Healthy Nut J.’s Posts

    Topic: RE: Only just the start...let's get real.

    My friend, Dee, is truly an inspiration. I lost my mother when I was five. Dee stepped in and helped in so many ways, teaching, guiding and advising. I talk to her every day and tell her almost everything. Her affirmation means a lot to me. My daughter—She is so precious and so tormented about her weight. It was easier when I was heavy too. Now I am not and she is trying deal with it. My husband and I have proceeded with great caution to avoid any tendency toward an eating disorder. She has had thorough work-ups in the medical community to eliminate any obvious metabolic issues that may be the cause. I blame myself for giving her my “fat gene”. She isn’t ready to take any real action, so we just try to lead by gentle example in our food and activity choices. I know it bothers her, especially as we reach the end of the misses clothes rack in sizes. I am sad with her and empathize. I hate that her childhood is plagued by this. Thanks again for getting me thinking…Hugs and peace to you! 

    JoAnne
          
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    Topic: RE: Only just the start...let's get real.

    I love this thread and I think I will always consider myself a struggling success~

    I struggle every day to take my vitamins and supplements.

    I struggle every day to log every bite I take.

    I struggle every day to weigh myself.

    I struggle every day to keep my blood sugar in control.

    I struggle every day to see the beauty that others atribute to me.  I have a picture in my underwear drawer, cut out from Allure magazine, of a model, with a notation from my dear 78-old friend that says, "You are THIS thin."

    I struggle every day to make the right food choices and to remember that too many carbs give me a belly ache and the ****s.

    I struggle every day to exercise. 

    I struggle every day with my decision to pass on plastics and send my children on academic excursions and college instead.

    I struggle every day watching my 13 year old daughter live with obesity and wondering what lies ahead for her.

    I had my RNY when I was 38.  I have, hopefully, a LONG life ahead of me to live with that.  My days are filled with things I never contemplated before that I MUST do in order to maintain my health.  Some days I resent that.  I will never be "normal" again.  I chose that, but knowing I chose it doesn't make it easier.  What helps is knowing that there is a whole community out there struggling right along with me.

          
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    Topic: RE: Gee, really?

    "Qnexa is a combination of appetite suppressant phentermine and anti-seizure drug topiramate."

    I took them both, separately, as weight loss drugs.  My heart thought it might explode on phentermine and I had terrible tingling in my face from the Topamax.  I lost a little weight on both.

    At the end of the day, though, I was willing to take the associated risks to lose the weight and would probably do it again.

    No worries about birth effects in this camp.

    I am already lost in space.
          
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    Topic: RE: Does Offering Smaller Portions At Restaurants Help People Eat Less?

    Me too!  Yesterday's lunch was $50 for the five of us and that was with my husband and son sharing a pizza and my daughter and her little brother sharing a pizza.  The drinks were obscenely expensive--$3.50/each.
    No waste, though.  Everyone had healthy portions and was satisfied.  Sometimes, I see my husband eating food just so it isn't wasted.  That doesn't work either and he would tell you about it...
    We travel a lot as a family--doctor's visits, training events for my husband, stuff  for the kids,...My biggest anxiety, on wheels, is the food.  Not just for me but for everyone.  I always have to have a plan and always having a plan is exhausting.
          
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    Topic: RE: Does Offering Smaller Portions At Restaurants Help People Eat Less?

    I agree~

    I ordered from the mini menu yesterday at California Kitchen and was so relieved to have it as an option. 

    I have come to HATE eating out.  It overwhelms me.  Sometimes I don't order anything and just pick off of the plates of the rest of my family.

    Smaller portions are good sense.  I saw salads leaving the kitchen yesterday for people's lunch that would have fed my whole family.  Ridiculous, really. 

    There is a nationally known restaurant in Birch Run, MI, previously featured on Diners and Dives, called Tony's.  There is a pound of bacon on one BLT.  I am not entertained by this.  I think gluttony and it upsets me.  No one person should eat that much, even if they can.

    We don't eat out that often either--five people is hard on a pocket-book.  But, my husband and I encourage sharing of meals.  We do it.  The kids do it.
          
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    Topic: RE: Malnutrition

    I agree:

    Attorney!  You wouldn't perform your own medical procedure; it's not wise to handle your own legal affairs either.

    Welfare programs are in place for situations just like your's.  Use them as the stop-gap they are intended to be.  You and your family need to eat.  WIC is WONDERFUL because the focus is on protein-rich foods, like tuna, eggs and dairy.

    Protein first all the time.  Walmart is a great, inexpensive source for powders and I just found new Nature Valley protein bars for about $2.50 a box--20+grams of protein and low sugar.

    I look older too, with a BMI of 21.  I am okay with it.  If your avi is any indication, you look LOVELY.  Fret not about that.

