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Bree ..
NH
Member Since: 11/22/06
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So the other day one of my mother's friends found out i was having wls and told me about her cousin. She had sleep apnea and had a cpap machine before she went in for her surgery, her surgery went great, but well she was recovering in the hospital they didn't put the cpap machine on her and she died from sleep apnea, because the anaesthesia had her in more of a deep sleep she obviously wasnt waking up when she stopped breathing... there was no reason for her cpap machine not to be on her there was one right next to her bed. So I thought i would post this here just to make other people aware that this can happen i know i am leaving specific instructions to have my cpap put on immediately after my surgery and i will have family there to make sure that happens. I know everyone hates there cpap so much but what a shame for her to finally get wls and not even make it home from the hospital when it could have been prevented so easily.


 Highest 315/ Day of Surgery 301 / Current 245 / Goal 140

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It's really sad to hear that happened to someone.   Sleep apnea is indeed a surgery risk - that's why they have everyone checked out prior to ok'ing them for the procedure. I have fairly severe apnea.  On bi-pap pressures of 22/15.  There's another side to Cpap/Bi-pap use after surgery, though, that needs to be mentioned. 1.  Everyone needs to follow what their surgeon tells them they need to do.  If that means bringing the machine to the hospital, that's what you do.  No "tweaking" of surgeon's orders. 2.  There is an inherent risk of breathing issues with anesthesia that are NOT related to sleep apnea.  It's hard to judge based on a third-hand account, but it seems to me the anesthesia was more of the culprit here, not the presence or absence of the Cpap machine.   Even with my severe apnea - I didn't have Cpap put on me immediately post-op.  I was put on nasal cannula O2, and the respiratory tech came in later that night and set my machine up to have the O2 added to my Bi-pap mask.  The hospital monitors vitals constantly, they should have/could have kept her on a ventilator to keep her breathing regulated - they worry about Cpap only after you've been cleared of other complications after surgery and it's clear you're in a regular recovery state.  Sounds like there was some irresponsible decision-making going on, unrelated to Cpap. 3.  There HAVE been cases where the Cpap-Bipap has caused physical problems with the pouch immediately post-op.  Some people's pressures are so high (as with mine) - that air gets into the throat/esophagus, and the air has been known in some people to rupture the new internal sutures of the pouch.  Check out the Sleep Apnea forum archives for more info on that.  Not a problem for most people, but for some it can be an iissue.  That's why it's so important for people to use their machine prior to surgery to get a feel for how their Cpap air flow behaves, they can discuss any concerns with their surgeon prior. Even with my level of apnea, and the fact that I have to be on Bi-pap (not for comfort, but for necessity) - I did just fine with simple 02 immediately after surgery.  You'll be on a ventilator during the surgery as normal procedure.  Putting a C-pap mask on you, if the anesthesia is affecting your breathing, may not actually improve the situation - as I mentioned before, the responsible thing is to keep the patient on a ventilator and not take the chance on the apnea interrupting things. That's why you go to a recovery room until you wake up - they don't wheel you into your normal room until your vitals are stable and you've been 'roused from anesthesia.  There may be more to the story than you heard, but in any case, it's very sad to hear.

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I was instructed to absolutely NOT use my CPAP after surgery as it could damage my pouch.. 
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mkw269
NJ
Member Since: 10/16/06
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My doctor Instructed me not to bring the cpap machine to the hospital.  I machine blows air into your stomach and it gives you more gas.  After coming home, I could not use the machine for about two weeks. 
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Melonie P.
York, PA
Member Since: 10/17/06
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I was also told not to use my cpap right after surgery by my surgeon because of the effects on my healing pouch. I stayed off mine for about 2-3 wks postop - till my surgeon told me ok again. I actually like my cpap and feel better using it - which I still am now that I am 6 mths out. I will have to be reevaluated soon to see if my setting is correct, but I am following dr orders. Please discuss this with your surgeon.



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tinymitchell
shoreham, VT
Member Since: 09/10/06
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All very interesting. I was told to bring mine. In recovery I didnt have it but the machine monitoring my breathing would sound an alarm and the techs along with my wife would shake me awake to breath. I also had a tech come in every night durring my stay to check my c pap and to ask whether or not I was using it. I will confess I didn't use it like I should of because it was very uncomfortable as it was trying to sleep. 
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Cindy H.
Seminole, FL
Member Since: 12/27/06
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My surgeon requires you to bring it to the hospital with you for use immediately after the operation. I personally cannot sleep soundly without mine. I keep waking up without it.

Take care,

Cindy





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jodilynn
VGB (06/19/07)
Member Since: 09/14/06
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Thank you so much everyone for the posts.. My mom has Sleep apnea and will be going in for WLS (rny) in the next year. I have undiagnosed SA. I have been told by all that I have it but no one has actually ever checked. I go to the U of MN in may I will ask then.. Thanks again!!!

Hugs, Jodi Lynn

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I know that the thread has derailed some from the original topic of pre-op to post-op... but... heh, I have more derailing.  I just had surgery Tuesday.  I was told to bring my CPAP.  It was inspected by the hospital and stickered saying so.  The CPAP was used during surgery as well as that night and every night after.  Use of CPAP post-op seems to be one of many things that very from doctor to doctor. Back on topic, I was reading the memorial section of OH leading up to my surgery and noticed that there were a couple of people who died during surgery due to the CPAP not being used.  As part of my pre-op regimine of appointments, I met with the anisteezeologist (hey, I sounded it out ) where we went over the use of CPAP.  It was also brought up when I visited the lung doctor and the surgeon.
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Dew
White Pine, TN
Member Since: 09/21/06
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Thanks,   This really scares me B-cause I have apnea bad, and can't take a nap without my Bi-pap. My pressure is high and fluctuates up and down my machine is set on Ipap16 Epap 11 and sometimes this isn't enough I have trouble sleeping some nights.  I told Linda my wife to watch me really close while in the hospital, yes apnea is scary.  I remember b4 my machine I'd set up in bed gasping for air 10 to 12 times a night. When the doctor ordered a device to check my oxygen levels b4 the Bi-pap I had 142 episodes where my ox level would drop below 80%.
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chnsuz
Mt. Pleasant, MI
Member Since: 12/27/05
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My husband used a cpap before his WLS 2 years ago.  His surgeon told him that afterward not to use the cpap and he hasn't used it since.  They monitored his oxygen for the first couple days and he was fine.  After the surgery he didn't seem to have much trouble with sleep apnea and now - with the weight loss he doesn't have any apnea or snoring.
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