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    mandiemac
    Member Since: 09/02/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: Can someone help with posting pictures please?
    Does anyone know how to add pictures to my profile?  I have been trying but it tells me it is too big.  I would love to show my face on the forum.  Thanks
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    Laura M.
    Canandaigua, NY
    Duodenal Switch (12/15/09)
    Member Since: 06/30/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: WARNING TO PRE-OPS: Think twice, cut once -- or else!
    Hijack --->   Kerry, I just LOVE your new avi!  You are so handsome!!!!    (And I'm speaking from the "other team" if ya know what I mean!)  Barb is one lucky girl!!!  

    Laura M. - I want my DS!!! 

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    marnette31
    Member Since: 08/16/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Slow Loser Support Thread. R U a Slow loser? Come on in.
    I, too, had surgery on 10/14/09 by Dr. Moran.  I have been stuck at 30 lbs since week #3.  I walk, use the exercise bike, and I barely eat.  I don't have much of an appetite but I think it's psychological.  I'm somewhat scared to eat.  I cannot tolerate the protein drinks so I know I'm not getting enough protein.  I had a few stebacks those first 3 1/2 weeks and I think that's why I'm scared to eat.  I was 275 before surgery and I'm 5ft 3in.  I'm hoping that I will start losing again because this can get discouraging but I refuse to give up!!!
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    Michelle H.
    TX
    Member Since: 08/04/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: big medicine
    It's coming on again today 11/22, 12:00 PM Central. It's titled Extreme Obesity: A Big Medicine Special.

    Big Medicine thread:
    http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/amos/4066562/Thanks-for-Watching-BIG-MEDICINE/

    Best of luck to you, whatever direction you take in your journey.
    "The road to success is always under construction." - Lily Tomlin
              HW: 436, Start wt: 413 (7/20/09), Goal: -200. RNY 10/7/09 at 362 (-51).
        
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    Chad65
    San Angelo, TX
    Member Since: 10/30/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Lap band revision to bypass
    The Best WLS is no WLS
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    Laura M.
    Canandaigua, NY
    Duodenal Switch (12/15/09)
    Member Since: 06/30/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery
    Thanks Chad!!!  Always right to the point......    

    Laura M. - I want my DS!!! 

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    danas
    CA
    Duodenal Switch
    Member Since: 02/05/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: WARNING TO PRE-OPS: Think twice, cut once -- or else!
    On November 20, 2009 at 7:17 PM Pacific Time, DianaCox wrote:
    Dont'cha just love the idiots who post a nasty post to someone and then immediately block them?  Guess what, you wasted your time, because all I got was the notice in my email:

    Darlene G.'s reply was:
     Actually, I am pre-op.  Still going through 6-month insurance-required prep.  Which you could have found out if you made an effort to talk TO people, not preach AT them.  Or read signatures, profiles,...

    Well, my bad -- I got you confused with a couple of the other idiot post-ops on this thread.  But trust me, I won't miss seeing your posts either.  Why would I make an effort to get to know YOU in the first place with your snarky and ignorant comments?  You're a lost cause anyway.

    Good luck with the RNY your supposed DS surgeon is going to talk you into -- because it would be better for YOU, not because he actually doesn't do the DS, of course!

    You were warned -- after that, you're on your own.

    Someone, please quote me so Darlene sees this.
    Here ya go.
    Won against big bad (SoCal) Kaiser for a Duodenal Switch  Haven't heard of DS? Kaiser wants it that way. Come on over & read the truth.
    02/12/09 - Dr. refused to refer me for WLS
    03/03/09 - Vented/whined about it on another board, planned to just wait until next year & switch plans
    03/05/09 - Chris (Crazeru ) emailed me a plan of action 
    03/07/09 - First grievance to be put into Bariatric's mailed...
    Let's see what happens!  **updates in blog**
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    danas
    CA
    Duodenal Switch
    Member Since: 02/05/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: reflux issues....which surgery is best?
    RNY is supposed to be the best with fixing reflux.
    Won against big bad (SoCal) Kaiser for a Duodenal Switch  Haven't heard of DS? Kaiser wants it that way. Come on over & read the truth.
    02/12/09 - Dr. refused to refer me for WLS
    03/03/09 - Vented/whined about it on another board, planned to just wait until next year & switch plans
    03/05/09 - Chris (Crazeru ) emailed me a plan of action 
    03/07/09 - First grievance to be put into Bariatric's mailed...
    Let's see what happens!  **updates in blog**
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    Laura M.
    Canandaigua, NY
    Duodenal Switch (12/15/09)
    Member Since: 06/30/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery
    O.    M.    G.!!!!!!        That is too effing

    awesome!!!!!!!!!!   I want that for my avi when I'm post-op!!!!    Fan******tastic!!!!!!  