    Sorry for your ordeal. 

          
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    Topic: RE: What else went away with the weight?

    My plantar fasciitis is gone.  So are my migraines, depression, fatty liver, type II diabetes, eczema and weight-bearing related joint pain. 
    On the flip-side, I have to watch out for low blood pressure and reactive hypoglycemia.  As well, my muscle recovery after strength training is slower than before.
    But I wouldn't trade it...
          
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    Topic: RE: One-Day-Early B*TCHFest - let it all out!

    I'm tired of being broke.  We work three jobs between the two of us and there is never enough money to go around.  I'm tired of robbing Peter to pay Paul.  I get paid in two days and will be lucky to have a few bucks left over after bills for food and gas. 
    I'm tired of health insurance, high deductibles and co-pays and denied claims.  I am scrapping the bottom of the barrel fighting the good fight and am bone-weary.  I see claims appeals in my future and that ****** me off.
    I'm tired of worrying about money and health insurance but can't go to my doctor for a new Lexapro prescription.  See above.
    I'm tired of people disappointing me and making me feel as if I have disappointed them more.  I am a grown woman making the best possible decisions for my family with the resources I have.  Please just respect me and support me.  I would feel less like banging my head against a brick wall.
    I am tired, anxious and overwhelmed. 
          
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    Topic: RE: Blue Cross and Michigan Medicaid

    I wrote out a lifetime of weight loss attempts and then referred to my ballooning weight in my medical charts for the last years.  I was also honest in my narrative that I doctor-shopped each time I gained and that I had documentation all over northern Michigan.  I was approved very quickly--started the process in July and had surgery in October.  I don't know about #2, but I can't see where she will need it.  Best wishes!
          
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    Topic: RE: What DOES WLS cost?

    Oh, and on the house and the husband thing...You all should see the 100+ ramshackle, half-painted, kitchen in shambles, dog-hair covered, umpolished palace that I so happily live in with my husband of 16 years AND my three messy kids and the furriest dog, hamster and guinea pig you have even seen~!
    I married my best friend and he lets me live with him ;) and we fill our house with so much love and affection, it's obnoxious.
    And I wouldn't trade it for all the tea in China!
          
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    Topic: RE: What DOES WLS cost?

    Hmmm...

    Time and organization are my tops. 

    In order to stay on a healthful track, I plan my dinners two weeks ahead of time.  I have certain things every day, without fail, to keep my protein in check:  Protein coffee and fruited Greek yogurt.  So, those things are always available to me.  I have a list of standby fillers for the rest of my day, food-wise and I most often feel like I am in control.  I generally eat dinner leftovers for lunch.  I log my food daily, in the morning to make sure my nutritional goals are in good shape.
     
    This method, however OCD (which I freely acknowledge) protects me somewhat from the vicious cycle of reactive hypoglycemia, a side effect I never counted on, or was even properly informed of.  Bad things can happen if I am not fully aware of when and where my next meal is coming!

    I take my vitamins every day, in the same general order, plucking them from the Tupperware container that accompanies me everywhere I go, along with my quart of water, which I make sure to refill at least once.

    Rewind 18 months ago and you will see an out of control, brittle diabetic with the first stage of liver disease.  I was obsessive compulsive about everything BUT my health.  Now, I am exceedingly grateful for that trait.

    I don't try to achieve perfection, or what is perceived as perfection.  I will eat chocolate covered raisins if they are offered to me, or a cookie, or Frito's...I just don't eat a pound at a time.

    I will never be normal.  My surgery precludes that.  However, my mind sight is that I will be as close to normal as possible, never again "dieting", but rather just eating like a healthy-weighted person.

    I can't ignore going to the doctor.  I have to make the trips to the lab and the co-pays a priority.  To not abide by this would be stupid for me.  I can balance that cost with the fact I no longer take any prescriptions.  I can add a shopping trip to my doctor's visit.

    This was trial by fire for me.  I wasn't prepared; not even close.  I know that was my own blessed fault too.  I have been fortunate to have few complications, but I think that was just the luck of the draw.

    Read.  Research.  Investigate.  Communicate.  Network.  Contemplate.  It's your body.  Don't you want the absolute best for it?
          
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    Topic: RE: Research, People!!!

    In my little town, I am surrounded by WLS failures...Why, one wonders?  Ignorance.  Pure and simple. 

    "What do you mean you are supposed to have recurring labs?!  I don't.  I don't take all those vitamins either and I am just fine"  Well, you also have neurological damage from the deficiencies and can't remember when you brushed your teeth last.

    "I take Advil for my back aches.  Who told you that you couldn't?" Ummm, everyone in my medical care team plus all those other support sources I touch base with daily.  I dislike bleeding in my gut.

