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So glad to hear you are doing so well after having a three in one surgery! I too couldn't handle the morphine, but I had a heads-up from my sister and DD that is was the cause of there ill feelings. So, after pushing the button a few times I realized what was happening and stopped. They took it down and dumped it the next am.
Our center puts all us sleevers on a PPI for the first year. I take yours don't. Glad to hear you aren't having issues. Sounds like your having a very good experience
WOW! Didn't realize you were still in the hospital. I know you were hoping to be home for Mothers Day. Yah, those IV pounds sure are a bummer. When I got the band I think I came home the next day and 18 pounds heavier. When I was sleeved it was only a 12 pound gain. Get better soon.
WOW didn't realize they were all in the last 5 days. Big hug hope you get feeling better soon.
My surgeon does the surgery in two parts so our tummies can heal from the band before revision. Some on here have told of problems for as long as 2 months. I know I was able to eat too much the first two months and had to tell myself to measure out. After 2 moths, my nerves must have healed some as then I started feeling full on the measured amounts.
It does get better. You went thru a lot and It will just take longer. Have you had any more test to see if all is still well?
It seems that a lot of people that have the revision in one surgery have a harder time. Stick with the fluids on and NO rebelling. Let your stomach rest and heal as much as it needs to.
I am on a FB page for people having all different WLS at the same time.
From all I have researched us revisions are slower than virgin WLS. With that said I am still losing as much as the slowest virgin VSG/RNY that didn't have tons to lose. When I had the band their goal for me was to lose 40% EWL which put me at 210. I hit that and a few more the first year. When I got the sleeve they expected a 60% EWL which put me at 186, using my "idea" weight at bmi 25 is 150. I hit my "success weight" with the center at 4 months.
You are only 2 months out and your body needs to heal. You have had all your nerve endings cut and they have to heal. I was band to sleeve and for the first couple months I didn't think I had revision either and that I was going to fail. It is very important to measure as your new pouch doesn't have any feeling to tell you it is full.
I also had the stalls and even a gain at 3/4 weeks out. I UPPED my protein to 100+g and my calories to 1000-1200 at 2 months out and have lost 35 pounds since surgery (45 with the pre-op diet.)
I am on a FB page foe people having all different WLS at the same time. Almost all had a big lost than a stall at least twice in the first couple months. It has to do with the way the body breaks down fat and stores it to be freely used by the body. Unfortunately doctors aren't required to study nutrition but give advise on it.
From all I have researched us revisions are slower than virgin WLS. At that I am still losing as much as the slowest virgin VSG/RNY that didn't have tons to lose. When I had the band their goal for me was to lose 40% EWL which put me at 210. I hit that and a few more the first year. When I got the sleeve they expected a 60% EWL which put me at 186. My "idea" weight at bmi 25 is 150. I had hit my success weight with the center at 4 months.
Keep the faith, fallow your plan and remember it is normal to have periods of weight loss and stalls.
I didn't have mine in one day as our surgery center makes you wait in between to allow you to heal. I was upset at first until he gave reasons, recommendations and stats. I was glad to have it done in two after seeing that almost all having complications were done in one. Many having the all in one don't have problems. But those that do and have more pain are all-in-one.
Does he give you a choice?
This thread was from 2010 and might not be here anymore.
From all I have read and understand the RNY after a sleeve is the worst of both. Try talking to the good people on the DS boards. Many have been thru this and are more knowledgeable about the ills of this combo. They also are the people that can help you appeal.
I was reading your other thread too. It seems to me you would be a candidate to try to force them to approve the DS. Have you talked to the DS people? If any one can help you to get what you want/need they can. They speak highly of your surgeon there too. Good luck!
I understand that! That would be your only option at our center and my insurance too. But, I would have to self pay before going from sleeve to RNY.
Why isn't he wanting to do sleeve to DS as you already have the first half done? Why lose your pyloric valve? I just don't understand this revision? Did you ask about the DS?
Our center has both. The surgeon told me they were only doing the realize band as some patient said they wanted it and would go some place else for it. He felt the lap had a longer track record and had already changed it to improve it. Take it for what it is worth. I personally haven't done any research. I now the lap has pillows all the way around and that the realize was solid but one area didn't cover. Just the info from the surgeon.
I had documentation of all the medical issues with the band. I had testing and total unfil for 6 weeks a year out and for 8 weeks at 2 years out. Every fill and unfill was documented. The testing of course as they paid for it. I could show I lost that first year before being unfilled. I could show I had gained every time unfilled. They agreed to pay to remove it based on medical problems. Once they went in and removed the band, with the photo of how it looked after, they determined it was caused by medical problems and NOT non compliance.
My insurance had a once in a lifetime WLS policy no matter who paid for the original surgery.
I do know that some surgeons will do non covered work at the same time as covered. Plastic surgeons can do the surgery while covered work is being done and just charge for the difference. I, myself was researching getting the sleeve in Mexico in case the insurance here wouldn't cover it. I spent months on the Mexico boards and felt good with a couple surgeons. Than someone here gave me the info for the surgeon in Ohio and I could get the surgery here for not much more. Once I was approved I blew the info away. Sure wish I hadn't. It was a lot less than 12,000.
That said, my center charged the insurance 40,000+ for the band and 60,000+ for the sleeve, so 12,900.would be a deal.
I was band to sleeve but at about 3 weeks out I had a gain. Than I didn't lose any for the next months. I am losing slower so with your first surgery it may have been you just lost less at this time. Also how much less did you you weigh when you had this surgery than the first? I too have only 40 to lose and if it is off in one year I will be shouting from the roof tops.
Just keep with the program. You will continue to lose.
I thought you were doing rny to rny, how did you end up with a sleeve?
You are on the right forum! You just might find people that have had the revisions and only post now on their new surgery forums.
I revised from the band to sleeve. I had my band out for 4.5 months before revision for the same reason. The high risk leak rate is for revision in one surgery according to my surgeon. His rate for band to sleeve is only .15% and two where the very first sleeves they did so with each surgery there rate is droping.
I would ask him how many band to RNY surgeries he has done and what his leak rate is. It is important to have an experienced revision surgeon. I wasn't sure from your post what he is saying the leak rate is. If you are saying he has a leak rate of 33% of his revisions, you need a different surgeon or a different surgery.
For me the weight loss wasn't slower at the start because I didn't really lose with the band until several fills/months out. At four months our with the sleeve, I have lost all the regain from the band being out and and now 15 pounds less than I ever weighed with the band and 20 pounds less than the "expected loss" with the band.
Can you check out another center/doctor? My insurance would pay to remove the band for medical necessity but, I had to fight for the sleeve.
We couldn't take any pills either. We had to break open Prilosec and pump the insides into a spoon/medicine cup and take sips of water to get them down.