    Laura M. - I want my DS!!! 

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    Laura M.
    Canandaigua, NY
    Duodenal Switch (12/15/09)
    Member Since: 06/30/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery

    Laura M. - I want my DS!!! 

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    nursygirl
    San Jose,, CA
    Member Since: 08/13/05
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: An apple pie recipe needed
    I make applesauce with my apples....core, peel,slice and bake with a couple of dashes of apple pie spice, a little bit of splenda and a bit of water.  I sometimes even omit the splenda.

    bake at 375 degrees F for 30-45 minutes if you have time.  If you don't, cook on stove top approx. 20-25 minutes.

    Delish!

    Anjanette

    "Never let the fear of striking out get in the way of trying" George Herman "Babe" Ruth

    No excuses....just do it!

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    DianaCox
    San Jose, CA
    Duodenal Switch (08/05/03)
    Member Since: 12/22/02
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: WARNING TO PRE-OPS: Think twice, cut once -- or else!
    Yup, we thrive on anger and conflict -- and you posted here WHY??

    I want to thank you for your continuing campaign of posting on these DS threads, in particular ones that are NOT DIRECTED TO YOU as being too late for this thread to help -- but every time you do, you INCREASE our hit and post count, thus making the post more interesting to newbies to read.  So THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT of exactly what I am trying to do.

    You finger wagging, regretful hungry newbie.  Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out the door!

    As for you pre-ops, if you want to get REALLY scared, go take a look at the Revisions forum: http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/revision/  You won't see many DSers posting about needing a revision, but HOO BOY, look at all the RNYer and Lapbanders there!

    DSers: PAY IT FORWARD!  High wt/current/post-recon goal: 293/169/160
    My posts disseminating information about the DS are intended for pre-ops and potential revision patients only.  If something I write offends you, in particular, if you are a post-op from a non-DS WLS that I am comparing unfavorably to the DS, remember your reaction is your choice.  Use the block button if my posts upset you.  6+years out, I eat 3000+ calories/day, absorb less than half of that (high protein, high fat) and I'm still losing weight very slowly.  You can't beat that with a stick! Come learn more on the DS Forum Message Board. 

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    M.S. W.
    NORWALK, CT
    Member Since: 10/26/03
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: She Ate Like a Pig!
      @ So, for me, I can anticipate at least 30 years of daily dam-building. But it's worth it to stay healthy and live a long and enjoyable life!

    From my perspective, without this attitude its all point less.  You may loose the weight but you'll never gain control.  
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    DianaCox
    San Jose, CA
    Duodenal Switch (08/05/03)
    Member Since: 12/22/02
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: She Ate Like a Pig!
    What she DOESN'T need is a so-called friend who thinks she is disgusting and eats like a pig.  Your own doubts and fears about your own success will also be obvious.  I would leave her the hell alone if you want to be kind -- your OWN head isn't in a place where you can be of any help to her -- if anything, you would likely make her feel worse.  At the most, what you should do is keep your mouth shut and try to be a good example (if you can be), and wait for HER to broach the subject with you.  NO WAY should you try to foist your opinions about her weight gain on her unbidden.

    Her problem may well be that SHE HAD THE WRONG SURGERY.  I know I could not have made the RNY work for me.  But the DS has helped me lose and keep off the weight without dieting for over SIX YEARS.

    DSers: PAY IT FORWARD!  High wt/current/post-recon goal: 293/169/160
    My posts disseminating information about the DS are intended for pre-ops and potential revision patients only.  If something I write offends you, in particular, if you are a post-op from a non-DS WLS that I am comparing unfavorably to the DS, remember your reaction is your choice.  Use the block button if my posts upset you.  6+years out, I eat 3000+ calories/day, absorb less than half of that (high protein, high fat) and I'm still losing weight very slowly.  You can't beat that with a stick! Come learn more on the DS Forum Message Board. 

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    MissMaryMac
    Maple Grove, MN
    Member Since: 04/24/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: why did I eat noodles?

    I'm not sure why you're so disappointed...   if you're not barfing or in pain, your pouch is fine. They are little tiny limp noodles...

    If you're concerned, just strain out the noodles first -- or make soup without noodles.

