NEED SOME ANSWERS TO SOMETHING I READ IN OH MAGAZINE

shoegirl1023
on 1/22/12 6:57 am - Solon, OH
For those of you who get the OH magazine I have a question and a concern about something I read. It's on page 40 and there is an article written by a Dr Miachel Bilof where he says that dairy should not be our main source of protein. I am happy to say that I am just over 6 years PO and been very successful. I haven't touched cakes, cookies, ice cream, chocolate (which was my main source of addiction), french fries, potatoes or basically anything that got me into trouble and led me to the path of WLS. I take all my daily required vitamins and drink all my daily required liquids and exercise.

I live on protein plus veggies.  I am a vegetarian (not vegan) and my main source of protein is non fat cheese, nuts (healthy ones) and fish. The dr writes we shouldn't eat too much cheese or nuts or even too much milk even if it's non fat. Even though I have been doing great over the last 6 years this is somewhat confusing to me and especially being a vegetarian, my choices are pretty limited. I do eat the same things every day and have my routine which I feel comfortable with.

I would appreciate any feedback on this please to let me know your thoughts.  I am not going to change what I eat but again, would love to hear what you have to say on this subject.

Thanks

JOANNE 
OH Support Group Leader
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M M
on 1/22/12 7:39 am, edited 1/22/12 7:42 am
Do you use beans and soy?  Quinoa and other grains?

Dairy, full-fat cheese, is very high in saturated fat, as are nuts.  And while healthy, no one should really use them as their mainstays.  

Dairy is high in carbohydrates, even skim has 13 grams per 8 ounce serving.

Beans, Nuts, Seeds

1 cup garbanzo beans 14.5 grams
1 cup pinto beans 12 grams
1 cup refried beans 15.5 grams
1 cup soybeans 28 grams
1 oz. cashews 4.4 grams
1 oz. peanuts 6.5 grams
1 oz. sesame seeds 6.5 grams
1 oz. pistachios 5.8 grams
1 cup tofu 22 grams
1 cup lentils 18 grams

Dairy

1 cup yogurt 13 grams
1 oz cheddar cheese 7.1 grams
egg 6 grams
1 cup cottage cheese 10 grams

Fruits and Vegetables

1 avocado 10 grams
1 cup broccoli 5 grams
1 cup spinach 5 grams
1 cup peas 9 grams
1 medium artichoke 4 grams
1 cup asparagus 5 grams
1 cup beet greens 3 grams

Read more: http://www.care2.com/greenliving/vegetarian-protein-sources.html#ixzz1kEX8t84Y

