Question:
Help! I love my sweets. Is it true that the lap band won't work for me?

I'm torn between the lap band and RNY. I would really prefer the lap but I do of course want to be successful and I don't really know if my weight is because of my love for sweets or food in general. I do over eat but I don't for example take 20 plates at the buffet table. I see my PCP tomorrow and I don't know exactly what to ask for. Any input would be helpful. Thanks!    — April R. (posted on June 30, 2003)


June 30, 2003
Hi. I was in your boat. It was the sweets that were really hitting me in the fat area. I had the lap rny and have lost 220 lbs in 18 months. It was worth it, trust me. I can eat some sweets now, but have to really watch it. If you want to lose weight, you HAVE to give up those sweets! I have many recipes to replace my sweets... see my profile for help!
   — Sharon M. B.

June 30, 2003
That's a really tough question to answer! Whether you have RNY or Lap-band you have to severly curtail your sweet eating and the RNY does not guarantee that you'll automatically give it up because not everyone dumps. My surgeon estimated to me, that only about 1/2 of his RNY patients experienced dumping from fat or sugar! I dumped severly on fats, but sugar really didn't bother me much for a long time. Now it does - go figure - and I'm 11 months out. <sigh>. If your banking on the RNY to kill your craving for sugar, I think you may end up disappointed. Will power does come into play either way. What are the reasons that you prefer the lap-band? I agree it's less invasive and you don't have to worry about malabsorption, and those are good things. However, I banked on the malabsorptive properties to help me to lose weight, not just the small size of my pouch. Guess that's why I went with someone messing with my intestines - though I had also HOPED for dumping :>(
   — [Deactivated Member]

June 30, 2003
I went to a WLS seminar a few months ago. The surgeon did RNY (both open & Lap), Lap Band ... he stressed that if you were a sweet eater he did not recommend the Lap Band procedure.
   — [Deactivated Member]

June 30, 2003
I was in the same position as you so I understand your dilemma. My doctor is a very strong advocate of the LAP-band and we discussed it a great deal. He feels that in the long run the LAP-band will prove to be much more successful than early US studies have shown, but one of the major keys is choosing the patient wisely. The LAP-band is not a good surgery for those whose primary problem is sweets and liquid calories. While it is true that not all people "dump" with the RNY, there is the added factor of malabsorption. Good luck with your decision. I ended up opting for the RNY primarily because I was afraid the LAP-band wouldn't work, but I still wonder if I made the right choice.
   — [Deactivated Member]

June 30, 2003
That's the reason I had RNY, I LOVE sweets and am not a big portion eater. If I didn't have the dumping like I do now, I wouldn't be as successful as I am. I'm afraid to take in too much sugar which is great for my weight loss.
   — ZZ S.

June 30, 2003
Yes the Lap Band does work for some people. When I was researching WLS, I wanted the Lap Band not RNY. But after talking to my surgeon, I ditched that idea. Why? Because I could eat a bag of candy and not blink an eye. Cookies for breakfast. I drank sodas like there was no tomorrow. Ect... The band would not stop me from doing that. It works mainly for people who are VOLUME eaters but doesnt help in the sweets area. (Thank goodness I dump on anything over 10g of sugar now.) Do your research and be HONEST with yourself as to how you got where you are now. I wish you all the luck in the world no matter which one you go for. ~Sidney~ Open RNY 10-23-02 down 100+ 23 until goal
   — Siddy I.

July 1, 2003
I would have preferred something less invasive than the RNY (I looked into the lap band) but I know it would not have worked for me. Without the dumping, I would still eat sweets, because I push the limits even knowing I'll be sick. I would have eaten around the surgery because I'm a carb addict and I need all the help I can get.
   — mom2jtx3