    I craved salt early on too and i ordered pickle pops -- they were a life saver :)  Who doen'st love frozen pickle juice?  (http://www.bobspicklepop.com)

    Don'[t be so hard on yourself... its not going to work if you freak out every time you take a bite of something you know you shouldn't.  I decided that for me, I was not going to make myself feel deprived -- but I limit what I eat.  For example, I might eat a nice dinner of shrimp or scallops, a little cauliflower or squash and then have a single bite of whatever dessert they are serving.  It get to taste it, I don't feel deprived and that one bite is enough.  Knowing I'll dump if I eat much more is a great deterrent.

    PS Unjury makes chicken soup protein that is good - and doesn't have noodles if you just don't trust yourself :)

    MissMaryMac - My blog where I babble about my progress and store recipes.
    PouchiePoo - Simon's (my pouch) blog - I'm a dork but I hope its useful!

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    Laura M.
    Canandaigua, NY
    Duodenal Switch (12/15/09)
    Member Since: 06/30/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery

    Laura M. - I want my DS!!! 

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    teshanelson1
    Dallas, TX
    Member Since: 10/16/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Not many responding.. please give me info on your surgery
    i thank you should go with the sleeve b/c i'v read up alot about it .Like with the lap band you will have to have fills and with rny you will have your intestiens switch all up so ,that my opinion.
    be wise and do whats bests for you.
      

    CONGRATS ,And i wi**** was me but my turn will come as for now i must wait and save my money for mexico.

                                                  GoooodLUCK Girl ,
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    MissMaryMac
    Maple Grove, MN
    Member Since: 04/24/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Not many responding.. please give me info on your surgery
    Wow I'm suprised you can get approved at all with only 60 pounds - mine would have been declined.  I needed to lose 130 and mine still took 14 months to get approved.

    Anyway, I decided to have RNY.  I considered lap band but I knew myself and I needed the restriction. I did not choose DS for several reasons but I won't list them because that laways turns into a debate on here.

    I'm glad I did it -- my goal was to reverse my diabetes, which it did within 24 hours of surgery. No more meds or insulin, A1c normal now, cholesterol good and even my PCOS symptoms have drastically improved.  Best thing I ever did and I truly believe it saved my life.

    For what its worth, I am 7 months out and have had no problems at all.  I can pretty much eat anything - however I do know that I dump if eat more than 10g sugar in a meal.  Learned that once by accident, never done it again.  Never had something get stuck, no stricture -- its been pretty uneventful so far *knock on wood*

    Good luck with your decision.

    MissMaryMac - My blog where I babble about my progress and store recipes.
    PouchiePoo - Simon's (my pouch) blog - I'm a dork but I hope its useful!

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    Laura M.
    Canandaigua, NY
    Duodenal Switch (12/15/09)
    Member Since: 06/30/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery
    Not enough to warrant any kind of corporate charity sponsorship..... 

    Like Jenna said, DSers might choose to eat their products (as opposed to generic brands or other brands - no guarantee which brand of meat products we'll buy), we still will eat those foods in a significantly smaller quantity than we could pre-op. Yes, more than someone who's had the RNY or certainly lapband, because those people are on low-fat diets.  But DSers would still be eating those high fat foods in a very low quantity, thus the long term success of the DS.  Both restrictive and malabsorptive.........

    Laura M. - I want my DS!!! 

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    DianaCox
    San Jose, CA
    Duodenal Switch (08/05/03)
    Member Since: 12/22/02
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Not many responding.. please give me info on your surgery
    Since you have the great good fortune to live in California, even if your insurance company tries to tell you that the DS isn't covered, it is almost certainly NOT true, if you have a fully-funded plan that was delivered to a CA employer -- if you appeal to the CA Dept. of Managed Health Care, you will almost certainly win an appeal (I only say almost to cover my ass, because the DMHC has been almost without exception in one or two cases sine 2004 NOT ordered an insurance company to pay for the DS).

    You owe it to yourself to include the DS in your reseearch, and then if you decide it is what you want, you can get help -- for free -- in winning your appeal if your insurance company says they don't cover it.

    I am 6+ years out, and still THRILLED with my DS.  I eat pretty much what I want, with some care about simple carbs and when I eat white flour products, eat 90-100 g protein every day, eat fat with no care whatsoevery, take my vitamins religiously, do my labs regularly and adjust my supplements if necessary.  I lost most of my weight without carefully watching my carbs, and even now lose a pound here and there -- no bounceback whatsoever.  I am currently undergoing reconstructive surgeries to remove the excess skin, so my weight is a little unclear right now -- I started the surgeries at about 171, and my PS says I should end up around 158.  Not too shabby for someone who eats 3000 cal/day, including all the bacon, full fat mayo, salad dressing, etc., that I want.