 Description  Weight 
(g)
 Measure Content per
Measure
(g)
Alfalfa seeds, sprouted, raw 33 1 cup 1.32
Artichokes, (globe or French), cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 120 1 medium 4.18
Asparagus, canned, drained solids 72 4 spears 1.54
Asparagus, cooked, boiled, drained 60 4 spears 1.55
Asparagus, frozen, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 180 1 cup 5.31
Avocados, raw, California 28.35 1 oz 0.60
Avocados, raw, Florida 28.35 1 oz 0.45
Beans, baked, canned, plain or vegetarian 254 1 cup 12.17
Beans, baked, canned, with pork and tomato sauce 253 1 cup 13.05
Beans, black, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 172 1 cup 15.24
Beans, Cowpeas (Blackeyed), immature seeds,  boiled, without salt 165 1 cup 5.23
Beans, Cowpeas (blackeyed), immature seeds, frozen, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 170  1 cup  14.43 
Beans, Cowpeas, common (blackeyes, crowder, southern), mature seeds, 172 1 cup 13.30
Beans, Kidney beans, red, mature seeds, canned 256 1 cup 13.44
Beans, Kidney beans, red, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 177 1 cup 15.35
Beans, Lima beans, large, mature seeds, canned 241 1 cup 11.88
Beans, Lima beans, large, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 188 1 cup 14.66
Beans, Mung beans, mature seeds, sprouted, cooked, boiled,  without salt 124 1 cup 2.52
Beans, Mung beans, mature seeds, sprouted, raw 104 1 cup 3.16
Beans, Navy beans, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 182 1 cup 15.83
Beans, Pinto beans, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 171 1 cup 14.04
Soybeans, mature cooked, boiled, without salt 180 1 cup 22.23
Beans, Snap beans, green, canned, regular pack, drained solids 135 1 cup 1.55
Beans, Snap beans, green, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 125 1 cup 2.36
Beans, White beans, mature seeds, canned 262 1 cup 19.02
Beet greens, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 144 1 cup 3.70
Beets, canned, drained solids 170 1 cup 1.55
Broccoli, raw 88 1 cup 2.62
Broccoli, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 156 1 cup 4.65
Beets, cooked, boiled, drained 170 1 cup 2.86
Beets, cooked, boiled, drained 50 1 beet 0.84
Cabbage, Chinese (pak-choi), cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 170 1 cup 2.65
Cabbage, Chinese (pe-tsai), cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 119 1 cup 1.79
Cabbage, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 150 1 cup 1.53
Cabbage, raw 70 1 cup 1.01
Cabbage, red, raw 70 1 cup 0.97
Carrots, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 156 1 cup 1.70
Carrots, frozen, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 146 1 cup 1.74
Carrots, raw 110 1 cup 1.13
Cauliflower, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 124 1 cup 2.28
Cauliflower, frozen, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 180 1 cup 2.90
Cauliflower, raw 100 1 cup 1.98
Celery, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 150 1 cup 1.25
Celery, raw 120 1 cup 0.90
Corn, sweet, white, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 77 1 ear 2.56
Corn, sweet, yellow, canned, vacuum pack, regular pack 210 1 cup 5.06
Corn, sweet, yellow, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 77 1 ear 2.56
Corn, sweet, yellow, frozen, kernels cut off cob, boiled, drained, without salt 164 1 cup 4.51
Corn, sweet, yellow, frozen, kernels on cob, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 63  1 ear  1.96 
Cucumber, peeled, raw 119 1 cup 0.68
Cucumber, with peel, raw 104 1 cup 0.72
Dandelion greens, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 105 1 cup 2.10
Endive, raw 50 1 cup 0.63
Garlic, raw 3 1 clove 0.19
Lentils, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 198 1 cup 17.86
Lettuce, cos or romaine, raw 56 1 cup 0.91
Lettuce, iceberg (includes crisphead types), raw 55 1 cup 0.56
Lettuce, looseleaf, raw 56 1 cup 0.73
Mushrooms, canned, drained solids 156 1 cup 2.92
Mushrooms, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 156 1 cup 3.39
Mushrooms, raw 70 1 cup 2.03
Mustard greens, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 140 1 cup 3.16
Okra, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 160 1 cup 2.99
Okra, frozen, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 184 1 cup 3.83
Olives, ripe, canned (small-extra large) 22 5 large 0.18
Onions, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 210 1 cup 2.86
Onions, dehydrated flakes 5 1 tbsp 0.45
Onions, raw 110 1 whole 1.28
Onions, spring or scallions (includes tops and bulb), raw 100 1 cup 1.83
Parsley, raw 10 10 sprigs 0.30
Parsnips, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 156 1 cup 2.06
Peas, edible-podded, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 160 1 cup 5.23
Peas, edible-podded, frozen, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 160 1 cup 5.60
Peas, green, canned, regular pack, drained solids 170 1 cup 7.51
Peppers, hot chili, green, raw 45 1 pepper 0.90
Peppers, hot chili, red, raw 45 1 pepper 0.90
Peppers, sweet, green, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 136 1 cup 1.25
Peppers, sweet, green, raw 119 1 pepper 1.06
Peppers, sweet, red, raw 119 1 pepper 1.06
Potato, baked, flesh and skin, without salt 202 1 potato 5.05
Potatoes, baked, flesh, without salt 156 1 potato 3.06
Potatoes, boiled, cooked in skin, flesh, without salt 136 1 potato 2.54
Potatoes, boiled, cooked without skin, flesh, without salt 135 1 potato 2.31
Potatoes, hashed brown, home-prepared 156 1 cup 3.78
Pumpkin, canned, without salt 245 1 cup 2.70
Pumpkin, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 245 1 cup 1.76
Radishes, raw 4.5 1 radish 0.03
Spinach, canned, drained solids 214 1 cup 6.01
Spinach, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 180 1 cup 5.35
Spinach, frozen, chopped or leaf, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 190 1 cup 5.97
Spinach, raw 30 1 cup 0.86
Squash, summer, all varieties, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 180 1 cup 1.64
Squash, summer, all varieties, raw 113 1 cup 1.33
Squash, winter, all varieties, cooked, baked, without salt 205 1 cup 1.82
Squash, winter, butternut, frozen, cooked, boiled, without salt 240 1 cup 2.95
Sweet potato, canned, vacuum pack 255 1 cup 4.21
Sweet potato, cooked, baked in skin, without salt 146 1 potato 2.51
Sweet potato, cooked, boiled, without skin, without salt 156 1 potato 2.57
Tomatoes, red, ripe, canned, stewed 255 1 cup 2.42
Tomatoes, red, ripe, canned, whole, regular pack 240 1 cup 2.21
Tomatoes, red, ripe, raw, year round average 180 1 cup 1.53
Tomatoes, sun-dried 2 1 piece 0.28
Tomatoes, sun-dried, packed in oil, drained 3 1 piece 0.15
Watermelon, raw 286 1 wedge 1.77

