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b_scene33
OH
Member Since: 06/22/11
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Post Date: 2/3/12 7:49 pm
Which is important? Why are there two? Is it okay to follow net carbs?????? 

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Tirza T.
VSG (01/17/12)
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Post Date: 2/3/12 7:55 pm
I was told to go by net carbs. But, I do not know what other people were told.
        
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MargeAD
CA
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Post Date: 2/3/12 7:56 pm
My understanding is that net carbs are what you want. How to calculate - carbs - fiber = netcarbs
                
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ruggie
Sacramento, CA
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Post Date: 2/3/12 7:58 pm
It's because of how we label food - it's a bit silly from a biochemical standpoint.

Fiber is technically a carbohydrate, but you don't digest it (so no calories) and it has no effect on your blood sugar levels.  Literally, it goes through you.

Feel free to NOT COUNT fiber in your daily carbohydrate intake.  Keep all other carbs low, but fiber high.
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Willly
Hermosa Beach, CA
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Post Date: 2/3/12 8:17 pm
Exactly.  Net carbs.
    
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hwag5149
(12/12/11)
Member Since: 01/27/12
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Post Date: 2/3/12 9:01 pm
So why is it technically a carb then? Not that I even understand...  I totally trust what you say since you're an effing genius :) 
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ruggie
Sacramento, CA
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Post Date: 2/4/12 9:19 am
Well, fiber is technically a carbohydrate - it's a chain of polymerized (or linked) sugars.  The thing with fiber is that they are carbs our body cannot break down - sugars or not.  You probably know that humans can't digest cellulose from plants, right?  We can't break that down.  It's fiber - it passes through our digestive system.   But pasta is also linked sugars, and we digest that quite fine - that's a complex carb.

Fiber keeps your regular and decreases your odds of having colon cancer.

Because fiber is a carbohydrate, and the way that nutritional law is written in the US, it's displayed under "carbohydrates" on the food label (because it is) but then consumers are left confused when they are wanting to minimize carbs or have a low-carb diet, but also told to keep fiber intake up.


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hwag5149
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Post Date: 2/4/12 9:31 am
No Ruggie, I don't know anything about that stuff. I told you what I went to school for. That stuff is not common sense to me... but I love it when you talk "nerdy scientist" to me :) Now I'm excited that my refried beans have about a third less "real" carbs!
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SleeveRockn Chic
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Post Date: 2/3/12 8:26 pm
That's why fiber is good for poopingYeah I do net carbs.  Only - the fiber from the total to get net.
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edelu
los angeles, CA
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Post Date: 2/3/12 10:33 pm
Last Edit: 2/3/12 10:35 pm
Fiber is fine.  sugar alcohols not so much. I count them.
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b_scene33
OH
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Post Date: 2/4/12 2:51 am
I was told certin sugar alcohols did not cause a spike in glucose and they should not be counted as well, anyone else know if this is true?

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Krazydoglady
FL
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Post Date: 2/4/12 4:03 pm

I typically track both regular and net.  During weightloss, I generally stayed around 30-40 total carbs, 20-30 net.  I do count sugar alcohol.

There are two types of fiber -- soluable and insoluable.  Soluable fiber isn't so much what makes you regular, but it acts like a roto-rootor for cholesterol.  Insoluble fiber helps keep you regular.  Neither is burned by the body for energy. 

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