    DSers: PAY IT FORWARD!  High wt/current/post-recon goal: 293/169/160
    My posts disseminating information about the DS are intended for pre-ops and potential revision patients only.  If something I write offends you, in particular, if you are a post-op from a non-DS WLS that I am comparing unfavorably to the DS, remember your reaction is your choice.  Use the block button if my posts upset you.  6+years out, I eat 3000+ calories/day, absorb less than half of that (high protein, high fat) and I'm still losing weight very slowly.  You can't beat that with a stick! Come learn more on the DS Forum Message Board. 

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    MissMaryMac
    Maple Grove, MN
    Member Since: 04/24/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: This Juice is great has anyone else tried it?
    Another good one is Diety V8 Splash...

    MissMaryMac - My blog where I babble about my progress and store recipes.
    PouchiePoo - Simon's (my pouch) blog - I'm a dork but I hope its useful!

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    Laura M.
    Canandaigua, NY
    Duodenal Switch (12/15/09)
    Member Since: 06/30/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery


    And don't call me Shirley.  (I know Jenna beat me to it, but it's one of those instinctive responses that can't be helped and must be said!!!)  

    Laura M. - I want my DS!!! 

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    M.S. W.
    NORWALK, CT
    Member Since: 10/26/03
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: She Ate Like a Pig!
    You've been working this tool for awhile so she can't run the newbies just don't know crap on you.  She knows exactly how she got where she is now and the choice was hers. 

    She had to work to be able to consume so much at once if she had rny.  We know techniques improve continually and recent post ops have that advantage.  However, she knows better than to eat more than a kids meal portion.  Ever.  The surgery gives us a window for great changes but we each have to internalize and live those changes.  Forever. 

    She has a tool and she will use it if she is ready before she lets obesity kill her.  Her issues may be well beyond anything you could say to her unless she wants motivation.  She's sadly self destructive and on a suicide mission.     Food seems to be a go to for some major issues.  Until she gets her head together she won't succeed long term. 
      MSW   5' 4" tall * High 285lbs BMI 48.9 *  Ideal 131lbs BMI 22.5  
    Pre op 237.5lbs BMI 40.8 to Goal 140lbs BMI 24.0: 97.5lbs excess body fat
                  
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    Jackie H.
    Erie, PA
    Member Since: 02/10/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Is this the way it will be?
    That's what I figured - I just wanted to clarify that for other people who might take it as woman bashing (i.e. only women get WLS to please other people).
        
        
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    kwseibert
    Stow, OH
    Member Since: 05/26/05
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Is this the way it will be?
    You are correct - It is an open letter for men and woman
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    Jackie H.
    Erie, PA
    Member Since: 02/10/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery
    If you really miss bacon, my husband makes a veggie-bacon out of tempeh that's pretty damn good. PM me if you want the recipe!
        
        
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    Tenorwb
    NJ
    Duodenal Switch (12/31/08)
    Member Since: 10/12/06
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery
    Bacon Boobs!!!  Now, THAT is what I call Comfort Food!!! 

    To teach something is to have it.  To have something you must be it.   Teach peace, for that is what you are.
     

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    Jackie H.
    Erie, PA
    Member Since: 02/10/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Is this the way it will be?
    First, I'm so sorry you're going through this. It's a shame that she's feeling resentful towards you when you've done such an amazing job at improving your own health and self-worth.

    Now, you're warning women about having surgery in hopes of improving their desirability to their spouse. Shouldn't you be warning everyone? It seems to me that your main motivating factor in having the WLS was to improve your marriage, and based on your picture, you're a male, correct?

    If you had other reasons for having the surgery, the best way to improve your self-confidence, self-worth and overall well-being (even without your wife) is to rekindle those motivations and keep striving forward. If you did it to improve your health, take a look at the health improvements you have made. If you did it so you could shop at any store without having to special order a pair of pants, take a look and enjoy the fact that you no longer have to do that.

    It was your wife's choice to feel resentful towards your weight loss, not yours. That's the horrible thing about us humans - we're able to choose to feel certain ways, regardless of how those choices affect others.

    I applaud you (and your wife) for going to counseling to try to work this out. But you know, sometimes that just isn't enough. Sometimes it takes something like changing yourself 100% in a new direction to figure out who your true friends and supporters really are.

    I wish you much happiness in the days to come, whether that is with your wife, by yourself or with someone new.

    Keep your head up, and if you think it will help, try one-on-one counseling to work through this slump.
        