    "I don't need protein shakes.  I do just fine."  That said as you shovel potato chips into your gullet for dinner and have achieved maybe 25 grams of protein today through food.

    The saddest part is the accompanying regain of weight lost among these folks.  It's a cumulation of people not taking personal responsibility to be properly informed and the subsequent fear of their health care providers once they have fallen off track.  Slippery slope, indeed.

    WHY do something so drastic as weight loss surgery, only to ignore the absolute necessities of self-care and end up even less healthy than when you started???  Lord.  Why bother?

    I feel like shouting from my roof, "This is not the easy way out!!!"
          
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    Topic: RE: Sore Muscles after working out.

    The pain is coming from micro tears in all those muscles you are working so hard.  Once I learned that, the day of rest and limiting one's strength training to three days a work makes a lot of sense.  Vary your routine/muscle groups from day to day to maximize the process~
    Good for you!
          
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    Topic: RE: What happened to simply being nice???

    At 5'5", I weigh 134#, 10 pounds under my goal and at an ideal body weight according to my PCP and surgeon.
    However~
    My 15 year old's EMPLOYER asked him on Saturday if I was done losing weight...Now, how do you suppose he is supposed to answer that?
    How about "heroin thin" as of last week?
    "I don't believe that you weighed 252#!  That CAN'T be true!"  Oh yea, I made that up.

    People wouldn't think to say to us, at our heaviest, "Wow, I think you have gained enough weight.  You should stop."  But, when it comes to weight LOSS, the filters come off and people say what they think.

    Some are jealous.  Some are ignorant.  All are annoying...
          
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    Topic: RE: Limiting myself ?

    I think habits develop even when we are not expecting them too and the WLS is the avenue for those new habits.
    I, like you, am a total control freak.  Knowing that, I decided to use that part of me to its fullest during my first post-surgical year and have developed a routine that works for me--journaling my food, activity and weighing daily.  Most generally, this routine offers me positive reinforcement in the way of controlled calories and lost weight and did just that, without fail, during my 12 months after surgery.  I started the habit when success was likely and the task was not burdensome.
    Now, a little over a year later, I feel like I am in a good place--maintaining with some good habits, for me, in place.
    I also think the first year is prime time for some mental health help.  It is a time full of significant life changes and is a great opportunity to deal with some head junk. 
    Wishing you the best~
          
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    Topic: RE: OT: Irritating things people say or do and why

    Another~for which my MIL is FAMOUS~
    "I'm sorry, but..."

    If you are SORRY, then why are you saying something offensive???  If you simply did not say it, there would be no need to apologize.

    Just sayin'

          
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    Topic: RE: please read

    What doctor are you using?
          
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    Topic: RE: Flabby skin after the weight is off...

    I lost 118.5# (=110% of my excess weight) and have come to the following conclusions about my skin~
    Plastic surgery would be about $7000.00 out of pocket to correct the worst of it--insurance would remove the panni but the tightening of muscles and lipo are extra; My thighs could use a little lipo and my batwings could be fixed.  That's a lot of money for relatively minor issues.
    Comparatively, though, I am not as bad off as someone who lost 200 pounds.  What I notice most are the crepey folds--on my neck, legs, and bottom, especially.  I don't have rashes and my panni does not protrude from my pants.  A little Spanx could take me far but, to date, I have not even bothered with that.
    I am mildly self-conscious about my arms but the painful surgery and scarring issues scare me into submission.  I can live with it.  Mostly it means that tank tops and short shorts are not good looks for me, but let's be honest, it is not a good look for most 39 year olds.
    The worst problem for me is shaving as those folds can get caught in the razor.  It hurts and is an infection risk~
          
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    Topic: RE: please read

    Loretta!  Where in Michigan???
    You have to KNOW there are much better options out there for you, statewide, that do not involve unwelcoming seminars and doctors' staff that don't mind putting your immune system through the wringer.
    You are the customer.  PLEASE pick an office that makes you happy, all the way around, otherwise you might not return and your after-care could suffer...
          
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    Topic: RE: Burning Belly

    I view any belly ache in a whole different light, post-surgically, especially if the pain is ongoing.  I would, without question, call my surgeon's office and describe my symptoms to them and let them decide what course of action may be appropriate~

    Feel better!
          
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    Topic: RE: XPOST Wednesday B*TCHFest: B*tch ahoy!

    Continuing into Thursday…Because I feel like it!  

    Hyper-sensitive co-workers: Please shut up and stop thinking everyone is out to get you.  Maybe if you stood up for yourself instead of cowering in the corner in the fetal position, people in authority may treat you with respect.  Leave me out of your ******g matches.  

