This definately isn't easy!
Ok...so far everything has been going well...I am keeping food down and feeling better and better each day.
The mindset around your eating definately doesn't change...for those who know me face to face I am a very positive person around this and have fairly good self esteem. I am a go getter and I am driven to succeed....At least thats what part of my mind is saying...the other part of my mind is saying...it's ok to eat this, there's no harm, you aren't having any bad reactions, this food isn't bad for you.... everything is a mind game these days.
I have self identified some of my challenges:
1) I am on the puree stage and I am not pureeing everything...I am able to eat chicken, beef, pork...I don't puree them...I just chew them really well. I almost feel like I have skipped over the whole puree stage
2) I am not getting in all my protein....I wouldn't say I am doing horrible but I'm not doing as good as I could... The last couple days I have made sure to have atleast 1 protein shake
3) I'm not walking enough.....I mean going out for walks....I am not sitting around as much as I was pre-op but I'm not going out specifically for the point of getting exercise...yesterday I went to the gym...yes I am only 3 weeks post op but I went and walked on the treadmill for 30 mins...I have a cold right now so I have been avoiding walking outside much cuz it just makes me cough
4) I am not getting as much liquids in as I should....supposedly we should get in about 2L/ day and I would say I am getting in 1
5) I take my vitamins (most the time) but I'm not great at keeping a schedule with them
6) I don't right down what i'm eating
I have been feeling kinda down on myself for the last few days thinking why am I screwing around with such an amazing opportunity? i have thought about putting up tyhis post but just kept avoiding it...but I think it is so important to talk about how you are feeling, ask questions, get answers.
One of the things I am wondering is....would I know I am full? There have been times where I ate more then a quarter cup of food at 1 time and I didn't feel any different then if I ate the right amount...My thought was if i overate it would feel very heavy in my chest, I may throw up, etc...but I feel nothing! I know that alot of nerve endings and stuff were cut so I may not get some sore pouch feeling but wouldn't I atleast have some physical feeling?
I have not been experimenting with things that are bad for me like sweets and breads and things like that....I have been only eating foods that I am allowed upto this stage
Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly appreciated....for the newbies....make sureyou do all your research...if you are going into this thinking it will be easy then you haven't done enough research, if you think that all your struggles will magically disappear they wont...
My surgery was sept 26- I am down 41.2 lbs (4lbs pre optifast, 23lbs on optifast, 14.2 post op)
physical changes. As you've identified, the surgery didn't alter your
mind or relationship with food. That's all just plain hard work. It
also sounds like you know exactly what you need to work on, you
numbered them! Good for you! Life isn't about being perfect. That's
where most of us failed in the first place. It's about finding balance
and getting food in perspective.
I would only urge you to first take care of yourself. That means working
on the protein all the time and getting those vitamins down. You
can get really ill and feel pretty awful without both of those. You didn't
go through this to get sick or have permanent physical damage from
vitamin deficiencies. Take care of that business and make it a priority.
Lastly, relax! Your body hasn't really healed and gotten into its groove yet.
It's still trying to adjust to the physical changes. You know what you should
be doing, so relax, work on that and listen to your body. Your pouch will
let you know when it's happy and when it's not. Everybody is different and
just like before surgery, some days you may be hungrier and eat more, and
some days not. My "full" signal is hiccuping. I only feel uncomfortable when
I eat things that make my pouch grouchy- pasta, bread, potatoes. That doesn't
mean that will be your full signal, nor does it mean I can just eat until I
get uncomfortable. You will find that you can't eat some things now, but
you may be able to eat them a few months from now. The point is, relax and
get to know how your pouch feels and what your body is telling you. Your
hunger signals may be completely different from pre surgery, your full
signals may be different, and your body's needs may be different from
mine or anybody else's. Enjoy the journey and keep up the good work.
2) I am not getting in all my protein....I wouldn't say I am doing horrible but I'm not doing as good as I could... The last couple days I have made sure to have atleast 1 protein shake-- I struggled with the protein as well. Sometimes I still do and I am almost 15 months out. Just do the best you can as often as you can, but remember, Rome wasn't built in a day. It takes time to adjust, it takes time to get comfortable, so don't sweat the small stuff and just keep going. There are a lot of sites that you can also visit for ideas on how to mix thing up and recipes, and it could help you get in more protein. Pouch Party is one of my favorites because you can find recipes by stages, etc.
3) I'm not walking enough.....I mean going out for walks....I am not sitting around as much as I was pre-op but I'm not going out specifically for the point of getting exercise...yesterday I went to the gym...yes I am only 3 weeks post op but I went and walked on the treadmill for 30 mins...I have a cold right now so I have been avoiding walking outside much cuz it just makes me cough-- Here is my thing with excersize, yes creating the habit is important as a total lifestyle change, but there are plently of WLS patients who can't or simply won't excersize and that has not made them any less successful. My own experience also showed me that while it helps, it is not imperative. I have been in an out of hospitals with surgeries the last few years, so excersizing has not always been possible. Now my last surgery was back in March and since then, I have A- lost of the weight I wanted to lose and B- Gotten much better- so I decided to start working out and wow what a change- suddenly I like it a lot, and I think mostly it is because it is not so hard anymore. So I would encourage you to keep trying to find an activity that not only gets you moving, but that you also find entertaining, but when you don't- again don't beat yourself on it, just keep trying and do it when you can, when you feel good.
