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    Topic: RE: Max HR
    I would say to go by feel for now.  Personally I have never really used my HR as an indication of how hard I am working.  I do know though that if I am at 180, I am working my ass off and I am not talking to anyone.  In the 160's I am still working pretty hard and conversation is limited.  My guess is that the HR monitor is off.  If talking is possible but kind of a nuisance, you are working pretty hard. 
    Scott

    Link to my running journal
    http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1303681

    4 full's - 14 halves - 2 goofy's and one Mt. Washington!
    Topic: RE: Race Report-New Orleans Ironman 70.3 (67.1)
     Great report.. I guess I can empathize with you the most, having had a similar situation happen at Poconos HIM last year (we didn't even get the 2 mile run to start, just the bike and run).  Its dissappointing, but you rocked it nonetheless.  If you are like me, it makes you want that swim so much more.. I am really looking forward to the swims this year!  And to think last year I was deathly afraid of them!  


    Topic: RE: Tuesday Workouts!!
     3000 yard swim in about 65 minutes, and a 30 minute 5k right afterward.  One of those workouts that hits you a few hours afterward for sure... 


    Topic: RE: Running/Jogging Advice
     Thanks.  Ialso got great advice similar to both of these from my programs Exercise Physiologist.


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     160 lbs lost. Surgeons Goal Reached in 33 weeks.  My Goal in 37 Weeks.

    VSG: 11/2/2011; LBL+Thigh Lift+BL: 10/3/2012; Brach+Mastopexy:  Planned for  2013

    Topic: RE: Running/Jogging Advice
     What Kim said.

    I'd add: don't try to run as fast as you can.  You definitely won't get very far.  Do whatever you think might be "jogging", and see how that feels.  You can always increase speed, but when you start out like a rocket, it can get very discouraging.
    Read my blog, BARIATHLETE   I run because I can.

    First 5K race October 4, 2009   (34.59)  PR 5/22/11 (27:26)
    First 5 Mile: January 1, 2011 (50:30)
    First 10K: July 4, 2010 (1:03.26) New PR 4/10/11 (1:01.14)
    First 10 Mile: April 11, 2010  (1:46.15)
    First 1/2 marathon: June 13, 2010 (2:22.21)  PR: 5/1/11 (2:17.30)
    First Marathon: October 16, 2011: 5:47:20

    Goofy Challenge: January 7-8, 2012
    If you think you can, you can.  If you think you can't, you're right. - Mary Kay Ash
    Topic: RE: Tuesday Workouts!!
    rest day for me.  pseudo planned.
    Where are we going??  And why am I in this handbasket??

    right now.  somewhere.  somebody is working harder than you.

    Topic: RE: Race Report-New Orleans Ironman 70.3 (67.1)
    you're still a rock star!  great run split after what sounds like a nasty bike.

    what channel and when will your story be aired?  i will DVR it.
    Where are we going??  And why am I in this handbasket??

    right now.  somewhere.  somebody is working harder than you.

    Topic: RE: Race Report-New Orleans Ironman 70.3 (67.1)
    Thanks for sharing the race report.
    I'm sorry the race wasn't what you wanted, that can be really irritating and play games with your motivation.  You did an awesome job getting through that and putting in a great effort.

    Congrats.

    Scott

    The first time you do something - It's going to be a personal record!

    Topic: RE: Running/Jogging Advice
     Thanks!  


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     160 lbs lost. Surgeons Goal Reached in 33 weeks.  My Goal in 37 Weeks.

    VSG: 11/2/2011; LBL+Thigh Lift+BL: 10/3/2012; Brach+Mastopexy:  Planned for  2013

    Topic: Tuesday Workouts!!
    Hello?  Is anyone awake yet??

    Today I'll do yoga when I get home.
                 
         
    Topic: RE: Running/Jogging Advice
    Many people have success using the Couch to 5K program.