        
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    DianaCox
    San Jose, CA
    Duodenal Switch (08/05/03)
    Member Since: 12/22/02
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery
    Oh, and by the way, I DO eat about 1/2 lb of bacon (pre-cooked weight) almost every morning -- it is an excellent source of protein.  But after years of dieting and eating low fat (like YOU should -- shame on you and your pepperoni habit!), life is too short to eat crappy bacon -- I get my GOOD bacon from the deli -- thick cut, maplewood cured, not Jimmy Dean or Hormel.

    In fact, here's my breakfast facts:

    2 jumbo eggs, fried in butter:
    Calories: 222
    Calories I absorb: 68 (of which 9 g or 36 calories are protein I absorb)
     
    1/2 lb. bacon, precooked:
    Calories: 338 (after cooking)
    Calories I absorb:  111 (of which 16 g or 64 calories are protein I absorb)

    My breakfast if you eat it: 560 calories
    My breakfast when I eat it: 179 calories

    READ IT AND WEEP.

    DSers: PAY IT FORWARD!  High wt/current/post-recon goal: 293/169/160
    My posts disseminating information about the DS are intended for pre-ops and potential revision patients only.  If something I write offends you, in particular, if you are a post-op from a non-DS WLS that I am comparing unfavorably to the DS, remember your reaction is your choice.  Use the block button if my posts upset you.  6+years out, I eat 3000+ calories/day, absorb less than half of that (high protein, high fat) and I'm still losing weight very slowly.  You can't beat that with a stick! Come learn more on the DS Forum Message Board. 

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    candidbliss_50
    Snellville, GA
    Member Since: 06/08/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: BLACKS & Support Groups?
    Excellent post! Ignore all negativity. I here you competely. Actually this post was for me. I am almost 5 months post op and haven't went to one meeting. I have always wanted to. Recently, i've been thinking there essential for long term success. I get consumed with my busy schedule and the meetings are about 25 mile away so that's discouraging. But i realize that support is needed as i have two family members that are post op vets 7 plus years out, one has regained atleast 100 and the other maybe 40. I want to do things different, i want to be a success. So i've made up my mind to make the first meeting next week. I could inspire people. I'm 4 1/2 months post op with almost 90 pounds gone. Though i'm still 280, i'm walking 5 miles and just started jogging parts of the way. I have to do things smart in order to be a succes. Thanks alot for this post.
    SHAY~LICIOUS
    Surround yourself with positive influences in your life and eliminate the negative. You will find that your life grows abundantly when you have order. Don't let past circumstances affect your future. The world is moving, The roads been paved so don't stand still take hold of what's rightfully yours. YOUR DESTINY! WE ARE EXTRAORDINARY BECAUSE OF HIS MAGNIFICIENT DESIGN.
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    kwseibert
    Stow, OH
    Member Since: 05/26/05
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: Is this the way it will be?
    I am officially done. 

    I have lost 170 lbs and I no longer can put a smile on my face.  My spouse is resentful and we stopped communicating. We do talk but nothing else.  I used to be able to eat  to comfort myself but no more.   WLS  will help with the outside but nothing  will fix underlying issues.  There is an elephant in the room and we walk and talk around it.

    WOMEN/MEN - before you have surgery,  ask yourself "Does my spouse want/desire me anymore?" If  you are doing this because you hope your  significant other will love and desire you, DON'T.   I learned too late.  We had issues before because of intimacy, but because of the WLS, she finds that she  is threatened.   There is more to the story as always but men need to feel wanted, loved and desired.  I know that you will say that  this is the same for woman. 

    We all want to be held and loved!  And yes, we have seen a counselor,

    Lonely and wish I could stop hurting.
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    punkalicious8
    Member Since: 09/14/08
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: BLACKS & Support Groups?
    Ok. I'm not trying to be dumb or ignorant, I just have a question out of curiosity. How is obesity viewed in the African American community? And why would your family and friends try to talk you out of it if you are choosing to improve your health?
        
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    Mishelle R.
    Member Since: 01/29/08
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: An apple pie recipe needed
    bet you can use carbquick for the crust though i don't know. but I can tell you how to make it sugar free

    soak apples in sal****er for half hour,  then soak them in no sugar added fruit juice.

    in crust put in corn starch - dash cinnamon - a small pat of butter (or omit we always put that in to make the "gravy" part of the apple pie) - apples, cinnamon, couple splenda packets if needing extra sweet.

