VSG - not losing

(deactivated member)
on 7/19/10 8:26 am - NC

I had the VSG nine months ago, I had complications and was not able to do anything for the first four months, I lost 50 lbs in those four months.  Once I was better I started working out three to four times a week for at least 60 minutes but closer to 75 minutes.  My calories are between 1,000 to 1,200, my protein is about 70, carbs under 80.  I have not lost anything since March.  I don't understand it.  I am truthfully doing what I am supposed to.  Has this happened to anyone else?  I've read a post where the person said they gained almost all their weight back because they are over eating but I am not over eating, I measure my food, and write everything down so I am accurate with my totals.  I do know that I never feel stuffed, I've never gotten sick, and sometimes I wonder if I really had the surgery.

I'm not sure what to do, my doctor says that maybe my body just wants to stay at this weight so my metabolism is lowering so I won't lose.  I hope he is wrong, I have been through too much for this to be it.
(deactivated member)
on 7/19/10 11:31 am - Menomonee Falls, WI
I agree with the metabolism to a point but after 3 months of 1100 calories a day and working out I think you should see an endocrinologist.  You could be gaining some muscle weight but not that much.  I work out 30 minutes a day most days.  I eat at least 700 calories a day more than you and even I have lost slowly but I have lost something.  I am assuming you weigh about 175 lbs.  if your BMI is 31 like your profile page says.  Even a comatose person burns 10 calories a pound.  So the absolute least you should burn is 1750 calories a day.  In 3 months you should have lost a minimum of 1 lb per week or 12 lbs.  That is very conservative.  I really would see a specialist because maybe your thyroid is slow or something.   A week or 2 of a stall is understandable but 3 months is too long.   I can't understand how your surgeon can think a person eating 1100 cal a day wouldn't lose weight for no reason other than your body not wanting to lose weight.  Eventually we would all starve on 1100 cal. a day.  Tons of people maintain really low BMIs on 1200 cal a day.  Something isn't right.  I understand your frustration.  I really think you should check it out.  Daisy
(deactivated member)
on 7/19/10 2:47 pm - NC

Thanks for replying Daisy.  I weigh 187.  I agree that something is not right.  He said a formula might show that I should be burning so many calories but that my body might only do half of what another person would do, I would think he would want to find out why my metabolism is doing this if that is really what the problem is.  I hope something changes soon.
(deactivated member)
on 7/19/10 7:34 pm - Menomonee Falls, WI
An endocrinologist specializes in things like that.  Google hypothyroid and see if you have other symptoms.  I know there are different levels of tests they can run.  You are exercising and not eating and not losing.  Look at all the food I eat (I have a mechanical failure) and  I exercise 30 minutes not an hour and I have lost from 190 to 185 since June 7th.  Something is not right!  I wish you luck trying to get an answer.  It did take a long time for me to find out what was going on so keep the faith.  Daisy
rycry
on 7/20/10 4:18 am
VSG on 03/29/10 with
Erin,

You could also have sleep apnea...it prevents many people from losing weight. Go to your doctor...and try cutting your calories down and carbs down and see if that jump starts your weight loss again!
Starting Weight 295 Height 5'6
Sleeved 03/2010 First baby 02/2012
          
             
(deactivated member)
on 7/20/10 6:26 am, edited 7/20/10 6:34 am - Menomonee Falls, WI
She is only eating 1000 to 1200 calories a day! She is counting and weighing her food. I believe her. She is exercising an hour. She is eating very low carb...if you read her post. She could eat a little more protein, vary the kinds of food, vary the exercise and drink more water. I bet she does drink her water if she is tracking and measuring everything else. I know a woman in Weigh****chers that stopped dieting over the holidays and only made sure she drank her water and she didn't gain weight that year. I was impressed. How much more can she cut down? I just hope she lets us know how thing progress and what she did to get things moving again. I know thousands of us would love to know how to make a failed WLS work. Obviously me included. Daisy
rycry
on 7/20/10 7:37 am
VSG on 03/29/10 with
Daisy,-I didnt say I didnt believe her post, I was just trying to give advice as I have had the VSG. My doc recommends between 600-800 calories a day with less than 40 carbs. So 1000-1200 could be too high. I was merely giving advice as she was asking for it.
I am 3 months out and have continuously been losing except for a stall here and there...so was just giving my two sense.