    I just started running.  I ran intervals on my treadmill for about a year, and got bored.  So I decided to "take it outside".  There is a nice 4 mile paved, walking/running/biking path near my home.  I went there, put on my iPod and started running.  I could barely run at first!  It took many months for me to be able to run a full mile without stopping.

    I have arthritis in my knees so they often dictate how much I can actually run.  Ironically, the more I run, the less problems I have with my knees.

    Some pointers:

    1)  GET FITTED FOR GOOD RUNNING SHOES.  Go to a running store and get fitted and buy them there.  They cost approx $100.  The best money I ever spent.  Make sure you spend some time stretching and warming up before you run.
    2)  Google "breathing while running".  You'll find several good articles about controlling your breathing, which is key to building endurance.
    3)  Listen to your body.  If you feel pain, stop running.  Walk a bit and then try again.  If you still feel pain, do not run.  It is far easier to ease into it than to recover from an injury.
    4)  For me, I must have my music!  It keeps me from hearing my breathing so I don't know how tired I really am!
    5)  Just do it!  Get out there and set goals for yourself....There are tunnels on my path, so when I was starting out I'd tell myself "just run to the tunnel, then you can walk".....
    6)  MOST IMPORTANT-HAVE FUN!

                 
         
    Topic: Race Report-New Orleans Ironman 70.3 (67.1)

    This wasn't the race I wanted. I wanted a real 70.3 For an early season half I was having trouble deciding between this race, Rev3 Knoxville, and Orlando 70.3. I picked New Orleans because I have never been to New Orleans, and I thought lightning doesn't strike twice, and since the swim was canceled last year, I though we would be good this year. Left South GA with my best friend Loraine at 3 a.m. Saturday morning. Long boring drive. About 40 minutes from New Orleans we decided to stop for lunch so were would have to try getting lunch in the city. While at lunch I got the email that I was dreading, the swim was canceled. On top of that, the bike course was shortened to 52 miles, and there would be a 2 mile run to start the race, so this was going to be a long course duathlon. I had so many emotions running through me, I was mad, I was pissed off, I was upset, and then I was depressed. I can't believe I drove almost 12 hours for a long-course duathlon.

     

    After we finished eating lunch I was no longer excited about the race. Too much went into it to turn back. The hotel was already paid for, my mother and law had flown in all the way from California to help Joel with the girls while I was gone, my best friend took time off of work to come with me, and a cameraman from the big news station in Atlanta was there to get coverage of me doing the race. It would have been highly rude and selfish for me not to do the race with all these factors. We got to the expo and did check in. Bought a few small things, and finally got a aqua sphere mask I have been eying for months.Went to the hotel and I tried to mentally prepare for the race the next day, and to get over the disappointment that is wasn't going to be a 70.3

     

    Got to the race site around 5:15 a.m. It was 58 outside but with the wind and gusts it felt really cold. Set up transition quickly since there wasn't much to set up. Me and Loraine stood around for awhile but we were so cold we decided to go sit in the car until 6:30 or so. We found the camera guy and he told me he would be on a motorcycle on the bike and run course to get footage of me. The race was the start at 7, the were keeping the same swim waves for the first run with supposedly the same start times, but that quickly went out the window.

     

    The start was really unorganized. Every wave they had 2 people go off every 10 seconds in a time trial fashion. My age group was dead last, were we supposed to go off at 7:27. They ended up starting my age group after 8, I went off around 8:05, I was the second to last person of the whole race to start. I took it easy and decided to to the first 2 mile run at an easy pace just to warm up. First run time (2 miles)was 16:44

     

    Due to unforeseen feminine issues that occurred 2 days before this race, both transitions were longer than I wanted them to be, and I will shut up about that now and leave it at that. T1 time was 4:06

     

