6 week stall at 5 months out. How many Carbs is everyone getting.

Jme-OH
on 3/23/17 8:24 am

Hi all, I have been stalled for just over 6 weeks. I'm eating between 700-900 calories, but hadn't really been watching my carbs. I get in between 70-100grams of protein and drink 64oz of water. I hadn't really been exercising all that much but have started to do that in the last week and a half. usually elliptical 30-45 mins.

My main question is how many carbs does everyone usually eat? below ois a typical meal for me.

b-greek yogurt

L-chicken and maybe a veggie broccoli or carrots (very few veg tho. maybe 3 bites)

s-yogurt or apple w peanut butter

D-chicken

hw-263

sw-256

cw-199.0

rachelp
on 3/23/17 10:02 am
VSG on 08/01/16

I usually eat 20g or less carbs. Make sure your yogurt isn't full of sugar. I would not eat the apple with peanut butter. Peanut butter is one of those things that aren't super bad but better if avoided until you are in maintenance. I just got out of a stall that lasted 6 weeks so chances are, you will see the scale start moving any day now. Just try to stick to meat and veggies meanwhile and try to get more water in.

Sleeved 8/1/16

HW 285 / SW 276 / GW 160

 

 

(deactivated member)
on 3/23/17 10:43 am
VSG on 01/12/17

Is there like a "magic" number of carbs people who had the surgery should stay around? I have been trying to stay between 40-50 carbs a day and about 600 calories (give or take, obviously). I never was really given any guidelines from my surgeon about carbs, and his example meals often include whole grain rices and pasta which I have been trying to stay away from.

rachelp
on 3/23/17 2:02 pm
VSG on 08/01/16

20g or less carbs.

califsleevin
on 3/29/17 10:18 am - CA

There is no real magic number out there. Way back when, Atkins annointed 40g as "the" number, and people have been applying the "more is better" (if a little of something, like carb restriction, is good, then more of it -more restriction - must be better!) principle ever since. In biology, that rarely works and usually just throws things (more) out of balance. A particular number is useful for those who are diabetic or insulin resistant, and has been even back when "low fat" was the fad of the day. From what I have seen over the years in the bariatric world, those who keep their carbs at 40, 30, 20 g per day don't do any better than those who run at the 60, 80, or 100 g level. The calories that one consumes is a much more important factor, as is the quality of the food.

From a practical perspective, if one is sticking to a typical 6-800 calorie VSG diet, the carbs (and fats) are going to be at such low levels that worrying about them is just a distraction - if one ignores the carb count aims for as good nutrition as one can reasonably get in that non-protein segment of the diet, the level will naturally fall into the 40-50g region without any effort.

Another factor in this is the accounting that some do to "achieve" such low counts. Some of the artificial sweeteners have been found to behave like real sugar from the perspective of raising insulin levels and stimulating cravings and addictive tendencies. So, if one is going to load up one's diet with a lot of these "zero carb carbs", why bother counting them in the first place? It gets back to that principle where the quality of the food is a lot more important than arbitrary macro counts.

1st support group/seminar - 8/03 (has it been that long?)  

Wife's DS - 5/05 w Dr. Robert Rabkin   VSG on 5/9/11 by Dr. John Rabkin

 

Cathy H.
on 3/23/17 10:25 am
VSG on 10/31/16

As all the vets will say, the only way to lose is to eat less calories. You might have to do that for a while. I'm also 5 months out, and I stay between 600-700 cals/day, and was aiming for 30 net carbs/day until recently. I've decided to focus more on a ketogenic diet, and now am limiting myself to 20 net carbs/day. I get 60-70g of protein, and have upped my liquids from 64 to 74 a day...more if I can manage. I got 81 yesterday, that was a first.

And of course, exercise will help. If you don't cut your calories, but you start burning them with exercise you will lose. We all know the math: calories in have to be less than calories out/burned = weight loss.

And another one we can't say enough, are you measuring and tracking every single bite? If not, then you're probably sneaking in extra calories.

Measure, track, burn more calorie, eat less calories, that's the ticket! Good luck!

Livin' La KETO Loca!!
134 lbs lost since surgery, 195 overall!! Initial goal reached 9/15/17, (10.5 months)!
5'3", SW*: 299 GW: 175 HW 3/2015: 360 PSW* 5/2016: 330 *PSW=Prog Start Wt; SW=Surgery Wt

M1 -31, M2 -10, M3 -15, M4 -16, M5 -8, M6 -6, M7 -11, M8 -8, M9 -8, M10 -4, M10.5 -7 GOAL

LifeIsAwesome
on 3/23/17 11:56 am
VSG on 02/15/17

And this is where I get completely confused. I can understand a week or 2 stall, but the calorie in vs. calorie out doesn't compute on a 6 week stall, when eating 600 calories a day. Weight should be falling off unless you weigh 80 lbs. I saw some woman's post that she has to eat 500 calories a day just to maintain, and it goes down every year. So in 5 years I'm only going to be able to eat carrot sticks and 5 bites of protein?

HW-280; SW-235; GW-155; Age-57; Height-5'8"
Stats from SW - M1 -26; M2 -11; M3 -10; M4 -10; M5 -6; M6 -10; M7 - 5;

Jme-OH
on 3/23/17 4:36 pm

I'm totally confused. My NUT wants me to eat 1200 calories a day. At my last app that was a week ago. She told me ton start lowering my protein and I could up my carbs. Which totally contradicts everything I was taught before surgery and what everyone else tells me. I don't know what direction to go. Or who to ask. I know I measure everything I eat, exercise and drink water. I've tried upping calories, lowering calories, messing with can intake. I think it's time to call the surgeon and talk with him.

Cathy H.
on 3/24/17 8:37 am, edited 3/24/17 1:38 am
VSG on 10/31/16

Well, there are a lot of other factors, too.

  • How much you weighed when you started
  • How much weight you have yet to lose
  • What kind of metabolism do you have?
  • How much exercise do you get in?

Frankly, I think my weight loss has slowed down significantly for 2 reasons--I'm probably not getting enough calories per day (had been staying at 600 all this time), and I haven't been exercising like I should. I'm in the process of trying more calories and going to start using an elliptical religiously starting tomorrow.

I wish some of the vets would pitch in here for you, they're the ones with all the tricks lol

Livin' La KETO Loca!!
134 lbs lost since surgery, 195 overall!! Initial goal reached 9/15/17, (10.5 months)!
5'3", SW*: 299 GW: 175 HW 3/2015: 360 PSW* 5/2016: 330 *PSW=Prog Start Wt; SW=Surgery Wt

M1 -31, M2 -10, M3 -15, M4 -16, M5 -8, M6 -6, M7 -11, M8 -8, M9 -8, M10 -4, M10.5 -7 GOAL

catwoman7
on 3/29/17 5:16 pm
RNY on 06/03/15

500 calories to maintain? She's either got some major metabolic problem or she's not weighing/measuring everything she's eating. It takes at least that just to keep your heart beating and brain working!

RNY 06/03/15 by Michael Garren (Madison, WI)

HW: 373 SW: 316 GW: 150 LW: 138 CW: 163

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