Dealing with Pain when You Can't Take NSAIDS

poet_kelly
on 11/19/13 6:24 am - OH

When I had my RNY, I had no idea how much I would miss NSAIDS.  I miss them terribly!

I wanted to post a link to some information about dealing with pain when you can't (or choose not to, due to the risks) take NSAIDS, but also get some feedback on what works for other people.

So here is the link: Dealing With Pain When You Can't Take NSAIDS

I've been having pretty significant back pain lately.  The things that seem to work best for me are heat and some energy work, like Reiki.  Unfortunately, I am not able to get that done very often.  What works for you?

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chulbert
on 11/19/13 7:07 am - West Henrietta, NY
RNY on 01/21/13

I'm sorry you're in pain and I hope you find relief.  Thanks for the helpful information.

Though I'm a little disappointed to see a recommendation for snake oil like acupuncture.

poet_kelly
on 11/19/13 7:08 am - OH

Some people find acupuncture to be very helpful.  I haven't tried it myself.  But I know some people that have benefitted from it.

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PetHairMagnet
on 11/19/13 10:43 am - NC
RNY on 05/13/13
On November 19, 2013 at 7:07 AM Pacific Time, chulbert wrote:

I'm sorry you're in pain and I hope you find relief.  Thanks for the helpful information.

Though I'm a little disappointed to see a recommendation for snake oil like acupuncture.

Acupuncture is an effective way of dealing with many health issues that plague people and diminishing them as snake oil is as insulting as calling WLS the easy way out. 

This is a type of medicine that has a history far longer than that of our Western mindset and can be extremely beneficial. 

    

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chulbert
on 11/19/13 10:56 am - West Henrietta, NY
RNY on 01/21/13

Lots of things were done for a long time before we realized they didn't work.  History is not an indicator of truth.

Regardless, I do not want to derail this thread with a lengthy discussion on acupuncture.  Suffice it to say there is no clinical data to support its efficacy nor any evidence or plausible biological explanation for its core principles.

BellaSaid35
on 11/19/13 5:08 pm

Despite how you feel about acupuncture and its documented benefits, many people swear by it. Even if its a placebo effect, and works by the power of the mind, it still is an effective treatment for many people. You can't discount these people as a whole can you?

 

     
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H.a.l.a. B.
on 11/20/13 3:36 am
RNY on 05/14/08 with

http://www.mskcc.org/blog/clinical-trials-analysis-finds-acupuncture-effective-treating-chronic-pain

One of study that show effectiveness of acupuncture. And there are many more...

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H.a.l.a. B.
on 11/19/13 7:02 pm, edited 11/20/13 3:29 am
RNY on 05/14/08 with

I get acupuncture often. But like with as lot of things - you have to find a good practitioner to get full results.  I was very skeptical... But after she treated my shoulder injury, one that I was told would require surgery for, I become a believer.  At the end - my shoulder - rotator - is fully functional, no residue pain, or any other issues. 

Acupuncture is thousand old years practice that works.  But you would need is a really good practitioner. And there is a lot o clinical study about that.  Do your research. Just because we don't completely understand how it works - it does not mean it does not work. 

 

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Caroline K.
on 11/19/13 7:18 am

I find it depends on the situation. For some things, massage theraphy or chiropractic treatments in conjunction with heat packs or ice packs helped. After quite a bit of dental surgery, I had chronic pain in the temporomandibular joint. The only thing that worked for that was something called Bowen therapy (recommended by my dentist from his own personal experience).

fatfreemama
on 11/19/13 10:04 am - San Jose, CA
RNY on 12/07/09 with

My bariatric group did a seminar on what to take for pain after RNY.  Heat and/or ice were the first things.  Heat pulls the blood to the area, ice pushes it away.  There was no telling which was better, it was whatever worked for you.  When I'm in a lot of pain (like the gallstones before I had my gallbladder out), I like to go straight to vicadon.  Works best for me.  :D

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Ruby R.
on 11/19/13 11:18 am

This probably sounds a little silly when we are talking about bad pain, but what does Tylenol do for your pain?  So far, that is all I need for every day pains.  I am so sorry for your pain, please do not think i am making light of it. 

