Vets vs. Newbies?

I have been reading a lot about people complaining, saying that "vets" are rude and "all-knowing" , and reading a lot about "vets" feeling aggravated , because so many newbies are not following the "rules". 

We are all experiencing the same journey...

But our experiences are all unique.

I am frustrated. 

So many "vets" have admitted to drinking at least a six pack of soda a day, and some have even admitted to drinking so much beer in a sitting that they told me, "I do not recommend you keeping up with me".  

And yet, I am frustrated with "newbies" that admitted to smoking, and eating high fat and high sugar foods within the first couple of weeks post-op. 

And there are those "vets" and "newbies" that are withholding their true behavior. Both pre and post-op. 

I feel that we should all be supportive of each other. 

A verbal slap on the head is fine, as long as it is NOT overly cruel.

Helping a person does not have to equal cruelty. 

WTF?! And why? 

Let's support and encourage one another. 

No more condescension. No more angry and jealous words. 

Please...

Let's celebrate the beautiful gift that we have all been given.

Some of us will make more mistakes than others,

and that is OK.  

And if a person's chronic mistakes result in them receiving a revision,

then let's not make them hate themselves and feel that they have to hide their true behavior.  

The only way that they will learn from their mistakes is by being honest, and if when they are honest, they get slammed, then they will never learn, because they will NEVER be honest! 

It is not just them, or you or me.

We ALL make mistakes on this journey. 

It happens. None of us are perfect!  

Angry and cruel words are not always the way to go for everyone. 

Love you all.   

It's nice you love us all.  But if you truly love us all . . .  why are you making up things that never happened . . .   and trying so hard to start trouble? 

How is this an attempt at starting trouble? Again, I find that no one really read my post...

It really has to be one vs the other?   Sorry you feel like that

I'd suggest a glass of wine or six pack to make you feel better but that might elicit another "vets are terrible" rant (and I suspect you might have indulged already because surely you can't really feel like this without help,   )

Have a wonderful, drama filled day!

wow...just wow... Enjoy yourself sweetie

wow - what did you read?  one or two posts? 

Dust ups are going to occur every few weeks or so about something.  You aren't helping anything with this post IMO - just getting things started again.

I am editing to say again - how truly annoying I find this post.  Especially your last line. 

The F'ing pink is annoying - your fantasy land memory of people drinking 6 packs etc is annoying - I wish there was an emoticon of a donkey braying as I would post it in pink just for you

 

 

You really have not posted much in your 3 years here and really nothing in the past 5 months, yet you feel the need now to be a "forum nanny?" Good luck with that!! 

Not posting does not mean anything. All it means is that I am taking in what others say without feeling the need to put my 2 cents in...

And what is with thi "forum nanny" crap? Too many of you have spent way too much online. I am surprised that you are not using hashtags. 

You said,

Some of us will make more mistakes than others,

and that is OK.  

And if a person's chronic mistakes result in them receiving a revision,

then let's not make them hate themselves and feel that they have to hide their true behavior. 

 

WTF?  REALLY???  So if I see a "newbie" making a mistake (like eating a taco at the mall one week after surgery) I should just pat their little hand and say, "That's OK.  We all make mistakes"?  Eating tacos a week out has the potential to KILL YOU!  If I see someone making a huge mistake that I know will harm them physically or will screw with their success, I am going to call them out.  Support doesn't always mean "warm fuzzies".  Sometimes it means blatant honesty.  

I am a 28 year WLS vet (VBG in 1986).  I had a revision to RNY 4 years ago.  I know a thing or two about living life after WLS.  I know how to eat around the surgery, I know all the little head games we play with ourselves to justify our bad eating habits.  I can spot a potential failure from a mile away because I LIVED IT!  I have finally figured out that I stood in my own way with the first surgery.  I have finally figured this **** out and I am here to help others figure it out too.  I wish someone had cared enough about my success (with my first WLS) to get tough with me.  I would rather a person be successful with their first surgery than to see them have to go through a revision.  Revision surgeries are difficult for both the surgeon and the patient.

To all the "newbies" who feel "picked on"... toughen up.  This is not an easy road you took.  There are lots of temptations and times when you want to eat away your problems.  Do you want to be coddled or do you want the truth from someone who knows what you're going through?  There is not one vet on these boards who is here just to hurt you.  They all are here because they want you to succeed.  If you don't like someone's approach, you always have the option to block that person.  But know that, if you choose to do that, you will be limiting your own success.  Those "mean, old, vets" have a wealth of information that will help you succeed.

 

 I wish there was a like button for your post!!!