Is there ANYONE here who is NOT getting surgery?

You said "complications from any medical treatment only come from that medical treatment. I guess no one should pursue any sort of medical treatment"

NO, I didn't say that. What I meant was that one shouldn't have UNNECESSARY surgery, especially when it's as risky as WLS.

And I'm not angry at people who have gotten WLS. Most of them had no idea there was any other option. They thought it was the only way, but it's not. I'm angry at the hospitals who are pushing it like drugs to people because it makes them lots of money. They completely ignore other options and all the risks involved.

>> Most of them had no idea there was any other option.

I strongly suggest you talk to some of the folks here who've had WLS. Many of us spent YEARS trying every diet out there, IF included. And I'm not aware of ANYONE here who had surgery "pushed" on them; if anything, many of us had to fight with insurance to have it covered.

I was a morbidly obese person who now has a BMI of 20 after the VSG surgery. So um? You're wrong.

Wrong about what? I never said surgery didn't work. I said it's unnecessary because you can get exactly the same results without it, And you can. I'm living proof.

A single case is not sufficient proof in the medical/scientific world :)

I quite agree. Anecdote != data. Unfortunately for you, I am just one of many thousands who prove it every day. Feel free to google it.

The fact that you seem to think Google anecdotes en mass are of similar quality as controlled medical studies would explain a lot about this conversation.

Curious to know how you are living proof. Pic? Weight? How much do/did you have to lose?

I had to lost at least 200lbs. So far I've lost about 40 in about 3.5 months. No surgery, no "diets", no killing myself on the treadmill, no cost, no hassle, no giving up the things I like to eat forever.

Points of your ignorance:

1: Lifestyle change is a frequent topic of discussion on OH.

2: Surgery is a great way to lose weight.

3: Weight can easily be regained after any method of weight loss and studies show those with bariatric and metabolic surgery have lower rates of regain.

4: Not all surgeries "reroute guts."

5: Obesity's often complications are permanent as well - like death, for instance.

6: What is normal eating? Eating in the ways that got a person to obesity? Most of us eat normally - it's just a new, healthier normal.

7: For that matter, how is fasting "normal eating?" Or any other fad diet you've tried or will try?

8: There are also hundreds of studies (and videos) about the benefits of bariatric and metabolic surgery.