 

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AuntSugar
on 11/19/13 11:31 am - La Verne, CA
RNY on 10/26/10 with

My hips have recently gotten to the point where Tylenol doesn't always do the job.   My doctor prescribed Lidocaine patches for me and they are working.  I try the Tylenol first and if it doesn't help, I put on a patch.  They are quite large and she told me to cut them in half, which works perfectly fine. My insurance covers them.  

Ruby R.
on 11/19/13 1:56 pm

Glad you have found relief.

 

Ruby  

RNY 3/2005    

TurnThePage
on 11/19/13 12:30 pm

I've had great success with Cymbalta for my severe arthritis. It also treats the depression which often accompanies chronic pain. 

Bibo
on 11/19/13 12:44 pm

My bariatric nurse and I had a long talk about pain....I have several medical conditions which are quite devastatingly painful..I get lidocane injections in various joints and muscles, including my jaw, hip, knees, etc. I also see a pain management doc, who among other things has me doing patches and nerve block injections, which help some. I get topical creams containing potassium from a compounding pharmacy Triple K PO cream...I have had luck with cymbalta as well, except that that can cause nausea for me so I take promethazine with it (an anti nausea drug, 1/2 of the smallest dose) makes me very sleepy. Exercise helps, swimming, hot tub...one thing i did want to mention that there is IV tylenol, which is non narcotic...most of the time they have that at urgent care centers and hospital anesthesiologists know about it..my primary did not....which is WONDERFUL...lasts almost a week or better if you can get some of that....it's an IV though. If your pain is not helped with traditional methods, I recommend seeing a pain management specialist...they can do all kinds of referrals for physical therapy and stuff that does not involve taking a lot of internal drugs. Apparently the experience of physical pain is quite more intense after bypass for some patients..my allergy doc is the one that referred me to the pain management doc...and she is actually interested in researching the topic of pain after RNY...a lot of people seem to show up in her office with this. Hope you feel better

    
Sarahlicious
on 11/19/13 12:54 pm - Portsmouth, OH

I take NSAIDs when I need them. Actually I take a daily aspirin because I've had a DVT and a mini stroke, I am on Nexium to protect my stomach. My opinion is that we just need to be cautious with taking NSAID, know your individual risks but they can be medically needed, like if you need the anti-inflammatory in them as I do for heel spurs, I do not take daily sometimes go weeks without but if I'm traveling and extra active I need them for pain and I've dicussed the use with my PCP and WLS. We have to weight the risk, and I put my heart/head over my stomach in priority. I also put my ability to function over the stomach, if I need to take NSAID in order to move for the day then I take it.

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BellaSaid35
on 11/19/13 5:14 pm

I understand where you are coming from. I do not have chronic pain, but have just recently had a tummy tuck. The first 9 days were agonizing because the Percocet did not work for me. At all. When the doc prescribed Vicodin it was a bit better. 

Then I took a spill down the stairs and had severe swelling and pain.  At 11 days out from abdominal surgery, everything hurt. I broke down and took an ibuprofen. I cannot tell you the relief I had from pain. I sat and cried. 

I'm worried that being overweight for so long will cause arthritis later in life and I will have very little pain relief options. :(

     
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BelieveInFaith
on 11/19/13 5:53 pm - NJ
RNY on 08/08/13

Thanks for the link!  I am seeing a chiro right now and will be trying Reiki for the first time in two weeks.  I'm excited to try it!  My ankylosing spondylitis likes to remind me every morning when I initially stand up that it's here to haunt me.  So, anything that can possibly ease my aching and stiff joints I'm willing to give it a try.

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LilyBugsMommy
on 11/19/13 5:53 pm - Kingston, Canada
RNY on 03/12/13

Thank you for sharing! 

       

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netnay
on 11/20/13 9:23 am
RNY on 03/27/13
I totally understand where you are coming from with this. I have rheumatoid arthritis and Ibuprofen was my run to pain reliever before my surgery. Now this is where I know I will get my hand smacked with a ruler. I was having a bad time with heel spurs and plantar faciitis. The pain was so horrible that I hated to have to walk. I would take tylenol and my pcp even gave me Tramadol for the pain. Neither worked. I finally broke down and took Ibuprofen. I had made a podiatrist appt but it was going take several weeks before I could see him. That Ibuprofen made all the difference in the world!! My podiatrist gave me a cortisone shot and also I had molds made of my feet to fit me for orthotics insoles. I have had foot problems in the past but this time it was much worse. I felt like I had no other choice at the time.

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