4) I am not getting as much liquids in as I should....supposedly we should get in about 2L/ day and I would say I am getting in 1-- This was another one of my struggles. I find it much easier to get all my liquids and then some now that my puch can hold more ounces at once and now that I can drink a lot more in one gulp. This is a work uin progress, just keep challenging yourself and it will get better.
5) I take my vitamins (most the time) but I'm not great at keeping a schedule with them-- Vitamins are really important. I would suggest finding something to make it work for you. I have heard of people setting up alarms, I even know someone who's husband reminds them to take their vitamins. I use an online food tracket (Sparkpeople, but there are other alternatives) that is not only free but it allows me to track all my food, supplements, liquids, excersize, and any other self impossed goals. I find that having to track and being able to see how I am doing helps me keep me focus and on track and has helped tremendously on my vitamin schedule as well as on my protein goals.
6) I don't right down what i'm eating-- Please see above. I think tracking the food is important because it helps you with A- Knowing what you are eating and how those nutrients break down B- Helps you set goals and track them, no matter if they are nutritional, fitness, motivational, or lifestyle, C- it gives youn a quick visual of what you are doing right and what you could improve on and D- I feel it keeps you accountable. We didn't just wake up one day and had this surgery, this was a long hard road and at times a very painful process so making it work should be our top priority, it is afterall our decission to live a better, healthier life that put us here in the first place.
Last but not least, I think you are doing great, and writing a post about how you are doing is a great thing because I am sure it forces you to be accountable for the good, the bad, and the downright uggly. Keep your head up and keep going, you will see that you can make lots of things happen if you set your mind to it!!
on 10/18/11 7:13 am
We need them post op. You won't get all your protein in for quite a while. It takes time to work up to where we can take in enough to meet our daily protein needs. Again, follow your docs orders and eat/drink what you're told to. Post op is a time to relearn new eating habits, get rid of the old habits that made us fat in the first place. Find a good support group in your area and find a buddy if you can to compare notes with. Make sure you eat what's allowed for your stage and drink lots of water. Exercise is important too. What we were given is a gift. It's up to us to use it wisely.
Jen 10 yrs post op
I found that after about 3 weeks I did start feeling things again, including hunger (a little) and fullness. (Thank goodness the hunger monster doesn't growl nearly as loud as pre-surgery but I know it's there.) At four weeks through two months (now) I can almost eat 3 oz meatloaf and 1/4 cup of vegetables and sometimes feel full just before finishing and sometimes just after. That seems like a lot when I compare how much I can eat at 2 months to what other people report.
Also -- my head hunger was ferocious at two to three weeks. Everything smelled so good, I wanted to and felt capable of eating a lot of food, even when I was just days or weeks out from surgery. However, it seems like the head hunger has decreased a bit in the last month. I had a bite of cupcake and you know what, it wasn't all that great. And I had a bite of the tortilla wrap and you know what, it wasn't all that great. Now even though things smell really good I know that they probably won't taste all that great, especially if its unhealthy.
Surprisingly, things that don't smell that good -- like when I cook mixed veggies (broccoli / cauliflower / carrots) -- they taste fantastic. Who knew?? LOL.
Good luck to you and keep us up to date on your progress!
I have also had conflicting things told to me and sometimes my head spins wondering what the heck to do. My nut says to eat until i feel the fullness in my chest. I swear to you last night i ate about 3 oz of chix and a few roasted carrots and i never really felt that fullness in my chest. I don't want to just sit and eat and eat. Others say oh you should not be eating that much..others say there were eating more at this stage. So you ahve to just try to do what you think is best. I have been starting to get more hungry towards evening so i decided to do my protein shake at night. Nice treat anyways. I have decided also that a1/4 cup of food is probably not enough for me at this point. My hard work isn't because i am never hungry and am sick all the time, my hard work is because no foods have bothered me and i AM hungry sometimes. So i have to really listen to my body.
Ramie...i am almost exactly like you. I too think i can eat more than others have said. And i do also crave things and then when i try them....wow what the heck did i spend so much time craving them for? lol I have lost about 50 lbs but this week my weight has surprisingly been up some. TOM and thats about it i suppose. Been on a little slump and i think its because i am not allowing myself to eat more. I don't spend a lot of time snacking really so i might just be in starvation mode. I might just be a slow loser from this point on too..who knows.
But with your issues Jenn, don't think your alone cause obviously there are a few of us that are the same. Its not easy to be sick and never hungry and its not easy to be fine and always hungry. lol
I take most of my vits in the am. including any scripts. I take the first multi, the b50, the b12, the calcium citrate and the vit D. To the best of my knowlege it's ok to take them together. Around lunch I take my next load of calcium and the multi. around dinner I take the third round of calcium I just coincide them with meal times. Then, before bed I take the iron chewable.
Because I get most of them (that I can) out of the way in the am, the rest of the day doesn't seem so bad. I also put them into a 7 day pill box which helps a lot. I pack the box on sunday. Takes about 3 mins.
I think you are doing fine. Just work on the fluids, protein and vits
You know what people say, they operate on your stomach, not your head. And the head stuff, I think, is the hardest to change. And it's the most important. If we don't fix our heads, I think a lot of us would not be successful with WLS.
Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.
As far as feeling full, I didn't for a long time and now its only when I overeat do I feel it. My body gave me a few new tells for when im full. I sneeze, yawn and my nose runs,not all at the same time. Its mostly I just sneeze when I'm full.
Hope it all works out for you. Just remember " We may stumble and fall, but thats ok as long as we pick ourselves back up and continue on"