Erin- I do think an appt with an endo doc would help, because you may have metabolic sydrome or insulin resistance. One other thing you might try is the 5 day pouch test and see if that works for you! I wish you nothing but the best!! :)
Starting Weight 295 Height 5'6
Sleeved 03/2010 First baby 02/2012
          
             
(deactivated member)
on 7/20/10 7:50 am - NC

Thank you both for your advice.  I plan on getting some blood work done to see if something is happening.  I do not want to reduce my calories under 1,000 because that is unrealistic for me, in the beginning 600-800 was enough because the stomach was still swollen from the surgery but once I got past six months or so I was feeling way to weak to continue that low.  "Normal" people eat upwards of 1800 so there really shouldn't be a problem with me doing 1000-1200 and not losing. 

I will post again once I find out what going is going on.  Thanks again for your support.
(deactivated member)
on 7/20/10 3:23 pm, edited 7/20/10 3:25 pm - Menomonee Falls, WI
Hi RYCRY= I was able to eat 500 to 800 calories before the RNY but now I am too darn hungry. I think we ate more than that on my first week after surgery diet. 3 meals and protein shakes in between. Anyways, I am so glad all is going well for you. Maybe some day I will be on the losers bench with you. Daisy
dededunn
on 7/21/10 7:59 pm
I think I have a better sob story....I had a VSG on March 2, 2010 and I have only lost 16 lbs! I weighed 226 lbs when I went in for surgery and I weigh 210 lbs. I lose a lb here & there, but nothing to really get excited about. I have lost inches (3.5" in my thighs, 3" in my arms...total of 14.5"), so its not all all bad. However, I think paying $13K and giving up a body part warrants a better return.

I also try to do all of the right things. I drink a 45 gram protein shake for breakfast, salad or sandwich for lunch, meat & salad or veggies for dinner. I swim daily. I just don't get it.

I have gone down one dress size. I feel really good, but I had hoped for so much more.

I am a little disappointed.
(deactivated member)
on 7/22/10 5:41 am - NC

I'm sorry that you are having difficulties.  Has your doctor given you a reason as to why you are not losing?  It doesn't make sense why this would happen to either of us.  I don't know where to go from here.  I'm looking to find a new PCP because my regular one doesn't take me seriously whenever I have concerns.  My surgeon is great but I don't think he has run into this before.

I hope things start working for you soon. 
dededunn
on 7/22/10 10:32 am
Thanks for your words of encouragement. As for the doctor, I haven't seen him since I had the surgery. I have had 2  follow-ups, but you simply see the nurse & the PA....no surgeon. I have another appt. in September. That will be my 6 month check-up. I am hoping to get some answers then. I was told early on......"Well, you didn't have as far to go, so your weight loss will not be as great." I understand that.....but 16 lbs??? Besides, when was 226 lbs a light weight? I should weigh about 165 lbs. I am hovering at 210 lbs.........for 3 weeks now. Having said that....that is only 16 lbs total since March!!!

I think I must have the metabolism of a bean bag!
Shasha99
on 7/22/10 6:35 am - Singapore
Hi Friends, I think I'm not alone,I had my sleeve on the 14 May 2010,on my 8 weeks I had lost 19kilos,on my 3rd week post op,I started going to the Gym ,4x a week ,each x I workout hard for 2 to 2.5 hours and lately my weight stall,I hate this..

I only take 500-600 calories a day,with no CARBS yet,I start my day with lemon juice and a slice of Papaya or banana , I carry with me pure fruit juice in my water bottle, I seldom cook sometimes I made fish soup with brocoli and beancurd,my lunch can be only juice and beancurd,my dinner will be the same as my lunch sometimes I change to Non fat Yogurt..I count calories like counting money but why stall?

I have depression since 2004 and still on medication at night only..is the medication cause weight stall???

Please Help me..

