Bariatric Surgery Restaurant Cards

Lionetta
on 12/17/10 10:04 pm - AZ
I heard about these cards and it would be nice to print some out and carry them to use if needed!

Thought I'd share the link!

http://www.gastric-bypass-guru.com/restaurant-card-bariatric -surgery.html
  
pdaly0109
on 12/17/10 10:32 pm - Menifee, CA
My doctor doesn't recommend this card because the kids meals are almost all fried...I had a big to do with a waitress at Bob's big boy...But I am going to print this up anyways....Thanks for posting...
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WASaBubbleButt
on 12/17/10 10:50 pm - Mexico
Revision on 12/06/06 with
On December 17, 2010 at 10:04 PM Pacific Time, Leanne R. wrote:
I heard about these cards and it would be nice to print some out and carry them to use if needed!

Thought I'd share the link!

http://www.gastric-bypass-guru.com/restaurant-card-bariatric -surgery.html
 
I hate those cards....

From another poster:

  Way_Out_There
Member Since: 10/11/09
[Latest Posts]Post Date: 10/13/09 1:03 pm 
A “Restaurant Card” is a business cards sized card, often laminated, usually given by surgeons reading something to the effect of:

The holder of this card has had a surgical procedure which has permanently reduced their stomach capacity. Therefore… It is greatly appreciated if you would allow them to order from the children’s menu or to purchase half-sized adult entrees. Thank you for your consideration.

1. WLS Restaurant Cards differ from REAL Discount Cards such as AAA, Entertainment Book, etc. in one very important aspect: The REAL discounts are negotiated and agreed to by all parties in advance. The restaurant staff is briefed on how to handle the card. It is PRESUMPTUOUS to create and distribute a card asking/demanding a discount.

2. Restaurants are put into a losing position to start. If they say “no” to the card, which they had no part in creating or marketting, they are already making the customer unhappy. How is this fair even putting them in that position? Were I a restaurant owner, I would resent this card about as much as someone demanding a discount because they are a VIP (Very Important Person).

3. I had surgery. It was my choice to have my stomach modified so that I could only eat 3-5 ounces of food at a sitting. There are many people that have not had surgery that CHOOSE to eat 3-5 ounces of food at a sitting (imagine that!). I do not deserve a discount, or a special menu, any more than they do.

4. “I eat less than most children; I should pay what they pay”. Children’s prices are a marketing tactic to get parents to bring their kids (and themselves) to a restaurant. Children’s menu’s are not because children eat so little. Children’s menus are designed for children’s tastes. Bland and greasy. 

5. Seniors Menus are also a marketing tactic to get seniors to come to the restaurant. If you’re not a senior, you don’t DESERVE a discount because you eat less than a senior. Many restaurants offer a ‘For Smaller Appetites’ Menu, this you may qualify for.

6. I don’t want the hostess, waitress, people behind me or near by, the busboy, or anyone else to know my medical history. It is none of their business, and I should not be making it their business simply to get a discount.

7. Buffets are “All you can eat for…” If all you can eat is 3-5 ounces, the price is the same as when you ate 30-50 ounces or 300-500 ounces. When you could eat 2, 3, or 4 times what the average person could eat, did you ask to pay more? Of course not. To remain morally consistent, you cannot ask to pay less now.

8. “I didn’t choose the buffet, my family did… Why should I pay when I only eat 3-5 ounces.” See #7. Further, you are there to be with your family or friends. Eating out now is even more about the company you keep rather that getting the most food for the least price. Actually, it should always have been about the company.

9. “I didn’t choose the buffet, my family did…” So, before WLS, did you pay less when you wanted Mexican food, but your family outvoted you and you ended up with Chinese? No, you went along to keep peace, to enjoy the company. Whatever your reasons were then, they’re the same now.

10. “I can’t eat all that, I can’t take leftovers home, I don’t want to waste it.” Waste it. Leaving leftovers is not the end of the world. In spite of what your mama said, leaving food on your plate is not a sin, and it will not help starving children in China for you to clean your plate now. You are not obliged to clean your plate. IN FACT, restaurants try to serve enough to satisfy large appetites and they expect people NOT to eat it all. They have trash cans out back for all the left over food.

