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    Brenda J.
    Tweed, Canada
    Member Since: 12/16/10
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    1) Never regained an ounce since all my weightloss - --

    and my diabetes all came back, has this happened to you ?  ( 7 year post op +++?

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    Wantmylife
    VSG (10/02/12)
    Member Since: 10/12/11
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    Brenda, what surgery type did u have? Did u stay low carb? I haven't had the surgery yet so am very interested because my main reason is to put my diabetes into remission. I don't dare say cure because well, of situations like yours. I guess as it is a genetic disease and progressive and chronic, it is bound to eventually adjust to the effects of surgery and come back. Everything adjusts. It is a good thing you had a 7 year remission. What is your doc saying? What will be the strategy to control it now?
    5ft0; hw 222; cw 195
           
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    Brenda J.
    Tweed, Canada
    Member Since: 12/16/10
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    Dear one,,
    i had the Gastric bypass,.. and my sugars were fine for a while, and as you know we get older and the machine gets older....  so  the strategy now is to get back on metformin,... i can not run anymore as i did for years as i wa**** and run by a car as i was walking on the sidewalk..so knees are done... my suggestion to you is .. LOSE AS MUCH as you can NOW>>>>  as it gets harder later... :D
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    Wantmylife
    VSG (10/02/12)
    Member Since: 10/12/11
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    Working on it... Losing already and after the sleeve I hope to go to 110 lbs which is thin for me although "normal" in the BMI range. I have heavy bones. I want to go on the thinner side precisely because I know that with the years some weight is liable to creep back on. Sigh... This is so hard. I just hope I can make the right changes and exercise. This has always been the pitfall for me. I can't tell you how many annual gym memberships I paid and never used....
    5ft0; hw 222; cw 195
           
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    funkyphillygirl
    Member Since: 09/06/10
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    Find out what type you are.  It's possible you have LADA (latent autoimmune diabetes in adults) or Type 1.5 diabetes.  It has features of both types - you need insulin like a Type 1 and have insulin resistance as a Type 2.  Your endocrinologist can test for that....

    Good luck!
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    Brenda J.
    Tweed, Canada
    Member Since: 12/16/10
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    WOW, hey funkyphillygirl   thank you for the info,, i had never heard of this... hmmm wow.!

    (happy holdiays to you).

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    Wantmylife
    VSG (10/02/12)
    Member Since: 10/12/11
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    There is a great forum called diabetesforums dot com. It has a huge wealth of info on all the types of D and info on meds, food, carbs... Just a ton of stuff. I live there and here these days!
    5ft0; hw 222; cw 195
           
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    funkyphillygirl
    Member Since: 09/06/10
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    And to you, too!!! 

    About 10-20% of Type 2 diabetics are actually misdiagnosed as Type 2's when they actually are LADA's/Type 1.5.  So, it's not a huge percentage but it happens. 

    I've been diabetic  since age 29 (25 years ago) - diagnosed as Type 2.  I honeymooned out on every oral med they had then, lost a significant amount of weight (on purpose), got to a normal weight and then went on insulin about a year after my diagnosis.  I've been on insulin (and orals) ever since - and gained 95 pounds along the way.  I also had/have PCOS, so insulin resistance is a big deal.

    Doctors always speculated that something didn't seem quite right about my story or my treatment course until about a year ago when I was getting serious about bariatric surgery.  I had a GAD 65 antibodies test and something else - they contradicted each other.  I then had a C-peptide which showed minimal insulin production and my Type 2 diabetes finally became Type 1.  I do use novolog insulin, lantus and glucophage now post RNY surgery (9/12/11).  I have stopped taking a lot of other oral meds and Byetta since surgery. 

    Anyway, just throwing this out there.  Diabetes is much more complicated than most believe - it's not always this neat, clean Type 1 or 2, lose weight and all is well kind of thing.  I've learned a lot through my own reading and researching and advocacy for myself.  I had RNY not so much for weight loss, but to get better control.  And so far, that is working.  To me, weight loss is an added benefit, but definitely not the goal of this surgery.  So, from the beginning, I knew I had to have something where my digestive system was impacted - thus RNY. 

    Happy New Year - look around for a good endocrinologist and stick to them like glue!!  :-)
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    Sheri A.
    Member Since: 11/29/05
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    Never heard of LADA but I may have that. I am 5 years post op RNY, and am at normal BMI. I take Janumed and Victoza, got off insulin (Levemir, 7-10 units)in June and my sugars are now just hovering between 100-120. My A1C is at 6.7, doctor is quite pleased actually. I also exercise 5x a week and watch what I eat. I am healthier and happier as a thin person but wish the diabetes was better controlled
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    lrjoy
    IL
    Member Since: 02/08/12
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    After years of researching and working on my personal issues I have to agree that Diabetes is much more complicated than most believe -it's not always this neat, clean Type 1 or 2, lose weight and all is well kind of thing. 

    I too learned a lot through my own reading and researching and advocacy for myself.  I had RNY in October of 2010 not so much for weight loss, but to get better control.  I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes in 1981 and it never went away. 

    Since then I have run marathon's (under training with dietician and physical trainer specializing in diabetic patients) been on every med and finally meds and insulin and well, it just kept getting worse (my resistence). 

    My highest weight (I'm 5'4") was 224 after childbirth and the lowest I could get was 190 and I was miserable when I got to that weight.  I researched and thought about surgery for 5 years before comitting to the procedure as a way to hopefully stem the tide of complications that were just starting with my diabetes. 