    The issue with the race being shortened was because of strong winds. Strong winds canceled the swim, and shortened the bike course because of debris from the wind. I was riding my Sram S60s with a disc cover on the back wheel. Since I was second to last to start the whole race I passed 100 people or so. The only time things got sketchy with the disc was on the tall bridges we had to go over close to the sea wall, at the very tops of the bridges I could feel the wind pushing the disc and I had to work to stay on the bike. Other than that no problems. I kept nutrition to a minimum, jus****er, ironman perform, and a few shot blocks. The headwinds were brutal, but since I live and train in flat with headwinds I was able to hammer these sections. When I got to the dismount line I didn't realize how much I spent myself on the bike course. After hammering the headwinds I just felt wrecked. Bike split (52 miles) was 2:44

     

    See issues from T1, T2 time was 6:36

     

    The day before, after finding out the course was altered, I had to set a goal for myself to get me through the race. I set a goal of a sub 2 hour 13.1 mile run split. The run course was great, plenty of enthusiastic volunteers at the aid stations. The run was 2 laps with 2 out and back sections. I think I liked this run course because this is how I do my run training, multiple laps with out and backs. The first lap I felt great, head up, decent pace. There were a few hills but nothing too serious. At the turn around heading out to the second lap got some mojo from the crowd and a high five from Loraine. Second lap was not as good as the first. I could feel my left Achilles getting rubbed raw and it hurt. I was also just plain tired, I was pulling out all the mental strength I could muster to get through the race, I looked down at the ground a lot on this second lap, that is always my tired and true coping method. I was hurting, and looking at my watch I knew sub 2 hours was possible, but it would be close. The whole run I only used water and ironman perform for nutrition, I felt like it was all I needed. Mile 12 I gritted my teeth and pushed through the last mile, at 12.5 there was one last hill, I dug deep to get up it. When I saw the finisher's chute I knew I was sub 2 hours. Since it didn't feel like a real 70.3 I just crossed the finish line without doing the arm raise. Run time (13.1)was 1:56

     

    Got my finisher's medal and mylar blanket. My legs were hurting bad so when Loraine found me I leaned on her for a minute. She took me somewhere to sit down. It felt great to sit. I told her a few things about the race. She told me about her day as a spectator, I was surprised to hear about all the crashes at the bike dismount line, even by pros. She told me everyone just looked wrecked after the bike, so at least now I know it wasn't just me. Got some post race food, attempted to drink a post race beer but just wasn't feeling it. Pack up my stuff and grabbed my bike and left back to the hotel.

     

    total race time 5:09:10

     

    I have a lot of mixed emotions about this race. I don't know what to call it for one. In my mind, even after this weekend, I still only have one 70.3 under my belt. I had been looking forward to this race all winter, and worked so hard on my swimming to get ready for. I think this race has potential, but I don't think I will race it again, swim being canceled 2 years in a row is just bad mojo. Gives me a chance to try another early season half iron race next year. I am now super pumped up for Muncie 70.3 on July 7th.





     


    Jillian
    Operation Iraqi Freedom Veteran, Army Wife, Ironman Finisher
    www.fattytoironmom.com

    Join me on Team Red White and Blue to race in support of our wounded warriors. It's Our Turn! www.teamrwb.org

    Topic: RE: Cycling!
    40 miles is really impressive.  I'm glad you've found a form of exercise you love!

    HW: 270 SW: 234.4 CW: 135.0 1stGW:149 (GOAL MET)afreshstart-hreneeh.blogspot.com/
    1st 5k: 5/12/12 44:55  PR 4miles: 12/31/2012 35:49
      

    Topic: Running/Jogging Advice
    I need some advice people:

    I never could really run before, I was just too heavy and it hurt my joints like heck.  I have lost a good amount of weight on ellipticals, stationary bikes, and by walking.  My weight loss is slowing down so I want to amp it up.  I am going to start running in the evenings.

    I don't really get good workouts on gym equipment, because I just can't get into it mentally - I get too bored which doesn't happen outdoors.

    Im a running newbie, so I want some advice on what to do to do this safely and effectively?  Whats the best way for a newbie to get started.  I'd like to work my way up to maybe being able to participate in a 5K this fall.

    Any and all advice is welcomed.

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     160 lbs lost. Surgeons Goal Reached in 33 weeks.  My Goal in 37 Weeks.

