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 smithsburg, MD Member Since: 04/24/10 [Latest Posts] | Post Date: 4/29/10 11:34 pm i was gung hoe about the band and im going to talk to a surgeon on may 5th about it... i thought it was safer, easier and much less recovery time, but now all i hear about is how people have had so much wrong with it, and they go to the RNY??? im new to all this, and would like some input on it, now that my wheels in my head are turning, im going to weight all the options, please tell me how your rny has been and so forth! thanks Amy  on my way to my WLS journey and cannot wait!!!! |
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 Canada Member Since: 07/01/09 [Latest Posts] | Post Date: 4/30/10 10:47 am Hi I am revising on Friday next week. Never really found that sweet spot, had heart burn, acid reflux, no real feeling of fullness. I had the band for three years and lost 50 lbs. First six months I lost nothing and was following the program. April 2007: Referral to L. Klien lost  |
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 Member Since: 09/02/09 [Latest Posts] | Post Date: 4/30/10 5:58 pm Last Edit: 4/30/10 5:58 pm Hi Amy, I was initally going with the band, because thats all u see advertised, but after ALOT of research, I changed to VSG. I started @ 383, down to 288 4 months later, I am off my BP meds, & 1 of 2 COPD meds. This surgery has changed my life, & I liked the fact that there was no re routing of intestines, etc. I think every person is unique,& they choose the surgery that most fits them, & VSG was for me. This has nothing t o dowith RNY, I really just wanted to wish u well, & enjoy your new life!!!!!!!! Whatever you decide, Best wishes!!!! |
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 Tuvalu Other Member Since: 08/07/05[Latest Posts] | Post Date: 5/1/10 6:33 pm Verboonen is a nice guy. He was the first doctor to FINALLY diagnose that my band had caused esophageal dysmotility. He took the saline out of my band so that I could revise to the DS. |
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 Waynesboro, PA Member Since: 03/08/10 [Latest Posts] | Post Date: 4/30/10 7:27 pm Hi Amy- Five years ago, I started my journey to have bypass surgery. I made it through most of my appointments, but then chickened out. I was afraid of the malnutritrion, afraid of my hair falling out, and afraid of dying. Fifty pounds later, I was so disgusted with myself I decided to try the WLS journey again, but this time opted for the banding route. Because afterall, worse case scenario - it could be reversed. It's very difficult - almost impossible - to reverse banding. Every person's different - you have to do what's best for you. But for me, this was the best decision. It's not about how FAST you lose the weight, but how you can KEEP it off. SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE!! Best of luck to you, Cyndi   |
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Tuvalu Other Member Since: 08/07/05[Latest Posts] | Post Date: 5/1/10 6:28 pm On April 30, 2010 at 7:27 PM Pacific Time, Cynthia1968 wrote: Hi Amy-Five years ago, I started my journey to have bypass surgery. I made it through most of my appointments, but then chickened out. I was afraid of the malnutritrion, afraid of my hair falling out, and afraid of dying. Fifty pounds later, I was so disgusted with myself I decided to try the WLS journey again, but this time opted for the banding route. Because afterall, worse case scenario - it could be reversed. It's very difficult - almost impossible - to reverse banding. Every person's different - you have to do what's best for you. But for me, this was the best decision. It's not about how FAST you lose the weight, but how you can KEEP it off. SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE!! Best of luck to you, Cyndi If you though it was malnutrition, no wonder you were afraid! But, of course, a lot of people who profit from selling one kind of surgery don't seem to mind when people get bad information about the other surgeries...the ones they don't do. Sue |
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Tuvalu Other Member Since: 08/07/05[Latest Posts] | Post Date: 5/1/10 6:31 pm Wait...did you mean it's almost impossible to reverse the RnY? Because it isn't impossible at all. My surgeon revises RnYs to DS procedures on a routine basis. I feel bad that you were given so many incorrect "facts" about other procedures. |
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Tuvalu Other Member Since: 08/07/05[Latest Posts] | Post Date: 5/1/10 6:25 pm A BMI of 46 seems to be the cut off point for determining the possibility of success (and that means losing HALF your excess weight) vs failure with a band. Yes , of course, A FEW people with higher BMIs do better than average. The amazing part is how many think they will be in "that few."
