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on 8/18/17 3:11 pm, edited 8/18/17 8:14 am
Topic: RE: Weight loss surgery

I know it's not for everyone, but I always had good quick weight loss success with protein shakes. My RnY doc only required a 2-week pre-op diet, and suggested I use the shakes. So I had 4 shakes a day, made with water, plus I drank lots of extra water. Each shake was 150 calories and 27 grams of protein, so I was taking in 600 calories a day and getting over 100 grams of protein. Though the first few days were a *****allenging, soon a tail wind kicked in and it became relatively easy. In the past I had done the HMR (Health Management Resources) program, which involved 5 or more 100-calorie shakes a day, vitamins, water, and some exercise. I always tried to stick to 5-6 shakes a day, and every time I went on that diet (starting at 275 pounds, then years later at 330 pounds). I would always lose right around 50 pounds in 12 weeks. At a higher BMI you might very well lose more than that in the same time. Though that program is expensive if you have to pay out-of-pocket, it could help you get down to a BMI of under 60 relatively quickly. If a program like that is not doable, you absolutely can do it on your own, using some of the high-quality protein shakes people here like to use. I know it is daunting, but you have a very attainable and very worthwhile goal which wouldn't take very long to reach. Just keep your goal in mind, as it can help motivate you. I promise that the shake diet really gets much easier after the first few days.

I wish I had some magical technique to offer you to help you to quit smoking. There are medications now that some people use which may help. I smoked 35 years ago and quit pretty much cold turkey. It was challenging mostly because cigarettes have a weird interaction with your nervous system, and quitting made me experience more nervousness in life in general for several months, before it all calmed down. There were activities I had to stop doing for a while while my body adjusted, because I had smoked while doing them, and it was too difficult to do those things without smoking. Eventually it all evened out and I could enjoy those activities again as a non-smoker. Vitamin supplements like calcium and magnesium, vitamin C and the B vitamins helped. I would also hold a stick of cinnamon, kind of pretending it was a cigarette. It had a nice flavor and though I'm sure I looked silly, it seemed to help.

The other possibility is to keep searching for a different doctor. My doc is one of the few who does take on patients with extremely high BMIs. He's a very fine physician, but he's here in California.

The smoking is another matter: I suspect it would be hard to find a doc who will agree to do this surgery on a smoker. This is because the rate of surgical complications is significantly higher for smokers, and healing in general is comparatively compromised.

But people do overcome these obstacles - why not you, too? Are there people in your life who would support your efforts to regain your health, mobility, and freedom? I really do understand that the necessary changes may seem overwhelming, but I do feel that you could quite quickly get to where that doc requires you to be, if you could grit it out for a little while.

Wishing you very good luck.

on 8/15/17 5:35 pm
VSG on 08/11/14
Topic: RE: Weekly weigh-in aug 14-aug 20

HW 368

LW 170

TW 176.4

Too many treats while I was gone last week.

Donna L.
on 8/15/17 5:26 pm - IL
VSG on 06/22/15
Topic: RE: My father is 47 , and morbidly obese 5"4 and 330 lbs bmi around 56.7

The problem is that obesity is worse when shorter. So it's actually really bad to be 330 pounds at 5'4", more so for a man than a woman, because the bones and joints are designed to take a much lighter load than someone 6'. Someone 6' would have fewer issues than your father, but because he is shorter, more pressure is on all his organs and joints.

I follow a ketogenic diet post-op. I also have a diagnosis of binge eating disorder. Feel free to ask me about either :)

It is not that we have so little time but that we lose so much...the life we receive is not short but we make it so; we are not ill provided but use what we have wastefully. -- Seneca, On the Shortness of Life

on 8/15/17 12:25 pm
VSG on 10/17/16
Topic: RE: Weekly weigh-in aug 14-aug 20

Wow 10 lbs! That's awesome. But what's even better is that you were able to stick to your guns even with the pressure and being out of your element. Good for you.

