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Pot Smoking after Surgery

(deactivated member)
on 8/18/11 7:05 am - Columbus, OH
RNY on 03/10/11 with
 Anyone else find that after smoking pot, eating and keeping food down is much easier?  I almost have to smoke a lil before eating just to make sure my food stays down...just wondering if anyone else is find this to be true...?

~K
5 1/2 mo post op

curvaceousdiva
on 8/18/11 7:07 am - Hyattsville, MD
LOL
BUT pot never did anythign for me so I have no idea
Babygirl got her surgery March 3rd...     She's from 339 to 200 as of 6/14/2012.. SOO proud of my bigbabygirl                                                                   
HogRider
on 8/18/11 7:18 am - Jacksonville, FL
I always follow medical advice (wink wink).
Tonya0531
on 8/18/11 7:19 am - Lake, MS
LMAO...I don't know about keeping food down, but it sure would help in dealing with my mother this weekend!!!     However...on another note, my doc won't even do surgery on you if you smoke ANYTHING, so I'm not so sure how good that would be for you.
Tonya
HW: 274  PreOp Diet: 271  Surgery: APRIL 25, 2011   
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I love my new life!!!
wynter57
on 8/18/11 7:24 am - Panama City, FL
Putting aside the fact that smoking anything is bad for your health and not to mention illegal.........

There is such a thing as addiction transference. Most or all of us are food addicts and some of us have an addictive personality. When you have this surgery to conquer or control your food addiction, but then you start drinking or doing drugs, you can transfer your addiction to one of those.

Also, it sounds like you already have a mindset that food goes down easier when you smoke weed first, you could be setting yourself up for an addiction to weed. And YES, no matter what anyone says, marijuana CAN be addictive. I know people who smoke it every single day. They have killed a LOT of brain cells, trust me, I can see it.

I hope you can find another way to make eating easier for you.

Wynter
 VBG Surgery 4/17/1989 - Revision TO RNY 8/22/2011 - 4 Days Prior To Surgery WT: 309.5

(deactivated member)
on 8/18/11 7:55 am - Columbus, OH
RNY on 03/10/11 with
On August 18, 2011 at 7:24 AM Pacific Time, wynter57 wrote:
Putting aside the fact that smoking anything is bad for your health and not to mention illegal.........

There is such a thing as addiction transference. Most or all of us are food addicts and some of us have an addictive personality. When you have this surgery to conquer or control your food addiction, but then you start drinking or doing drugs, you can transfer your addiction to one of those.

Also, it sounds like you already have a mindset that food goes down easier when you smoke weed first, you could be setting yourself up for an addiction to weed. And YES, no matter what anyone says, marijuana CAN be addictive. I know people who smoke it every single day. They have killed a LOT of brain cells, trust me, I can see it.

I hope you can find another way to make eating easier for you.

Wynter
 I've thought about addiction transferrance...and I am definitely keeping an eye on that.  I've tried to eat w/out smoking and usually have a problem, no matter WHAT I eat.  So to just alieviate that all togther I'll smoke..hit it once or twice...and then I have no issues.  It's crazy!  I've tried it both ways..with and without...

Anyway, just wondered if anyone else found this to be true.  


ladybugnessa
on 8/18/11 7:35 am - Owings Mills, MD
helps the belly pain and the back pain but beware the munchies...
Nessa
Ticker is from Day of Surgery.. weight goal is personal preference as I've MET my doctor's goal

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jazzycatz
on 8/18/11 7:44 am - Joppa, MD
RNY on 09/28/10 with

Taught myself to never eat after smoking because it kills the buzz.  I think if you use it now to eat it can trigger eating when you get closer to maintenance.  Your brain will just make that leap you know...stoned = eating and you'll just automatically head for the food before you even realize it.  And if it contributes to you eating more at a sitting...well you will be able to do that in time.  Best to teach yourself to eat without using anything to make it easier.     

Actually I just saw that you are 5.5 months post-op.  Really should be able to keep food down at this point without a lot of difficulty most of the time.  Have you talked to your surgeon?  Might be something going on. 

However, with nausea and arthritis pain it can be quite helpful.  Or so I have heard.   

Obligatory PSA: One must always be aware of the prospect of the psychological addiction that pot can lead to, however.  That is why I made the "Stoned=eating" analogy.

 

unewillow
on 8/18/11 8:24 am - CT
I wouldn't know...the first/last and ONLY time I smoked up I almost died. Literally. Vomitted for like 2 hours straight, tachycardia, sweating, chest pain...my friend was about 5 minutes from taking me to the ER.

I would just be VERY careful about transfer addiction and over-doing it at meal time after you smoke because you think things go down easier.
            
poet_kelly
on 8/18/11 9:05 am - OH
I've never tried it.  When I used to work for a hospice, I had some terminally ill clients that used pot so they could get food down.  People with cancer and AIDS seemed to find it really helpful.  I don't think I had any clients that smoked every time they ate, though.  They just did it at times they felt particularly nauseous.

Have you talked to your doc about why you can't get food down without pot?  Because while that seems to be pretty common with endstage cancer or AIDS, it's not normal five months after RNY.

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

(deactivated member)
on 8/18/11 9:33 am - Columbus, OH
RNY on 03/10/11 with
 My next appt w/my surgeon is in Sept and was going to mention it then...  Although I am a bit nervous to bring it up  lol
poet_kelly
on 8/18/11 11:32 am - OH
I wouldn't worry too much.  Surely your surgeon knows some people smoke pot.