    Halloween candy is of the devil and must be exorcised from around me.  If it were not for my continued mal absorption of calories, I would have gained five pounds due to the damnable stuff.  I have no willpower and I don’t dump and the crap is everywhere.  

    My arm hurts like a son of a ***** after my flu shot yesterday.  I didn’t realize how much my previously hefty arms protected me from such discomfort~  

    I am saddened by the community’s loss of stellar members to cancer—one just passed and two are in the process.  The whole thing is horrible and makes me melancholy.  

    The divorce rate among my peers is also on the rise and shakes me to the core.  Who knows why? Maybe the situations were bad from the start but why so many and why now???  All those poor families…  

    I am so tired I can hardly see straight. I just had my labs done and there is no evident reason why I feel like this.  It sucks. I am weary and in turn, lashing out at my loved ones, flying off the handle at the littlest things.  

    And ---drum roll, please--- , how can someone call themselves a leader, in a church no less, and conduct themselves in a manipulative and ruthless manner? This person is paid and was educated and trained to lead a congregation like a shepherd leads his flock and yet this person behaves in a manner that is stunningly contrary to that. I will never understand it and will be forever disappointed.  

    Vent over. Thank you for this opportunity.  
          
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    Topic: RE: How often do you weigh yourself and why?

    Every morning~naked~after I use the bathroom.  HELLO OCD!  I also track every morsel I eat.  I feel  more honest and accountable this way after 39 years of sticking my head in the sand.
          
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    Topic: RE: The Skinny ***** Phenomenon.

    A new normal=skinny *****~

    After posting yesterday, I told my husband that I was ***** when I was fat, so what's the difference?  Not really...I have ***** potential but I tend to keep it under wraps.

    I am a year and a handful of days out and now have a before and after pic you wouldn't believe.  I think I will shrink it to pocket size for whipping out when the occasion is right.  The weird thing is that even those closest to me have forgotten how heavy I really was and need to be reminded.

    I have gone from a size 22/24 to a 2/4.  I have lost pounds and pounds but also the comfort zone in which to discuss the process of losing them.  I don't talk about it anymore after a light bulb experience at a family gathering sitting around a table of short, round women, all of whom are dicussing the best crash diets to use to lose weight for a wedding.  I put in my two cents and get the LOOK.  I was out.  Done.  Finished.  I knew where I stood.  Even though I have a lot to offer in terms of experience, they don't want to hear it from the skinny *****

    You want to talk about dieting?  I'm likely to change the subject even though I can calculate the caloric value of your lunch in my head.  What a ride!

    BTW, this comes from a girl who bought her Calvin Klein jeans in a size 10 in middle school.  I have NEVER been skinny, so adjusting to folks' impression of me as a skinny ***** is a stretch.
          
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    Topic: RE: Let's talk about skewed or unrealistic expectations. Vets of all stages, help newbies please.

    I always thought that life would be perfect if only I were thin.   Well, now I am thin and life is far from perfect.  In fact, I know for a fact I was more content when I was at my heaviest.  Now, my life is wrought with different complications, for which I was not prepared~Specifically:
    ~I don't get hungry now and have to eat on a rigid schedule to avoid dramatic episodes of hypoglycemia.
    ~I hate eating.  Eating sucks.  All the joy is gone.  Almost everything makes me feel icky.  I eat to live now. 
    ~I need to exercise.  I don't exercise.  I wonder if I will ever exercise.  I work 45 hours a week and have three kids, two of whom are teenagers.  If I get up at 4am, maybe I can exercise but I like to sleep too.  Plus, I need the structure of organized exercise but always seem to be cash-strapped.
    ~I traded my diabetes for anemia which makes me constantly tired. 
    ~My weight loss is causing a multitude of self-esteem issues for my obese husband and daughter.
    ~People think I am "different" now that I am thin.  WTH?  Truth is, their perception of me has changed with a negative slant.  In their minds, thin=***** 
    ~The harsh reality is tha****er causes weight gain, sometimes hormone related, sometimes potato chip related.  So does poop.  I weigh daily but do so at my own risk.  Sometimes I don't like what I see but what I see is normal.
    ~Nothing is forever.  I know the statistics.  I don't want to be one, but the likelihood is there.  If I want to stay at my present weight, it still comes down to calories in and calories out.
    ~I still feel fat.  I probably need therapy but struggle to spare the time and the cost.
    ~I want to punch anyone who says this is the easy way out in the mouth.
          
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    Topic: RE: question and need a moderator plz?

    You know everyone is going to tell you to forget the lap band! 
    OH offers forums that tell you the nuts and bolts as well as people who share the ins and outs.  You really need to check those out. 
    For BC/BS of MI, BMI requirements were 35 with two co-morbids; 40 without.
          
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