sleeve?  I thought I've had some tell me the sleeve is good because you dont get reactive hypoglycemia?
    Nope.

    The DS/duodenal switch has a sleeved stomach, PLUS an intestinal bypass which causes dramatic, permanent metabolic changes in the way your body deals with food. The DS is the form of WLS with the very BEST long-term, maintained weight loss, AND the very best stats for resolving or preventing things like diabetes and high cholesterol/triglycerides.

    Yes, both the Sleeve and the DS retain the pylorus, so the odds of your getting reactive hypoglycemia post-op are only slightly higher than if you never had surgery at all. (Any sort of surgery on your stomach slightly increases the odds of developing this condition.)

    Body sounds are largely diet-related. No matter which form of WLS you choose, you'll have to discover exactly what YOUR new body is happy with. For the first few months post-op, I burped more than before---but farted a LOT less. After about a year, I was pretty much back to 'normal' as far as body sounds went.
     DS is the Duodenal Switch which is the most extreme and most effective of the four commonly done surgeries.
    You are not what you eat, you are what you think.
     RNY 10-17-2007.  Currently at goal weight.    
    I have had success with my band but mostly because I surrendered to the fact that the band will not stop me from eating sweets.

    So, I chose to give up those foods. I don't have any self control over highly processed carbs so it is easier for me to have none than to try to eat them moderately.

    I don't have bodily noises ..occasional tiny burps after eating, but no excessive gas, gurgling or loud burping. I have a diminished appetite but am able to eat just about anything.

    Good luck with your choice, I hope you get the health benefits you are looking for.
    Kath

      
    Still in recovery, but I hiccup when I get full, and tiny little burps when I first drink. The air's gotta go somewhere. ;) I'm not talking Pumbaa-like burps, a passerby would hardly know.

    But holy junk food batman...you can make protein/gluten free ice cream, cake, even cookies...but you shouldn't have the real thing. There's just no point to filling your body with garbage...no room!

    RNY Date - June 29th 2012

    Gall Bladder out Jan 17 2013
      


    I have much less gas and burping now than before surgery.
    I burp if i drink to fast lol but im still only on just optifast and water 3 weeks past op
                
     My burps and hiccups are from eating to much to fast.  Gas isn't an issue for me.  It all will depend on you and your body and what you eat.
            
    The only time I have any problem is if I overdue the carbs. Other than that no issues.
    Katie 
    Ht. 5'2  HW 234/GW 150/LW 128/CW 132 
    Size 18/20 to a size 4 in 9 months!




    I'm a week post op from banding.  I find that I burp if I gulp too much or overfill at all.  Also, for me right now the gas is a welcome thing because I am trying to get my bowels back to regular.  But I would agree with others that it is your sister's diet that is causing all of the gas.  As a nurse and a teacher, I can tell you that with or without WLS the diet she has will give you gas!

                
     I have the DS, which is probably the most notorious for gas.  Yanno what?  I have a lot of control of this by what I eat.  The same goes for the rumble gut, too.  Once you know how certain foods affect you, you eat accordingly.  I was a corporate trainer, so noises and gas were a concern to me too.  I never had a problem with it.
    Valerie
    1 year to lose the weight - 6 years maintaining it with the DS
    There is room on this earth for all of God's creatures..next to the mashed potatoes

    I had the sleeve and love it. I find my stomach makes gurgly sounds when I eat most times. I am much much much less gassy now then I was before the surgery. I don't fart much at all anymore compared to before. I do hiccough about 5 minutes after I eat ( can't rely on this as a " I'm done , like some people have. Mine comes way too late) I tend to feel like burping when I am done eating. But it is like before- I don't have to burp. If I undereat my sleeve - I tend not to have the burpy feeling at all.

    HW 295 lbs,CW 195, nuts goal-210, my goal 175 surgery date April 3 in Tijuana with Dr Ponce De Leon      

    Sleeve and RnY have similar resolution rates for Type II diabetes. It doesn't require re-routing of the intestines. DS is about 10% higher on average though.

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    On July 4, 2012 at 2:49 PM Pacific Time, MacMadame wrote:
    Sleeve and RnY have similar resolution rates for Type II diabetes. It doesn't require re-routing of the intestines. DS is about 10% higher on average though.
    Not true. In a recent study comparing the remission rates of RNY, VSG and LB, the results were 41%, 26% and 7%. (http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-01-scientists-reassess-weight-loss-surgery.html)

    Also, from the most recent ASMBS Annual Meeting: "A new study shows that although gastric bypass surgery reverses Type 2 diabetes in a large percentage of obese patients, the disease recurs in about 21 percent of them within three to five years." (
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120625100924.htm
    )
    RNY to DS Revision 4/29/2011
    Dr. Henry Buchwald


    "Think twice.....Cut ONCE"
    You can't quote just one study. That's not how science works. If you could, then I'd quote that study that showed 100% of its sleeve subjects had 100% remission of Type II diabetes and run around saying that VSG cures diabetes 100% of the time. Except that would be silly because that's not how studies work.

    If you look at a lot of studies overall and look at averages, you can see that co-morbidity resolution rates and also weight loss stats are very similar between RnY and VSG.

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    Since you want more than one study, here is another.  And, bypassing the duodenum is the primary reason there is a reduction in Type II diabetes in RNY.  The duodenum is not bypassed with the sleeve, hence they would not share comparable results. 

    Click on the diabetes tab on this link comparing the 3 surgeries (not including DS).
    http://www.realize.com/surgical-weight-loss-options-comparis on.htm

    And for those thinking it is biased because it is Realize, the results are from Endo-Ethicon which manufactures surgical instruments for all three surgeries.  They make more money from the Realize band yet it posts the least favorable results.

    And here are some that show that VSG has a surprising effect on Diabetes even though there is no bypass:

    http://www.springerlink.com/content/0r756712302k0534/

    Conclusion:
    Our data show that at 12 months after surgery, SG is as effective as GBP in inducing remission of T2DM and the MS. Furthermore, our data suggest that SG and GBP represent a successful an integrated strategy for the management of the different cardiovascular risk components of the MS in subjects with T2DM.

    And one that compared Band, Sleeve and RnY:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19866235

    And this one concludes:

    Our results do not support the idea that the proximal small intestine mediates the improvement in glucose homeostasis.

    Another one showing it's not just the weight loss that improves the diabetes:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916040?itool=EntrezSyst em2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordin alpos=36

    "The results of the present study confirm that a hormonal mechanism may contribute to changes in insulin resistance following SG."
       

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    This page contains SEVERAL studies re: DS and diabetes.  http://www.dsfacts.com/Type-2-Diabetes-Cure.html

    They are finally conducting clinical trials in the US using the intestinal portion of the DS (without the partial gastrectomy) on people that are not overweight to cure diabetes.