     Then top layer of crust - cut in strips if you want to use less crust on top.

    bake like you would normally for an apple pie


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    Deedles
    Highlands, TX
    Member Since: 11/20/08
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Is this normal....& help please!!
    If you haven't had a BM in 10 days I'd start now taking stool softeners, Dulcolax or Colace. I was told my first 2 weeks not to worry, I wasn't eating enough to make any poo, etc. By the 15th day ssince my BM in the hospital I was bloated and blocked up. Talk about miserable! If you want the details PM me, I'll just say I was to the point of going to the ER before the enemas and other things started working.

    It all depends on the fluid I get a day. I take 3 stool softeners a day, Benefiber at least once a day depending on the fiber I get from food, and I've started taking magnesium. As long as I get my water in, I go regularly every day.
    Dee .....
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    “Your body keeps an accurate journal regardless of what you write down.”  ~~Anonymous~~

    Includes 61lbs lost before surgery

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    Bonamy
    Wyoming County, NY
    Member Since: 12/12/08
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: I am wondering...

    If you get the RNY and do not follow through with life style changes you can stretch out the pouch or the stoma.    I have a cousin that did RNY and ate the wrong foods constantly and gained it all back and then some.  But for every person that fails two or more are successful depending on which surgery you look at.

    The surgery is a tool, it will help you not to overeat by making you uncomfortable and sick if you go too far.  If you don't resolve whatever triggered overeating and continually push the limits you will become less sensitive to the pain of being over full and stretch yourself out and gain the weight back.

    Weight loss surgery is not a decision to make lightly.  You need to want the health benefits of the surgery more than the temporary gratification of over indulging to properly work the tool.

     

     HW 365/SW321

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    DianaCox
    San Jose, CA
    Duodenal Switch (08/05/03)
    Member Since: 12/22/02
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery
    Hello, my newest deranged and starving stalker!  Here's a little DS math and history for you to enjoy and become even more jealous about.  And once again, thank you for providing yet another opportunity to spread the good news about the DS!

    http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/amos/3497583/DS-math/

    You may be wondering how DSers can eat 3000+ calories per day and not gain weight.  Some people also seem to have difficulty understanding why our arteries aren't clogging up, since most of us eat about 50% of our calories as fat.  And my personal favorite is the accusations that we are eating like pigs at a trough or somesuch.  For those of you who are genuinely interested, this is how the DS works.

    I (and many if not most DS post-ops over 2 years out) eat about 3000 cal/day most days.  But we don't absorb that much, of course.  This is the "magic" and the pleasure of how the DS works, and why it works.  The mathmatics of malabsorption look something like this:

    I always get about 100 g of protein/day (and NONE of it makes me puke or foam or gets stuck, and I have NEVER had protein shake -- since surgery, I have eaten all my protein as FOOD).  100 g of protein x 4 cal/g = 400 cal eaten; x 0.6 (60% of protein absorbed) = 240 cal from protein absorbed.

    Since I eat at least 50% of my calories as fat (full fat mayo to my heart's content; butter with my seafood and veggies; full fat salad dressing, and lots of it, with my salads and veggie dips; nice marbled meats including steak, bacon and crispy chicken skin), let's call it 1530 calories which equals 170 g of fat (fat is 9 cal/g) to make the math easier.  But I absorb only 20% of the fat I eat, for only 306 cal from fat absorbed.

    So, fat + protein eaten = 1930 calories of the 3000 I eat per day.  That leaves 1070 cal or  267.5 g of carbs (4 cal/g).  But I only absorb about 60% of complex carbs.  I have to account for sugar first, because I do absorb 100% of sugars -- I would guestimate that I eat about 50 g of sugar/day x 4 cal/g for 200 calories from sugar absorbed; of the remaining 870 calories of complex carbs x 0.6 (60% absorbed) = 522 cal from complex carbs absorbed.

    So, my ABSORBED calories from 3000 ingested calories (eating 100 g of protein, about 50% fat and the rest carbs) is:

     240 cal protein
     306 cal fat
     200 cal sugars
     522 cal complex carbs
    1268 calories absorbed per day from eating 3000 cal

    And that is why I (and other DSers) can eat like that, not exercise, and still be either maintaining or losing weight.  It doesn't suck!

    DSers: PAY IT FORWARD!  High wt/current/post-recon goal: 293/169/160
    My posts disseminating information about the DS are intended for pre-ops and potential revision patients only.  If something I write offends you, in particular, if you are a post-op from a non-DS WLS that I am comparing unfavorably to the DS, remember your reaction is your choice.  Use the block button if my posts upset you.  6+years out, I eat 3000+ calories/day, absorb less than half of that (high protein, high fat) and I'm still losing weight very slowly.  You can't beat that with a stick! Come learn more on the DS Forum Message Board. 