Protein content of other High Protein Vegetarian Food

 Description  Weight 
(g)
 Measure Content per
Measure
(g)
Buckwheat flour, whole-groat 120 1 cup 15.14
Buckwheat groats, roasted, cooked 168 1 cup 5.68
Bulgur, cooked 182 1 cup 5.61
Bulgur, dry 138 1 cup 11.70
Cornmeal, degermed, enriched, yellow 140 1 cup 17.21
Cornmeal, whole-grain, yellow 122 1 cup 9.91
Noodles, chinese, chow mein 45 1 cup 3.77
Oat bran, cooked 219 1 cup 7.03
Oat bran, raw 94 1 cup 16.26
Peanut butter, smooth style, with salt 16 1 tbsp 4.03
Quinoa, cooked - 1 cup 11
Rice, brown, long-grain, cooked 125 195 5.03
Rice, white, long-grain, regular, cooked 158 195 4.25
Spaghetti, cooked, enriched, without added salt 140 1 cup 6.68
Spaghetti, whole-wheat, cooked 140 1 cup 7.46
Tempeh 225 1 cup 31
Tofu, firm, prepared with calcium sulfate and magnesium chloride 81 1/4 block 6.51
Wheat flour, white, all-purpose, enriched, bleached 125 1 cup 12.91
Wheat flour, whole-grain 125 1 cup 16.44
Wheat flour, white, bread, enriched 125 137 16.41
Whole wheat bread 2 slices 2 slices 5
Veggie burger 1 patty 1 patty 5-24

Source: USDA Nutrient Database for Standard Reference, Release 15
www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR15/sr15.html


shoegirl1023
on 1/22/12 8:14 am - Solon, OH
I don't eat too many beans as I'm not a lover of them plus they really make me feel too bloated, I do love quinoa and eat that as well at tofu occassionally. But I do eat pretty much the same thing every day and I have been doing great that way and very much on track with everything.  I eat only fat free cheese other than if I am out for lunch and also the nuts. I need the crunch sometimes. And in addition to my vitamins/calcium I take every day, I need to get in my milk as I'm not a lover of yogurt so I have 2 cups of that a day.  I know I'm not doing anything wrong as I am totally on track with my program and help others who are not.  I never cheat though and feel very proud at how far I have come over the last 6 years. I see so many people take advantage of this surgery and think it's a "quick fix" and totally blow it after a couple years or so. Fear keeps me from every going back.

Thanks for the list you sent me, I appreciate it.

JOANNE 
OH Support Group Leader
My local support group meets the 2nd Tuesday of each month - please message me for further information

We are on a continuous journey without a destination




walterswife
on 1/22/12 10:49 am

I read the same article yesterday and had the same questions that you raise here.  I was especially concerned since greek yogurt and  nonfat cottage cheese are staples for me.

With all of the reading Ihave done, that was a first for me.  I questioned it more when I read the very next article by Christine Gerbstadt, MD, RD        which says exactly the opposite.

I think that perhaps the articles represent two schools of thought.  It would have been helpful had that been referenced in the Bilof article.

HW 240/ SW 229/ GW 146/CW 125; OH Support Group Leader   

Starting size:  18W-20;  Present size: 0 or 2; 5'5-1/2" tall. 
Current BMI 20.4 as of 2/13/2013 (normal for the first time in my life).
Goal weight reached on 8/12/2010; As of 1/13/2013, 21 pounds below goal

Bette B.
on 1/22/12 11:50 am
 I'm of the school that whatever works for someone should be continued. 

    

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ruggie
on 1/22/12 12:31 pm - Sacramento, CA
Is this article available online?

     

Heaviest weight:  310 pounds  (Male, 5'10")

shoegirl1023
on 1/23/12 5:03 am - Solon, OH
I have no idea but you could check on the magazines website. The Dr's name is Dr Michael Bilof

JOANNE 
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MacMadame
on 1/22/12 2:56 pm - Northern, CA
If you are healthy and happy and at a good weight, I wouldn't worry too much about some random doctor's opinions about nutrition. They don't know you and they aren't treating you.

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shoegirl1023
on 1/23/12 5:00 am - Solon, OH
You are so right there!

Thanks

JOANNE 
OH Support Group Leader
My local support group meets the 2nd Tuesday of each month - please message me for further information

We are on a continuous journey without a destination




Gina 21 Years Out
on 1/22/12 6:31 pm - Burleson, TX

SHOEGIRL-I read the article-then read it AGAIN-after reading your post.

My surgeon had the hands of angel. He knew everything, about everything, about SURGERY stuff...but he didn't know jack squat about follow up nutrition. The good news was that he did not pretend to know and trusted other people, who were the "experts" in THOSE fields, and concentrated on his doctoring. He also knew I had the good sense to search out what was best for ME--just like YOU have done.

YOU know what works for YOU. WOW-what a success story you are!!! You didn't say, but since you're careful with everythng else, I'm begging you're keeping up with your labs too. IMHO, there's no better protein option than fish-so-if you like it-continue going for it!

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