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

Cleopatra_Nik
on 8/18/11 9:38 am - Baltimore, MD
RNY on 01/08/08 with
I've never smoked anything but I just want to thank you. The fact that you asked that question made my whole day and gives me new hope that we can, in fact, be a supportive community here.

In general, I am concerned about something though. Some nausea/pain is normal at first, but if you get in the habit of smoking to alleviate that you might miss what nausea/gut pain is meant to be which is a warning sign. I'd hate for you to get sick off of something because your senses were dulled by the marijuana (I like that better than "pot") and you didn't notice something was making you a bit ill.

So watch out for that. But again...THANK YOU! Most interesting thread in a loooong time.
(deactivated member)
on 8/18/11 9:59 am - Columbus, OH
RNY on 03/10/11 with
 I was hoping for no judgements when I posted this...and got none.  I'm convinced we can be a super supportive community.  YAY!  :)

I honestly just got so sick of tossing almost every bit of protein I put into my body.  Tuna.  Barf.  Chicken.  Barf.  Turkey.  Barf.  You get the idea here?  I was eating DORITO's, which was all my body would let me keep down.  Flipping DORITO's??  Isn't that what I should be avoiding?  LOL

ANYWAY, It's definitely gotten better...but I do still smoke from time to time..ok, just about every day.  My job is stressful and I enjoy just letting go when I get home.

I do think of transferance tho....so I worry (god I worry about everything, really!) about that to an extent...and I'm keeping an eye on it.  So is my family! LOL


Silk911
on 8/18/11 2:35 pm
Hi Chi Chi,

Thank you so much for a thread like this... !!!

I don't smoke pot but I might as well.... my hubby smokes it everyday before meals accept in the morning. He has an awful form of arthritis that attacks his internal organs as well as his bones.

Hi Arthritis has robbed him of an appetite. He now weighs about 115 lbs and is 5'10". Very underweight. The pot, not only, takes away most of the inflamation and dulls the pain in his bones but also gives him the 'munchies' and he can eat a whole meal again.

If it's too cold outside for him to smoke it, he smokes it in the house and I get the munchies too... lol.. even though I'm full, I want to eat more and more. So I've trained myself to grab a sugar free hard candy and suck on it instead of eating.

I was having trouble with keeping food down and my dietician taught me a trick. She said that my stomach needed to be 'primed' to be able to accept food. I thought it was a little weird but I listened. She said that about a half hour before eating to slowely drink a 1/2 cup of skim milk. It would prepare my stomach for food.

So I tried it for a week. Ya know what?? it worked like a dream. So while I'm making a meal, I have a little glass of milk to drink and get my stomach ready for food. You just need to make sure you finish the glass at least 15 mintues before eating to ensure that the stomach is empty.

Have fun, be careful of the transferrance and the amounts you will eat in the future with the munchies. My motto, Do whatever works for you!!

                                                                                                                                                                                    

        
antntar
on 8/18/11 11:26 am - philadelphia, PA
RNY on 03/07/11 with
So now after all the other responses we see that pot can be addicting...which means you will be getting the "munchies " often...which means your gonna, in the long run, probably end up eating either more then you should be or the wrong stuff...then your next post will be how did I put all of this weight back on?! let your body adjust to the surgery and go through what it needs to go through in order to heal and help you reach your goal weight. Why are you knowingly sabotaging yourself? Find other protein sources....eat slower...take smaller bites.... you will figure out how to eat and  keep it down.
    
(deactivated member)
on 8/18/11 11:40 am - Columbus, OH
RNY on 03/10/11 with
 LOL  well, I've been occassionally smoking for...oh...20 years or so.  I've stopped for years and then here and there indulge.  I'm definitely not addicted...but I CAN see how it can be helpful to ppl with chronic pain, etc.  I don't get "munchies"...I still have to force myself to eat whatever it is I'm eating...but I've noticed that it just makes it easier.  I've tried every protein source.  Meat (chicken, tuna, turkey, fish, hamburger, pork), Beans/Nuts, Shakes, etc.  I eat slow, I chew and chew until it's liquid, etc etc...

I don't believe I am sabotoging myself.  I am super sensitive to that, and definitely keep an eye out for anything I may be doing...as I said, I worry about everything... 

I just noticed that it makes it so much easier to eat what I am supposed to be eating.  I suppose eating after taking a hit or two is better than eating and tossing it and getting nothing! :-/


JerseyJim
on 8/18/11 11:58 am - Central, NJ
RNY on 05/23/11 with
Aren't you concerned about discussing your pot smoking on an open Internet forum like this?  It's not like you are anonymous.
HW: 381   SW: 360  CW: 190  GW: 185                
(deactivated member)
on 8/18/11 12:26 pm - Columbus, OH
RNY on 03/10/11 with
 Nope  :)
JerseyJim
on 8/18/11 12:46 pm - Central, NJ
RNY on 05/23/11 with
I'm not a pot smoker, but if I was I'd worry.  Our entire lives are written out on the Internet.  One quick search and you can learn everything about there is to learn about someone just by using their screen name (if they use the same screen name elsewhere).

This actually reminds me of that Facebook thing that was happening awhile back where people were posting things about their bosses/companies on FB, and it got back to their employers and they were fired.  Just something to think about. But not while you're high. That **** can make you paranoid. :)
HW: 381   SW: 360  CW: 190  GW: 185