July 1, 2003
There is strong evidence that a person's sweet eating habits have NO effect on their ability to sucessfully lose weight with the lap band. Here's the text from 1 Australian study which references 2 other studies (located here http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12568183&dopt=Abstract) <BR>Sweet eating is not a predictor of outcome after Lap-Band placement. Can we finally bury the myth? Hudson SM, Dixon JB, O'Brien PE. Monash University Department of Surgery, Alfred Hospital, Melbourne, Victoria 3181, Australia. BACKGROUND: It is common belief that sweet eaters will do poorly after gastric restrictive surgery. There is scant evidence for this and significant evidence that sweet eating behavior is not predictive of weight outcome. Preoperative and current sweet eating behavior was assessed in subjects who have had Lap-Band surgery, to find if this influenced weight outcomes. METHOD: 200 unselected patients who had bands inserted for > 1 year completed a questionaire regarding preoperative sweet eating behavior. The last 100 patients also reported current sweet eating behavior. Sweet eating was scored using a standard dietary questionnaire. RESULTS: Mean +/- SD % excess weight loss at 1 year (% EWL1) for the 100 with the highest preoperative sweet eating scores (SES) was 47.1 +/- 16% compared with a loss of 48.2 +/- 16% by those with the lowest SES (P = 0.64). Analysis showed no significant linear or non-linear correlation between the SES and the % EWL. For the highest quintile of SES, the EWL1 was 47.3 +/- 14% and for the lowest was 46.1 +/- 16% (NS). Sweet eaters were younger (r = -0.21, P = 0.003) and had higher fasting insulin concentrations (r = -0.18, P = 0.03). Preoperative SES had no influence on % EWL1 after controlling for factors known to influence weight loss. % EWL at 2 years (n = 130) and 3 years (n = 88) were not different for sweet eaters and non-sweet eaters. Current sweet eating tendency (n = 100) also had no impact on % EWL. CONCLUSION: Sweet eaters do not have less favorable weight outcomes following Lap-Band surgery. <B>Our study confirms the findings of two other major studies. Sweet eating behavior should not be used as a preoperative selection criterion for bariatric surgery.</B>
   — TMF

July 1, 2003
I just wanted to add something else. There is no guarantee that you will dump after RnY, nor what you may or may not dump on, nor what amount of which food will make you dump.<BR> I have never known a milkshake addict in my life, whether before or after banding, and I after reading literally thousands of message boards over the past several months, I have yet to see a single banded person who was unsuccessful because they liked sweets. The majority of banded people I talk to report drastic changes in their eating habits after they are banded. The reduction in appetite has a lot to do with it and speaking from personal experience, I can tell you that I am drawn toward healthier foods now. With that said, I had about 1/3 of a piece of cheesecake this weekend. I didn't dump. I didn't sit down and eat the whole cheesecake. I didn't have dreams of eating an entire cheesecake. I didn't want cheesecake for breakfast the next day. I didn't damage my weight loss in any way. <BR> ~TF
   — TMF

July 3, 2003
I was a TOTAL sweet-eater. I could polish off half of a package of double-stuffed Oreos, or eat a whole can of frosting in one sitting! I did this very often! After being banded, I no longer have those desires. Yes, I have eaten a couple of small bitsize candy bar (during THAT time of the month) and I have had several bites of cake on occasion, but I was totally satisfied with that. I never feel deprived. For some reason, I just don't crave the sweets like I use too. I have heard that this is common with bandsters.<p> For me, I ended up doing my own research because I found that many doctors are unaware of the success of the band. Many base their opinions on the pathetic FDA studies. They aren't reading (or are turning a blind eye) on the newer studies and of the HUGE success outside the US. Do your own research and decide for yourself. For other websites, check out: <p> http://www.spotlighthealth.com/common/SG/topics.asp?m=1&sb=25 <p> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bandsters/<p> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SmartBandsters/<p> Good luck!! Sheryl
   — Sheryl W.

July 7, 2003
The chart on this site http://gr-ds.com/forpatients/comparison.html compares the results of 4 types of surgery. Pre-op I was a huge volume binge eater of sweets. I'd eat a half gallon of ice cream and a box of cookies almost every night! God it still makes me cringe to say that. 13 months ago I had DS, which has no dumping, and what I've found is that my tastes changed radically. For a long time sweets tasted disgusting to me. When I could tolerate them I'd have a piece or two of candy or a little ice cream. There's been a few times when I've had relatively minor sweets binges, but the aftereffects--horrible gas and BMs--have kept that to a minimum. I also find that if I don't eat enough protein I feel lousy, so that helps too. I can only eat so much, so the good stuff gets top priority; a small amount of sweets cause no problem. Hope this helps! Chris
   — Chris T.




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