HW: 375 SW: 282 CW: 177 GW: 158

on 8/15/17 12:12 pm
Topic: RE: Weekly weigh-in aug 14-aug 20

This was a challenging week for me. I was out of province visiting my inlaws on their farm in rural Manitoba. Both my kids and I felt withdrawals from no Wifi!! We had many family food functions which were terribly hard being on Opti. I am very private about my upcoming surgery and have not shared it with any of the in-laws. I told them prior to our visit that I was having my abdominal hernia fixed and needed to be on a liquid diet to shrink my liver prior to surgery. Even with that explanation there was a lot of pressure to eat. I am proud to say I did well and it was reflected on the scale, the first thing I did was weigh myself when we arrived home from the airport this afternoon! It was probable a good thing that they didn't have a scale!

HW- 298



Referred:Oct 2016 Orientation: Jan 9th/17 Nurse: Apr 4th/17 PreOp Class 1: Apr 2017 Nut/SW:Jun 13th/17 Psych:Jun 29th/17 PreOp Class 2: July 11th/17 Meet the Surgeon:July 12th/17 Endoscopy: July 21st/17 Surgery Day: August 25th

on 8/15/17 6:21 am
VSG on 10/17/16
Topic: RE: Weekly weigh-in aug 14-aug 20

I had a good week. I don't expect the scale to move for a while if my past is any indication. I feel like I am floundering a bit even though I had a good week. Lots going on at work and some huge deadlines approaching. I have to make myself a priority. This is where I have failed so many times.

HW: 375

LW: 180

TW: 177

HW: 375 SW: 282 CW: 177 GW: 158

Insert Fitness
on 8/15/17 3:14 am
Topic: Weekly weigh-in aug 14-aug 20

woops! Forgot to post yesterday!

....prob because it's higher than last week hahah. I am still down when looking at my weekly average, but still, not fun to post.

HW: 378

LW: 189.6

TW: 190.8

hope every one had a good week!

RNY Sept 8, 2016

M1:23, M2 :18, M3 :11, M4 :19, M5: 13, M6: 12, M7: 17, M8: 11, M9: 11.5, M10: 13, M11: 10


on 8/10/17 5:52 am
Topic: RE: My father is 47 , and morbidly obese 5"4 and 330 lbs bmi around 56.7

Thanks , why i consider my dad isnt so obese , ykno medically my dad is super obese , but his body (from my POV) isnt so big like other 330 lbs man although his height only 5'4 ?

Insert Fitness
on 8/10/17 3:44 am
Topic: RE: Weekly weigh in 07/08/17-13/08/17

Woo! You're killing it!

RNY Sept 8, 2016

M1:23, M2 :18, M3 :11, M4 :19, M5: 13, M6: 12, M7: 17, M8: 11, M9: 11.5, M10: 13, M11: 10


Insert Fitness
on 8/10/17 3:43 am
Topic: RE: Weekly weigh in 07/08/17-13/08/17

Thanks so much! I have awesome people like you to look to for guidance, which makes this seem possible!

i am in the same camp as you and Gwen re moderation. i had a conversation with my husband on the drive home about it. he was talking about some things he over indulged in, and mentioned an ice cream we went for (I had coffee...delicious coffee, but just coffee) . At first I was like, but this is when you should have ice cream. On vacation. I said I'll have one next year. But then I started walking it back, pretty fast hahaha. I was like, well maybe. Probably not. Depends on where I'm at lol.

I do know ice cream was a trigger food for me, I would eat whole pints, and it is my favourite dessert. So I have a feeling it's not something I can have in moderation.

another clue I can't moderate ice cream? That was 5 days ago and I'm still talking about it....

RNY Sept 8, 2016

M1:23, M2 :18, M3 :11, M4 :19, M5: 13, M6: 12, M7: 17, M8: 11, M9: 11.5, M10: 13, M11: 10


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