I need answers

on 3/22/21 3:18 pm

So here is my story and already I know your being able to help me is a long shot. I had my stomach stapled in 1999. I lost 100 pounds but the metal ring that was placed at the bottom of my stomach eroded through. Later I learned this is why they do not do this procedure anymore. I then had a conversion surgery to a gastric bypass in 2012. This was following the death of my daughter. I lost 30 pounds but that was from no appetite due to depression. I never had restriction from the surgery. I had a revision in 2020 (October)) again I have no restriction and am not losing weight. I have done everything I was told and it did not work again. Have you ever heard of this? My pouch is an appropriate size, but I can still eat? Why doesn't it work for me? Why can I still eat? Do I need a ring or device to truly have restriction? I need some help and answers.

on 3/22/21 5:58 pm - TN
VSG on 09/28/15

What kinds of food are you eating? Are you eating protein first and focusing on the protein or eating slider foods?

Had VSG on 9/28/15

Lost 161 lbs since surgery, LOST 221 lbs overall so far!!

on 3/22/21 6:12 pm

I started with a liquid diet and then when I could tolerate it protein first. My question is why don't I have restriction? This is now two surgeries and the result is the same. Is there a medical explanation for why this happens?

Citizen Kim
on 3/23/21 7:40 am - Castle Rock, CO

We are supposed to measure our food, not eat until we're restricted. At 17 years out, I rarely eat to the point that I feel restricted.

I'm shocked that a surgeon has revised and revised you and not given you the most basic of the lifestyle change that is necessary to be successful.

You should be eating at most a cup of food at a sitting. Protein first, then vegetables. White carbs, bread, pasta, rice, potatoes are not necessary if you want to lose weight.

You need to drink a minimum of 64 oz and exercise (consciously move) to regain your health

Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist

on 3/23/21 7:54 am

I have tried to put these types of restrictions on myself but the "tool " that is my surgery does not influence the amount I am able to eat. I was wondering if there is a medical reason this is happening.

Citizen Kim
on 3/24/21 7:06 am, edited 3/24/21 12:07 am - Castle Rock, CO

That's not how this surgery is supposed to work, but here goes:

Boil a chicken or turkey breast (in broth for flavor). Pour away the broth. Weigh the chicken. Eat the chicken dry, and then weigh the remainder. Do not drink anything while eating.

I guarantee you will feel restriction.

Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist

Janet P.
on 3/24/21 10:08 am

"able" and "should" are two different things. Your surgery is only a tool. You need to change your behavior and not rely 100% on your surgery.

Are you eating until you're full? Do you know how much you should be eating? Do you weigh/measure your food? Maybe go back to basics for your particular surgery (I think you said you had the RNY).

Some tricks I still use 18 years later - use a small plate. I never eat off a dinner plate. It's a mind game - if you use a smaller plate it appears there's more food on your plate. Use a small fork and teaspoon. Forces you to take smaller bites. Put your fork down between bites. It should take you at least 20-30 minutes to eat a meal.

Janet in Leesburg
DS 2/25/03
Hazem Elariny

on 3/24/21 12:09 pm

I do not eat until I am full. I know the ins and outs dietary wise. When most ppl have surgery the first month they can barely drink let alone eat. This was never my case neither time with this procedure. I am wondering is there a medical mechanism that could be in place that I am unaware of specific time my digestive track. This is obviously not the norm and as I said I had that feeling of a tool only when I had the medal ring.

on 3/23/21 9:40 am

Restriction is subjective for some people. It depends on what you are eating and how often. Are you measuring and weighing your food? I have seen people state that they never had restriction but as soon as they started eating dense protein, that was when the knew they did have restriction. If you can share what you eat on a daily basis, we might be able to see if the foods you are eating might be "slider foods" which can result in someone being able to eat more volume.

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