Singapore girl
SHASHA99        I LUV MY SLEEVE !!!              
(deactivated member)
on 7/22/10 9:17 am - NC

I don't know but it seems like working out 2-2.5 hours a day you would be burning 600+ calories, being so early out it might have shocked your body between the calories reduction and all the exercise, maybe you should cut back the workouts to an hour.  I know protein is really important so maybe you need to increase that.  You really are so early out I wouldn't worry about stalls right night, your body is adjusting to everything.  Good luck.
(deactivated member)
on 7/22/10 2:30 pm - Menomonee Falls, WI
Hi Singapore girl=
I am a diabetic for most of my life.  I can not ever have fruit juice because it is packed with concentrated carbohydrates in the form of fructose.  1/2 cup is 70 calories too.  3 cups would be 420 calories.  Google your medication and find out about weight stall or gain from it.  Daisy
ZannaCanada
on 7/22/10 6:25 pm
In my dieting experience there is a fine line between eating little enough to lose weight and still enough that my body doesn't go into conservation mode. For example, years ago I lost only 10 pounds over 6 months on weigh****chers combined with 3 times per week at Curves. And the weeks I lost were the weeks I cheated.

Also, I've read on OH (but don't remember which thread or forum) where someone found they had to increase their food intake to get past their stall.
warmmorningsun1
on 7/22/10 6:32 pm - Baton Rouge, LA
I am not at all glad to see your story, just soo soo glad to see I'm the only one who has had issues. I thought mine was related to insulin resistance; I have had that addressed. I'm now 2 lbs down after 19 months! I no longer have the desire to do anything about it, I feel like a freak that my surgery didn't work
(deactivated member)
on 7/22/10 6:58 pm - NC

I don't understand it either.  Do you feel restriction?  After I eat 3oz of protein like they say to I still feel hungry, I don't feel the restriction a lot of people talk about, I think I would have to eat a lot to feel it and I don't want to do that.  I feel like there is something wrong with me when I read about people who get full from water or 1/2 an egg.

What was your revision from?
warmmorningsun1
on 7/22/10 7:17 pm - Baton Rouge, LA
I feel a minor amount of restriction; I can eat an entire sandwich.  no problem.  if I eat protein, I can easily eat a chicken breast.  I was revised from a lap band.  I wish I could say I exercise and eat the way I should but after this long, I have gotten so discouraged I rarely try.  Sorry to be so down about it, and I don't want to discourage others, it's just hard to know I'm the one who's off.  I had much more restriction with the band, but more complications as well.

Banded 06/07/06 Start 305; Lost to 235; Gained to 249, so.....
Sleeved 11/24/08!  Started at 249/Current 227.8/Goal 160
(deactivated member)
on 7/23/10 4:33 pm, edited 7/23/10 4:35 pm - Menomonee Falls, WI
I think the VSG is better than the band. Many of us are discouraged because we never get close to goal. I can eat a whole chicken breast and an entire cucumber with peels and not feel like I have eaten anything. I know all about no restriction. I seriously could weigh 300 lbs easily. There are a lot of us. Every surgery is different. Discouragement just adds fuel to the fire. April 2009 I finally started plain old counting calories and dropped about 35 lbs. I realized I am fighting an up hill battle. I emailed my surgeon's office in Feb. 2010 and after a week they said he'd help me. Then after another week his nurse called and said his quality assurance dept. wouldn't let him help me. That 2 weeks of hope ended up putting me into a huge funk. I can't go anywhere else so I am just screwed. I have one long tube from my 2 oz pouch, past my non existent stoma down a very short bypass. Once I swallow food just disappears into the great black hole of a gut. My blood sugar rises and then comes crashing down. Fortunately my diabetic dietitian has helped me with a food plan to keep my blood sugars somewhat stable since January 2010. I have to eat 6 meals a day low carb, low fat and low glysemic index so I cook A LOT. Weight is coming off slowly again since June because I have to eat so much to keep up the blood sugar. Please don't be down on yourself. Lots of us are in the same boat. It is not our fault because we have mechanical failures. Obviously your stomach is too big still. Try to fill up on lower calorie foods maybe? I really don't know how to make a failing VSG work. Maybe you need to accept a higher goal weight and be happy with it. I upped my goal weight from 145 to 165 or maybe just under 170 because without a revision that is the best I can do. Just remember you are not alone and some surgeries work better than others. My husband always says my surgery failed me I didn't fail my surgery... Daisy