Failure of adjustable gastric banding: starting BMI of 46 kg/m2 is a fulcrum of success and failure
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Received 13 May 2008; received in revised form 29 August 2008; accepted 22 September 2008. published online 08 October 2008. AbstractBackgroundTo determine the body mass index (BMI) located at the fulcrum of success and failure in a prospective study conducted at the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston. On average, our patients whose percentage of excess weight loss (%EWL) was >50% at 1 year had a significantly lower BMI than those with <30% EWL. MethodsWe prospectively collected the weight loss data for 430 patients who had had an adjustable gastric band placed. We stratified the %EWL within 1 year for patients with a BMI of 30–59 kg/m2. A line was generated for the %EWL over time for BMI groups of 30–39, 40–49, and 50–59 kg/m2 and compared with the average %EWL over time. The y-intercepts of the resulting four lines were graphed against the average BMI for each group. ResultsThe generated y-intercept line had an R2 of .9237. Using the equation of this line and the known y-intercept for the average, we solved for x, resulting in a BMI of 46 kg/m2. Patients with a BMI <46 kg/m2 had a 50% EWL at 1 year, and those with a BMI >46 kg/m2 had only a 33% EWL at 1 year. The %EWL between the groups was significantly different at all measured intervals (P <.0001). ConclusionA BMI of 46 kg/m2 identifies those at high risk of failure to lose a significant percentage of excess weight after adjustable gastric banding and *****quire closer follow-up. Furthermore, patients who have a BMI >46 kg/m2 should be advised that their weight loss might be suboptimal at 1 year. While you are researching, also visit dsfacts.com Good luck to you. | |||||||||||||||||
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| Post Date: 5/2/10 7:13 pm Well I am 8 months post surgery and i love my RNY !! I lost 112 lbs ....not that much hair , am Extremely healthy ( i DID lose my diabetes and sleep apnea and my asthma got a lot better too) . Would I choose RNY again or recommend it to others ? Yes if U dislike fatty foods ( like i did) and have a low BMI ( mine was 35) . Otherwise it might not be enough of an intervention for U and U might have to live on a diet for the rest of Ur life . The other altermative is the DS - which works better long term for larger people I think .... The VSG seems to have a great track record and it IS half a DS so if you find you need more U can always have the rest of the surgery . I don't see anywhere near as much regain with the VSG as with the RNY or the band ,..... but they havent been doing it as long . I personally would NEVER get a band ....the port ,the high rate of complications, severe acid reflux ulcers , the fact that its "merely " restrictive....also ive had friends who just didn't lose "enough " weight with the band and regretted their surgical choice for that reason alone. |
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Member Since: 05/09/10 [Latest Posts] | Post Date: 5/9/10 2:39 am you look amazing congrats on the huge weight loss. I have just started my jurney . but to see folks like you that have won the race is inspiring. thanks for the photos and the coments |
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smithsburg, MD Member Since: 04/24/10 [Latest Posts] | Post Date: 5/2/10 8:08 pm thanks for all the replies guys! it looks like the RNY is what im going to go for, as i will not do a band now, and i do not want the sleeve or the ds i just cant see myself doing any of that right now! but once again im just going to find a surgeon i like so im sure things could change in the mean time! on my way to my WLS journey and cannot wait!!!! |
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 Hawthorne, CA Member Since: 10/26/06 [Latest Posts] | Post Date: 5/3/10 3:01 pm Can I ask what is it that you don't like about the VSG or DS? I'm 5'7 Sexy, Sassy...yada =) Pre Sx Wt 325.6 - Sx Wt 302.6 |
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| Post Date: 5/2/10 10:18 pm Awesome ! the RNY is as they say ..the gold standard of bariatric surgeries . If Ure willingto do the work ..its a GREAT tool!! Cant wait to see U on the loser's bench !!  |
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 Olathe, KS Member Since: 07/15/08 [Latest Posts] | Post Date: 5/5/10 8:00 am Well, I was 378lbs, followed all directions and didnt eat the stuff that isn't good with the band, exercised, etc. and now I weigh 217lbs just over a year later. So I know people have complications, but not everyone does. You cannot assume you cannot have issues with other surgeries either. Heck I had a basic surgery non WLS and had to have another due to a complication. You can't just read all the bad stuff and assume. If you have a great doctor/surgeon and you do what you are supposed to, the likelyhood (not 100%) of having an issue is rare. But research your options. I have a friend who had gastric 5 years ago and is having issues in the hospital right now.  7.8 cc in a 10 cc band, Started at 378 lbs Goodbye 300 forever and ever! 07/18/2009 Tummy Tuck August 13, 2010 |