    I weighed 188 lbs the morning of my surgery and 36 hours later and 12 pounds heavier (water I'm sure) I was off all insulin and meds.   It took 9 months, gym 3 times a week (again working with a very specialized trainer) and today I am 135 pounds and so far, it is working.  My fasting blood sugars are alway right around 100, 3 hrs are lower than 116.    

    Yes the weight loss was an added benefit, but definitely not the goal of this surgery.  So, from the beginning, I knew I had to have something where my digestive system was impacted - thus RNY.  Another factor, my cholesterol and Tri's are all in normal range now - it took about a total of 6 months for that to happen.  Really good for me as I could not tolerate any Statin that the doctor tried with me. 

    I knew the day I had my surgery that my poor little Pancreas had been "putting out" for many years and that at some point in the future it might not be able to put out enough, but the hope for me is that if that day comes and I am once again in a place where insulin is a necessity - I hope that the resistence is still gone - that is why I am maintaining as healthy a life style as I can and thanking God that this worked for me and praying that they figure out EXACTLY what physiciological change in the body is making this work for at least those people who fit my "profile". 

    The best part, I now understand what "runners high" is - I feel great most of the time and that never happened in my entire life (really - even as a young Extremely active person).   I always participated in sports and always went home and fell down dog tired - wondering why other people felt so great afterwards.

    My biggest complaint right now  . . . I don't fit in exactly anywhere.  My support group is great, but even there I have experienced prejuidice - you only had to lose a small amount of weight . . . and well forget about anyone else outside of the Bariatric Surgery World, as far as they are concerned I somehow "cheated" my way to weight loss, they don't even want to hear about how good I feel because my insulin now works right.   That part is very frustrating.  I wish there was a support group just for Metabloic sydrome patients . . . lower BMI before surgery . . .  maybe someday.

    Lily

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    funkyphillygirl
    Member Since: 09/06/10
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    Lily - First of all - CONGRATULATIONS!  I am so proud of you and your commitment to what works for YOU. 

    You speak my language.  I tell everyone that for me weight loss is a SECONDARY benefit of the surgery and not the reason I did it.  My blood sugar #s are the most important to me.  I like seeing the changes on the scale, but the other numbers matter more.

    I haven't connected with the support group because I didn't really see anything there for me.  I was never a compulsive or an emotional eater and was extremely careful with my diet for years and years before my surgery.  I counted carbs, ate mostly protein, etc. and exercised - and my weight climbed almost 90 pounds over 20 or so years.  I took more and more medication and got limited results.  I feel a get more by visiting diabetic boards that wls ones. 

    We could always start our own little group here on line?  I think there's more of us than we realize....

    Best of luck - keep up the great work and commitment. 
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    lrjoy
    IL
    Member Since: 02/08/12
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    Thank you funkyphillygirl,  you know I bet you're right, there must be more of us out there.  I'm very new here so I don't know about starting a group, but I do know what the battle has been like for me the past 30 years and your message resonated in accord with me.  I'm sure between us we have a litany of stories about arguments with nutritionists/dieticians, endo's, internal med doc's and more.  We definetly have had to be our own cheerleaders to get us thru thus far.

    I am contemplating relocating in the next year to a very small town in Iowa called New Albin, pop. 500 and finding a way to connect online now before I leave familar territory (if not totally supportive) looks great.

    You keep the faith and follow the plan . . . they are going to find out why this happens to some of us the way it has.

    Lily   
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    funkyphillygirl
    Member Since: 09/06/10
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    Lily, you do the same.  And remember the lifeline out here!!  Just keep training - you are an inspiration!  Terry (aka funkyphillygirl)
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    mt1000
    Member Since: 03/31/12
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    Hi Lily,

    Did you receive insurance coverage for your surgery? It doesn't look like you met the BMI requirement that most require. I have a 31.8 BMI and they require 35 or 40 in most cases. I really appreciate your thoughtful post. I have a similar history and am in serious consideration of this.  I share your perspective about this as a solution for healthier aging as a diabetic. I'd appreciate knowing if you applied for and received insurance coverage. Thank you!
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    lrjoy
    IL
    Member Since: 02/08/12
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    mt1000,

    Hi, yes my insurance did cover my surgery.  My original BMI was 39, 224 lbs, I joined weigh****chers and got down to 33, but could not lose more and I was in a losing battle with the low calorie count that I needed to maintain to keep my weight loss.  I quit weigh****chers and rebounded to a BMI of 36 when I applied for a surgical program.  4 months later my insurance did approve me and the day of surgery my BMI was once again 33.  I had very, very high cholesterol and tri's, high blood pressure, blood sugars not well controlled on meds and insulin (both long and short acting every day)  my insulin resistence was getting worse with every year (I was a diabetic for 29 years at this point).  Also multiple bleeding ulcers, most likely from the metformin I complained about for 14 years (hurt my stomach from day one and it never stopped)   I also had sleep apnea.  I truly prayed that everything I read about the surgery possibly improving or curing was going to happen for me and it did.  I should tell you that the first time my doctor applied for insurance company approval I was denied without a reason given.  His office reapplied reitering my whole history and I was approved just a few short weeks later.  My whole journey began with research in January of 2010, surgery last week of October 2010, goal of 135 reached in July 2011 and I am holding.  :)   No meds, at all, none.  Hopefully I can maintain this status for a long time to come.  I wish you well i your journey . . . if you have any questions I can help with let me know.  :)  Lily
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