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    Deedles
    Highlands, TX
    Member Since: 11/20/08
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: SF Syrup question
    I'm not a coffee drinker either. I just finished a mug of Swiss Miss Diet chocolate, Nectar unflavored protein and 2 T of SF Amaretto. I'm finding I love hot protein drinks so I'm drinking alot of Pam T's Chai Tea and to change it up a bit I'll add various syrups to it. Add it to Greek yogurt, cream of wheat and oatmeal, and I have a friend who adds vanilla to her bowl of cereal every morning.
    Dee .....
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    “Your body keeps an accurate journal regardless of what you write down.”  ~~Anonymous~~

    Includes 61lbs lost before surgery

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    epa1968
    Jensen Beach, FL
    Member Since: 12/07/05
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: Drs. Larson and Simon at JFK Bariatric Center in FL
    Planning to use this center and choose one of these MDs thanks to my new insurance carrier as of 1/1/10.  Does anyone have recent experience with them?  I think I'm going lap band but am open minded and will consider other options.  Would actually prefer the gastric sleeve however, not covered by Cigna for my employer.  Thanks for any comments.
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    Jackie H.
    Erie, PA
    Member Since: 02/10/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery

    I'm not a meat eater, but I know plenty of people who have had the RNY and eat pepperoni all the time! I think she's just ~special~...as in "she must ride the short bus".

        
        
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    DianaCox
    San Jose, CA
    Duodenal Switch (08/05/03)
    Member Since: 12/22/02
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Sponsors of DS Surgery

    She's a sad, lonely, HUNGRY girl who alternates between pepperoni ****a binges and pepperoni withdrawal.  She has recently realized that pepperoni is DS-friendly food and she's been going MAD with the realization that SHE MADE A MISTAKE in not getting a DS.

    DSers: PAY IT FORWARD!  High wt/current/post-recon goal: 293/169/160
    My posts disseminating information about the DS are intended for pre-ops and potential revision patients only.  If something I write offends you, in particular, if you are a post-op from a non-DS WLS that I am comparing unfavorably to the DS, remember your reaction is your choice.  Use the block button if my posts upset you.  6+years out, I eat 3000+ calories/day, absorb less than half of that (high protein, high fat) and I'm still losing weight very slowly.  You can't beat that with a stick! Come learn more on the DS Forum Message Board. 

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    punkalicious8
    Member Since: 09/14/08
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: She Ate Like a Pig!
    This whole thing is awful scary to me. I just cannot imagine putting myself through the tortures of major surgery to give up and fall back to the old habits that got me to the WLS surgery point. It's very sad. I hope she figures out what is going on with her psychologically.
        
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    debilc
    Oak Harbor, WA
    Member Since: 09/28/08
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: How can I help my wife?
    Just let her know you believe in her when she has a bad day just tell her not to give up you know she can do it.  Never tell her well you tried all these diets and none of them worked so you are doomed.  Or something like that.  Anyway just be her steady supportive rock. 
    A bad day Quilting is better than a good day at work. 
    Besides Quilting has no calories no fat no icky taste. 
    Start Weight 207 SW 172 CW140 GW 115

     
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    Deedles
    Highlands, TX
    Member Since: 11/20/08
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: How can I help my wife?
    You sound like my husband, he was a police officer for over 25yrs and it bothered him that he couldn't 'fix it'. He had no control over not only the surgery but anything I would have to go through. But he has survived!

    He's been a wonderful support system for me. He's ready several of the books I have, he's especially been interested in understanding the mental aspects of it all. He really wanted to understand those hormonal changes someone else mentioned, and the work I would have to do to change my way of thinking. It's the daily things he does that means so much to me. From the time I started my required 6mo diet, he ate the same thing I did. When he'd get hungry for things I couldn't have he'd conveniently have those things for lunch, he's never made me feel like my dieting was depriving him of anything...still doesn't. He goes to the support meetings with me whenever possible.

    After the surgery he's been right there making sure I have what I need and am getting my requirements of fluids and proteins. From the beginning there has been small containers of 'my' food in the 'fridge, starting with soups and yogurts. And even now there's things I can eat that are easy to grab and fix. He asked that I seperate what I needed from what was free food....his term! He's so afraid of eating something I had set aside for me, as if I'll starve! But it just goes to show once again he's put me first, as he always has. If we're going anywhere for more than a couple of hours, he packs a cooler with water, jerky, nuts, etc.....snacks I can eat in case we get delayed. All this is done before I even get the chance!