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| Post Date: 5/5/10 4:39 pm If you are looking for the safest surgery long term that would be the sleeve, not the band. The band has a lot of potential complications and they happen a great deal. I had one and revised to a sleeve. I'd rather be fat than to live banded life again. Do you know what the sleeve is? It's far less invasive than bypass. |
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 Member Since: 09/19/08 [Latest Posts] | Post Date: 5/7/10 8:16 pm I think it's great that you're researching all surgical options and I hope you continue keeping an open mind until you conclude your research and are comfortable with your decision. You want to cut once, not be faced with a revision down line. I also had a lot of weight to lose - I had an RNY in 2002, lost 175, then gained it back. At the time the DS was so new and I felt to drastic. I wish I knew then what I know now that I've had both surgeries and know the difference in the quality of life. Please be sure to read dsfacts.com, long term weight loss success for people with BMI's over 50 isn't the RNY, unfortunately 30% of people regain down line. Now there is 70% that don't - what's important is that you can live with the day to day lifestyle so you have long term success. I would encourage you to speak to an RNY surgeon and a DS surgeon to get both sides of the story before you commit. I wish you the best of luck during your journey, it's a lot to think about. Debbie M. SW 358/CW 201/Goal - anything below 160 |
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New Concord, OH (02/06/07) Member Since: 03/26/08[Latest Posts] | Post Date: 6/9/10 8:12 pm Debbie, I also had the RNY but in 2007, lost 121# and have gained about 65# over the last year. I constantly think of food and what can I eat next. I feel just like I did before my surgery. I don't know what happened to that excited feeling I would get knowing how much weight I was losing! My joints are aching, I feel very sluggish and just can't concentrate and get myself back on track. I have been so out of the information loop, I don't know what to do or where to start. I haven't seen my surgeon in the last 2 years and feel like a huge failure. I know that the people that have seen me loosing and now regaining look at my mid-section before they look at my face. Any feedback and suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Katiecat ~The Lord is my strength and my might~ |
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 Member Since: 11/20/09 [Latest Posts] | Post Date: 5/9/10 2:39 pm All I can say is make sure you do your research on ALL WLS. I started out wanting the band until I heard all the real testimonials with misery and pain including all different complications. Then I really wanted the sleeve, but my insurance didnt cover it. I then thought RNY of course- like you figured it's the gold standard of WLS. However, I was terrified of having to take supplements forever and get B-12 check ups and blood work throughout my life. Through my research, I think DS seems like the most idealic surgery thinking you can eat almost anything- i thought that might be best for binge- eaters like me. However, when it all came down to it, I decided I want to eat less in life, not more and chose VSG. So that was my long journey of research. But my advice is to research what fits you and your lifestyle and what you think you want out of WLS. It is major surgery, and like someone said- you dont want to be cut open more than once. |
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 Northern, VA Duodenal Switch (04/02/09) Member Since: 05/28/07[Latest Posts] | Post Date: 5/10/10 7:03 pm I think you may have a misconception of DS eating. I can tell you that I don't eat close to whatever I want. I have a great deal of restriction even at more than a year out. I can eat about 5 to 7 oz at a time. When I initially had surgery it was 2 to 4 oz at a time. With that much restriction, I am pretty careful usually with what I eat so I can make sure to get in the 100 grams of protein my body requires. That's not to say that I don't have the occassional treat. I definitely do. I also don't have to limit fat, and that definitely helps. I do try to avoid most carbs especially simple carbs while I'm still trying to lose weight. SW / BMI / SIZE: 312 / 49.5 / 26-28W CW / BMI / SIZE: 159.1 / 25.1/ 10-12 |
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