Question:
NO pre- authorization needed, EVER HEAR OF THAT???

I see lots of questions about insurance but my doctor does not take my Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO so I pay up front but the doctor's assistant said the company usually covers most of it. And she said the hospital is in my plan. I doubted this so she gave me the code for surgery and the codes for the co-morbids. I called the insurance company and gave the rep my id #s plus all the codes. Then the rep came back on the line and said it is a covered benefit if medically required because of a BMI of 40 (MO) and a co-morbid. She said that is an approved hospital so I don't have to have a pre approval to go to that hospital. I did not want to talk them out of it and start an arguement so I said thank you. AM I MISSING SOMETHING???    — Grace M. (posted on April 15, 2002)


April 15, 2002
Yes, Medica has gone to a "no review" policy. I think some insurances are catching on finally. I would however make sure you have everything in writing before having surgery. Best of Luck!
   — ZZ S.

April 15, 2002
I have federal BC/BS. I used a PPO hospital and it cost me a $100 fee. My surgeon was PPO so my share was only $285, his assistant wasn't so I paid 1/4th. My surgeon tried to get BC/BS to preauthorize but they said they don't. They would pay if it's medically necessary. I was worried but they paid. My BMI was only 42 with no comorbidities.
   — Michelle F.

April 15, 2002
What state do you live in and where do I apply for that insurance? I've never heard of that but it sounds to good to be true. And you know what that means; It just might be. There are things you'll want to take a look at. My ins. company (Ochsner- Louisiana) has something called a pre exsisting claus. Most companies have the same thing. What this means is if you have not had your coverage for a full year but have had that condition before you got that ins. then they will not cover it till you make a full year of coverage. So if you have had your ins. for a year then that's fine. But here is where they like to get you. If you have not been covered for a year they may still cover the surgery, (no questions asked) and then refuse to pay for it after you've had it. That makes things a little complicated. To me it sounds like this may happen because they can come back and refuse to pay saying that you did not have approval before hand. I'm not saying that this will happen but it's something to be careful of. Look through your booklet and make sure there are no loop holes. Get the name of the person you spoke to on the phone and if you can, tape the conversation (tell them you are taping the conversation because this is illegal unless they know you are taping them). Make sure to protect yourself. You don't want to put your family's well being on the line before you are ready to take on a $20,000 debt. Best of luck to you and I hope that you really do have such a great ins company.
   — Sarah K.

April 15, 2002
Sounds like me- I have BCBS PPO and my Dr and hospital were prefered providers. I was told that it was covered, but that they couldn't tell me to what dollar amount- so I had to just hope it was going to be ok. Well, then I thought about it. IF it is a PPO hospital- that means the insurance and hospital have an agreement on what is reasonable and customary and the patient shouldn't have to pay anything. For my policy, if I go to a non PPO, then I will be responsible for 10% of his fees and BCBS picks up the rest. For your own sake- I would call back and ask again and get the reps name AND get it in writing. Because people do make mistakes, and if she did, you could pay.
   — M B.

April 15, 2002
I also have BC/BS ppo,and my insurance covers 100% if it is considered a medical necessity.Even though my insurance covered this type of surgery, I still had to be pre-approved to see if I fell in the category of it being a medical necessity.I was approved in 3 1/2 weeks,but my surgery was scheduled 3 months later.{the Doctor is really booked up} I hope this helps. Lora B
   — Lora B.

April 15, 2002
I have BCBS of AL, PPO, and I needed no referral for either for my surgeon or the hospital he uses, but of course, my WLS did have to go through the approval process. I think that with most PPO's you don't need prior authorization to see another doc, a specialist, etc. Not sure if I answered your question, bur I tried! 8-) Donna in AL
   — Donna S. C.

April 16, 2002
I have BC/BS PPO of GA. I have a 80/20 plan where my out of pocket maximum is no more than $2,000.00 with a $500.00 deductible. I am still waiting for approval wich was submitted on April 5th. They said it takes up to 14 days for a decision. They told me that for this type of procedure you have to get "prior approval" which is different than "pre-certification" even though they sound the same to me. Both my surgeon and the hospital are in-network. My policy does have an exclusion for treatments of obesity but everyone I have talked to say that as long as it doesn't exclude "morbid obesity" then I should have a chance, especially if its medically necessary.
   — mikawill

April 16, 2002
Well this "no preathorization needed" doesn't mean that they will cover your surgery. BC/BS sometimes takes this approach, and then after you have the surgery they will deny the claim as not being medically necessary. I almost got caught in this situation. You, and most doctors, will still want a pre-determination, which is different from pre-authorization. Pre-determination means that yes they will cover it. I would definately talk to both your Dr's insurance people and your insurance co. to get in writing that you will be covered, or you could end up with a big bill.
   — Dell H.

April 11, 2003
I have BC/BS Community Blue PPO of Michigan. I just got off the phone with one of the lady's at the surgeon's office and she re-affirmed that I do not have to worry about getting an approval. She said that with my comorbs. my bmi and everything else that this is medically necessary and they will cover it. She is going to call my insurance co next week though and talk to someone that deals with in patient and discuss it before I actually go in for pre-op tests. But basically she told me not to worry about anything and that everything is going to go ahead as planned! God I hope she's right!
   — Sarah G.




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