11. Do you demand a discount at convenience store on a bag of potato chips because you can’t eat the whole bag, and a lot will go to waste? Why not, it’s the SAME THING.

12. Dinner at Chili’s cost $15 before WLS, and you left satisfied. Post-op, the same dinner costs $15 and you leave satisfied. The only difference is you leave food on the plate rather than nose marks. Often, rather than ordering a $15 dinner, you can order $10 appetizer, and you are ahead of the game.

13. "Restaurants should be considerate of WLS Patients." Restaurants should be considerate of EVERYONE. There are many groups of adults that eat less than 'normal', yet they do not expect discounts.

Obviously, or perhaps not so obviously, these arguments presume that people have integrity and that they desire their actions and opinions to be rational, supportable, and consistent. There are those that will do whatever is necessary to get a discount, which these arguments will not dissuade from this course.



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gonersmom
on 12/18/10 6:22 am
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments.  I will soon have my VSG, but I have also run a cafe.  I have seen both sides of this 'losing' situation.   (Pun intended!  :-)  )

There are always 'sides'  on the menu you can order from.  You can always split a meal with someone you are with.  That's what I do now.  I can't think of one person whom I have dined with in the past 6 months who didn't enjoy the concept of sharing both the foods and the costs.  Even if the upper class restaurants charge $1-2 for the extra plate, it's worth it.   

When I've dined alone and asked for just the protein/veggie portion of the meal, I've often had the manager give me a discount without asking.  Maybe it's small town living, maybe it's because I'm a regular, and good tipping customer.

One thing for those who do choose to use the cards.  Please tip appropriately.  In this day's economy, the restaurant business is being hit very hard.  With the average waitstaff making $2.30 per hour plus their portion of the tips, if you only tip 10-15% on the discounted price, it is often less than a $1.  I always tip at least 20% (if the service is good) on the full priced meal. 

Unless you've had to live on your tips, you'd never realize this point.  I have, and it has made me a better tipper. 

       
   

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The_Sheltonator
on 12/22/10 3:14 am
I know its part of the American Culture, and maybe its because I'm English but it really annoys me when you're expected to tip.

(This is off topic sorry).

Wages should not be subsidised by the customer, tips should be given for good service and at the customers discretion it should NOT be expected. Resturant owners should pay their staff appropriately for the work they do and not expect customers to make up for their terrible wages.

In England you generally only tip if the waiter/tress has given fantastic service, and I believe in China its considered very rude.

Plus I hate being made to feel guilty about someone getting paid crap wages. Their employer should feel guilty not me. Bills should include service in the price of the food. Thats why good resturants charge more. Not only are the cuts of meat more expensive the veg better quality the service is also of a higher standard (i.e. more serving staff per head).

I do tip buy the way but not all the time and sometimes I just round up the bill I don't stick to a percentage. I did tip in America but I resented it. I felt like I had to walk down the street handing money out to random people.

On topic. If I want a smaller meal in a resturant I just order a started and ask for it to be served as a main. Everywhere seems happy to do this.

Age: 27, Pre Op

    

USAF Wife
on 12/18/10 6:53 am
I eat out 3-4 times a week be it with my girlfriends, or my husband and son, and I have never felt the need to announce to a complete stranger by flashing a card to say "Hey, I was a fat ass that couldn't control my eating so I had 85% of my stomach removed, NOW discount my meal or give me kiddie/senior citizen prices and portions".
 
My theory has been and always will be  if saving $2-$5 is a necessary evil stay home and make a sandwich, or a protein drink.


Band to VSG revision: June 3, 2009
SW 270lbs GW 150lbs CW Losing Pregancy Weight Maintenance goal W 125-130lbs


raykie2003
on 12/18/10 8:25 am
I second that!!
  
                
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KikiRox85
on 12/17/10 11:10 pm - CA
VSG on 03/24/11 with
My cousin had gastric bypass and carries one. She only uses it when she goes to buffets. There a lifesaver when we go to Vegas, she always get charged as a child.
meleauxdy
on 12/17/10 11:12 pm - Fort Lauderdale, FL
Thanks for sharing the link!  I have not decided if I will use the card or not.  I am 2 months post op and have eaten out many times.  Depending on the restaurant, I will order from the kid's menu (Boston Market, Mall Chinese Restaurants, PeiWei)...otherwise, my husband and I share something.  When I do have to order something just for myself, I eat what I can and take the rest home.  

