Thank You For Your Interesting Replies

I never said day drinking was a good idea lol! What I did say is I got in trouble with transfer addiction like many post ops here and outside this forum . I had practically no alcohol experience whatsoever as long as I was getting drunk daily binging excess food .

I did sincerely try abstinence and stuck out the " thirteen stepping " excuses of male-dominated ( and lowlife newcomer female behavior excusing AA) . My point is there are other addiction therapies than abstinence that have far higher recovery rates than twelve step based abstinence . There are very interesting popular books available on the subject and even hugely expensive rehabs mostly on the west coast where addiction is an exponentially more serious problem . I'm just trying to open a discussion on what works for us based on personal experience .

Hiw do you deal with pressure , going to sleep at night , dating , social events and work events ? I need another way to relax than exhausting myself with three hours of working out to get a runners high ( and even with that I find myself craving relief and relaxation after dinner)

I saw a therapist twice a week for the past three years and also a family therapist for my family. It's been a TREMENDOUS help tho I think she dials it in a bit because she can't relate . I'd like to find a therapist who understands excess eating and how serious it is . I'm getting judged like an idiot by people who never experienced this issue and think of me as six hundred pound life . I feel treated with less and less respect as I dare get more honest .

The subject ( post op transfer addiction and alcohol use ) is interesting and it?s a shame an honest if controversial thread is eliminated simply because the original posters opinion expressed is not momentarily popular .

Please let?s remember the great protein controversy ... turns out excess protein does cause deadly kidney disease.Bariatric Surgeons now do not encourage supplementing protein past a few weeks or at the most months. We always learn from each other ... and OH is one of the best places to learn how to live happily and healthily post op based on our own real- life experiences.

To respond to a few comments : yes I?m a great example of what not to do lol ... some of my past posts were written impaired and were very whacked. However I think much more than transfer addiction went into getting and keeping me trapped for a few years.

I think when we get rid of the binging all our weaknesses come out of hiding . I wish I?d started with weekly therapy right after surgery ( I didn?t because I was in a honeymoon phase and happy ) . But even then the anxiety immature rebelliousness was showing through .... the putting too much pressure on myself .. the lack of self- love skills to soothe myself and comfort myself with anything other than endless sports and gardening . I had no idea about positive relationships especially with the opposite sex.

Interestingly my way of now ( after years of therapy and painful sobriety of a year ) accepting that I need time to relax and permission to enjoy being a responsible adult has led to very very little drinking even when I?m ? allowed to ? . Slowly I?m dealing with my emotional immaturity and rebelliousness ( I?m growing myself up ) without running to a substance . Though I give myself permission to have five drinks for the last three nights I?ve only had one or two and last night I threw most of my first glass of wine out .

I will just point out Jeneen someone?s book a long time ago where she dealt with chronic dieting by giving herself permission to eat ANYTHING in moderation . It worked for her and it worked for me . Still works yet almost every day I choose to eat very healthily. For me alcohol recovery is successfully working the same way . I posted to help others who?d lost their way and who like me will not tolerate suffering .