    It's all the little things he does that shows his love and support. My life is so much easier knowing I have his undivided support. He told me early on that this was OUR journey, not just mine. And he's proven he meant that over and over again. I never thought this surgery would bring us even closer together but it has. As I've had to really learn about my inner self, sharing what I've learned with him has also brought about him to learning things about himself. We really are taking this journey together. It's not always easy for me to share my feelings and thoughts but he's always patient ad waits for me to come to it in my own sweet time. Knowing he's there at the end of the line makes it lots easier!

    Your wife is very lucky to have you in her corner. I wish you both Good Luck.
    Dee .....
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    “Your body keeps an accurate journal regardless of what you write down.”  ~~Anonymous~~

    Includes 61lbs lost before surgery

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    ~~Theresa Marie~~
    Closing in on SkinnyVille, VA
    Member Since: 01/29/08
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: An apple pie recipe needed
    We bought about 1/2 bushel of apples to support our local Boy Scout troop. I figured I'd eat them with peanut butter or just as a snack but of course, since they are right there, I don't want them. I want to use them or some of them before they rot.

    Any one have a recipe for an apple pie. Preferably a WLS recipe, please. Thanks for any help given!!

    Theresa Marie
    Theresa Marie
    Lap RNY  - April 30, 2008
    356/297.5/152.5/170/150 - consult/surgery morn/
    now/dr goal/my goal
    Skinnyville is NO longer miles away...  It's a mere walk to the corner!!


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    shadonna1027
    houston, TX
    Member Since: 10/15/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: big medicine
    did anyone see big medicine. i looked for it but could not find it.
    My story: Hi my name is ShaDonna. currently 10/19/2009 I weigh 272 pounds. I was just approved for the RNY.  I am a little scared but I am going to remain positive. Life is what we make it. We can't get those years back so my advice to everyone: Ball til u Fall - Peace 
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    christi R.
    NW, OH
    Member Since: 05/28/05
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: Slow Loser Support Thread. R U a Slow loser? Come on in.
    My name is Christi, and I am a slow loser . I had RNY on 9/2/09 and I have lost 39 lbs. It has been frustrating, but I am trying to stay off the scale and focus on what I need to do. I can handle losing slowly, but I am afraid that I won't lose all I need to. My doctor never set a goal for me--he just said that I should be a good candidate to lose 80-140 lbs. Well, that is quite a range! I am 5'7" and I was 269 on my day of surgery. Today I weigh 230. Good luck fellow slow losers:)
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    debilc
    Oak Harbor, WA
    Member Since: 09/28/08
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: I am wondering...
    You are right there it is so confusing.  We all had the same issues as far as being obese with problems or without we have all been there.  The surgery that you chose is personal to you and you alone.  I think we should just all get along because we all have that common thread.  I am happy that I have this site to find out information.  I do not want to be bullied or put down for what surgery I have had.  I am just thankful that I had my surgery.  God bless you and anyone brave and smart enough to seek help.  As far as the weight gain that again is up to the individual person on how they use or abuse there tool.  I figured I went thought all of this I do not want it to be for nothing.  So I will keep on the fight not to gain back.  I wish you well.  Really research it and find out what is best for you.  Your doctor will know which one is the right one.  Then you will chose.  Hugs Debi
    A bad day Quilting is better than a good day at work. 
    Besides Quilting has no calories no fat no icky taste. 
    Start Weight 207 SW 172 CW140 GW 115

     
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    shepkatt
    Coronado, CA
    Member Since: 09/04/03
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: BariatricTV Episode 55 - MEAT!
    Thanks for subscribing!    We have been around a bit over a year now and are having a great time.

    I am a mom to a Katie as well..
    ~lynnda

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    shepkatt
    Coronado, CA
    Member Since: 09/04/03
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: RE: BariatricTV Episode 55 - MEAT!
    Go to bariatriceating.com.. I am not sure if they have samples of that protein but if they do - that's where you would get it.  :-)
    ~lynnda

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    Alk3Momma
    North Barrington, IL
    Member Since: 10/26/09
    [Latest Posts]

    Topic: I am wondering...
    I joined OH a month ago. I was wondering why it seems alot of people who had one surgery is always calling out the other surgeries and say they dont work? I was told that not one surgery is meant for all. Thats why there are options. I am in the process if having RNY. I have seen great results on this website. I was wondering why people say its pointless that you will gain all the weight  back. If that were true wouldnt they stop doing it? I dunno I get soo confused by reading these boards...
    nee'
               ~*While we try to teach our children all about life, Our children teach us what life is all about.*~
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