I don't see anything wrong with the cards.  If I presented a card at a restaurant and they didn't want to honor it, then I probably wouldn't go back to the restaurant.  They can choose to have my money or they can choose not to...it is as simple as that.  

Good company or not, I just can't validate going to a buffet.  My favorite restaurant is a delicious Brazilian steak house but I just can't see going there and paying $50++ per person to eat a fourth of a cup of meat.  Oh well...that's life.

When I go out to eat, I have no problem with taking food home or just sharing with someone.  My coworkers don't know that I've had WLS so I just order something small - soup and salad, small entree...and eat what I can.  I worked with some skinny *****es that picked at their food and hardly ate and no one questioned them.  (I'm not calling them "*****es" because they are skinny...I'm saying "*****es" because that's what they were).  Anyway, if someone questions me I just say that I am "cutting back" or whatever. 

Most children's menus are absolutely vile.  I don't understand how people can let their kids eat corndogs, hotdogs, chicken nuggets and mac n cheese as an actual entree on a regular basis.  When you try to order off the kids menu, you will see just how bad it is.

The other poster, *****plied to you with the "soapbox rant" was a bit much.  If you hate the card then don't use it...it is as simple as that.
Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over it became a butterfly - Proverb
HW - 310 / SW - 295.7 / GW -150


WASaBubbleButt
on 12/18/10 12:09 am - Mexico
Revision on 12/06/06 with
On December 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM Pacific Time, meleauxdy wrote:
Thanks for sharing the link!  I have not decided if I will use the card or not.  I am 2 months post op and have eaten out many times.  Depending on the restaurant, I will order from the kid's menu (Boston Market, Mall Chinese Restaurants, PeiWei)...otherwise, my husband and I share something.  When I do have to order something just for myself, I eat what I can and take the rest home.  

I don't see anything wrong with the cards.  If I presented a card at a restaurant and they didn't want to honor it, then I probably wouldn't go back to the restaurant.  They can choose to have my money or they can choose not to...it is as simple as that.  

Good company or not, I just can't validate going to a buffet.  My favorite restaurant is a delicious Brazilian steak house but I just can't see going there and paying $50++ per person to eat a fourth of a cup of meat.  Oh well...that's life.

When I go out to eat, I have no problem with taking food home or just sharing with someone.  My coworkers don't know that I've had WLS so I just order something small - soup and salad, small entree...and eat what I can.  I worked with some skinny *****es that picked at their food and hardly ate and no one questioned them.  (I'm not calling them "*****es" because they are skinny...I'm saying "*****es" because that's what they were).  Anyway, if someone questions me I just say that I am "cutting back" or whatever. 

Most children's menus are absolutely vile.  I don't understand how people can let their kids eat corndogs, hotdogs, chicken nuggets and mac n cheese as an actual entree on a regular basis.  When you try to order off the kids menu, you will see just how bad it is.

The other poster, *****plied to you with the "soapbox rant" was a bit much.  If you hate the card then don't use it...it is as simple as that.
 
~~The other poster, *****plied to you with the "soapbox rant" was a bit much.  If you hate the card then don't use it...it is as simple as that.~~

I take it 'nose marks' got yer goat, eh?

No problem, I am quite sure that when you ate enough for three at a buffet, you insisted on paying for three and if they declined, you declined to return.

Fair enough.


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
Nita G.
on 12/18/10 8:07 am
 LOL!

48 pounds lost prior to surgery
        
 

    
meleauxdy
on 12/18/10 8:54 am, edited 12/18/10 8:55 am - Fort Lauderdale, FL
You're such a troll.

Just because you strapped on the feedbag everytime you pulled your fat ass up to a buffet doesn't mean that every overweight person has or does. 

Sometimes people are fat because of the quality of the food of they food they are consuming, moreso than the quantity.  No doubt there are definitely obese folks who look at a buffet as an opportunity to gorge, but not all fat people "eat enough for three" simply because they're eating at a buffet.