    VSG: 11/2/2011; LBL+Thigh Lift+BL: 10/3/2012; Brach+Mastopexy:  Planned for  2013

    Topic: RE: Monday workouts
     30 min on elliptical at allarmingly slow pace.

    Either going to do sprints at track this afternoon or do 40min of Zumba on the Xbox360.  

    HW: 270 SW: 234.4 CW: 135.0 1stGW:149 (GOAL MET)afreshstart-hreneeh.blogspot.com/
    1st 5k: 5/12/12 44:55  PR 4miles: 12/31/2012 35:49
      

    Topic: RE: Monday workouts
    Had a day off Saturday and only once in the gym on Sunday...so Monday was a two day work out.  Morning...Treadmill...complete hills and afternoon, and exciting Power Cling/Ring dip workout at crossfit.  Completed the CFFB Lizzie (with less weights-only 50 on the clings) in 6 min 33 seconds....

    Stacey
    RNY-10/27/04

    Topic: RE: p90x? jillian michaels? wii games?
     I love my P90X workouts.  I don't do the complete thing right now I use ab ripper X (once I'm 6 weeks out I'll be back to it), shoulders & arms (I really struggle with these 2) and legs and back.  I also do Zumba (using my Xbox 360), run/walk and kettlebells (LOVE THEM).  I'm definitely still in the process of losing but for every 10lbs I lose I notice a definite kick up in my ability to exercise and improve.  I get bored doing the same thing every day so I have to mix it up.  And I think my body like that too!  

    As for Jillian, I find most of her videos exceedingly boring and her kettlebell routine is downright dangerous.
    I do have a few Bob DVDs thrown in that I use too, his ab workouts are a nice addition to ab ripper and I like his kettlebell routine (be prepared that it will be really difficult to go up stairs and sit for a day or so after!) which is actually taught correctly. 

    HW: 270 SW: 234.4 CW: 135.0 1stGW:149 (GOAL MET)afreshstart-hreneeh.blogspot.com/
    1st 5k: 5/12/12 44:55  PR 4miles: 12/31/2012 35:49
      

    Topic: Max HR
     So when reading a few of the running blogs they are often talking about what zone they want their heart rate in and then the max heart rate.  I'm still obese so I know my heart isn't going to be efficient.  but anytime I do any sort of prolonged exercise my heart rate stays in the 168-180 range.  I can still talk at that stage and don't feel awful but all the bells and whistles on the machines yell at me to slow down.  If I slow down to the levels they say I "should" be at I don't feel like I'm getting much of a work out and really don't even sweat.  

    So how do I figure out where I should be?  Should I just go by how I feel and screw my HR for now?  

    HW: 270 SW: 234.4 CW: 135.0 1stGW:149 (GOAL MET)afreshstart-hreneeh.blogspot.com/
    1st 5k: 5/12/12 44:55  PR 4miles: 12/31/2012 35:49
      

    Topic: RE: Wondering if I can do it
    As Bill has pointed out you are learning a lesson we have all learned at some point on this forum, and that is we don't talk people out of obtaining their goals here.

    I just finished my first sprint Tri last month and with as nervous as I was I can say it was probably one of the best times I have had while doing something fitness related. I had so much fun that I have another one in two weeks, and a half ironman in Sept.

    Just like with running the hardest thing to do will be to sign up and then show up, but giving the price of Tri registration fees if I pay for it I am going to do it.

    Yes a tri requires a bit more out of you than a 5 or 10k but just like those races if you put in the time and training the reward will be well worth the work.

    Besides if you didn't want to do it you wouldn't have asked usif you should, now go register and start training!
    Paul C.
    First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op  (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
    First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03      
          First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
    First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (
    PR 2:24:35)   
    First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
    Topic: RE: Wondering if I can do it
    I've done two Ironmen and I don't own a tri bike.  Heck, when I signed up for my first Sprint Tri, I didn't even own a bike!

    Just do it!

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