I love your sweeping generalizations.

Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over it became a butterfly - Proverb
HW - 310 / SW - 295.7 / GW -150


WASaBubbleButt
on 12/18/10 9:02 am - Mexico
Revision on 12/06/06 with
On December 18, 2010 at 8:54 AM Pacific Time, meleauxdy wrote:
You're such a troll.

Just because you strapped on the feedbag everytime you pulled your fat ass up to a buffet doesn't mean that every overweight person has or does. 

Sometimes people are fat because of the quality of the food of they food they are consuming, moreso than the quantity.  No doubt there are definitely obese folks who look at a buffet as an opportunity to gorge, but not all fat people "eat enough for three" simply because they're eating at a buffet.

I love your sweeping generalizations.

 
Honey, most don't get to 310# by eating  40# of broccoli daily.  Let's not be in denial.

Is everyone who disagrees with you a troll?  It would appear so.


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
Lionetta
on 12/18/10 1:59 pm - AZ
I'm like you, I stick to small items like soups and stay away from the kids menu. I ordered a kid's turkey burger at one place because it was grilled, and I just didn't eat the bun or the fries. Making good choices for the bits I can eat out of a meal, and taking a doggy bag home are par for the course these days. I'm not out to stiff anyone. I just don't like wasting food. So sometimes I order spaghetti and meatballs and say "please hold the pasta."

I have no problems, and I always always always make sure to tip the wait person what they would have gotten if I'd ordered a full-sized meal. I'm with others who order full meals and drinks, and usually appetizers, so we're good business.

Hugs!


  
infodiva808
on 12/17/10 11:28 pm
This response is actually for everyone who posted. If you ask, some restaurants are willing to sell a half order of their regular dishes. You can make a healthy choice that way. Or just order an appetizer. Or order a regular portion and ask right away for a to-go container. I have the card I never used it I just ask for a smaller portion or share a dish with a friend.
            
diane S.
on 12/17/10 11:52 pm
VSG on 11/17/09 with
My surgeon gives us such a card but in over a year i think i have only pulled it out once and really didn't need to. Mainly, I order an appetizer as a meal or if i do order a full  meal i just take it home. if i am ordering small like an appetizer or bowl of soup, i tip the waiter more than usual as its not their fault i can only order an inexpensive item. Gotta admit i haven't been to any buffet places as it seems like a waste of money. But I am sure the day will come where thats where the group wants to go. Some Chinese buffet places allow take out based upon weight and perhaps that would be permitted. But now I am thinking about a Las Vegas type buffet and how hard that would be . guess I will keep that card handy.   diane

      
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jimbovsg
on 12/17/10 11:59 pm
VSG on 09/01/09 with
On December 17, 2010 at 10:04 PM Pacific Time, Leanne R. wrote:
I heard about these cards and it would be nice to print some out and carry them to use if needed!

Thought I'd share the link!

http://www.gastric-bypass-guru.com/restaurant-card-bariatric -surgery.html
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WASaBubbleButt
on 12/18/10 12:10 am - Mexico
Revision on 12/06/06 with
On December 17, 2010 at 11:59 PM Pacific Time, jimbovsg wrote:
On December 17, 2010 at 10:04 PM Pacific Time, Leanne R. wrote:
I heard about these cards and it would be nice to print some out and carry them to use if needed!

Thought I'd share the link!

http://www.gastric-bypass-guru.com/restaurant-card-bariatric -surgery.html
Can of worms....can opener......click...twist ...twist... twist........worms crawl out!
 
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The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
frisco
on 12/18/10 12:23 am
VSG on 09/30/09 with

I find when I'm dining out...... I tend to tip a little more (pending service)

It's not the wait persons fault I only order an appetizer and nothing to drink......

frisco


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on 12/18/10 12:57 am - Germantown, MD
VSG on 08/18/10 with
 I tend to tip based on service unless we have a much bigger bill. Anyway, I find the kid's meals in most restaurants to be pretty crap and not WLS friendly. You don't find a lot of grilled things or things that aren't fried. I usually just order an appetizer. Or I ask them to bring a box when they bring my meal if I order a full one, so I can box it up for leftovers. Even if I don't eat it, my husband can take it to work.