I am going to get back on track again..

MajorMom
on 12/31/07 5:47 am - VA
Hey Karen. I think Lori would agree that you should post on the Food and Fitness thread. Especially if you're trying to increase your protein and reduce your carbs! It's good practice! That goes for everybody getting ready to have DS and trying to learn the ropes. What do you think Lori? Gina 
KRWaters
on 12/31/07 9:52 am - Manteca, CA
Good idea Gina. Thx.

KAREN W. 


I LOVE MY DS!!!!!

STRIVE TO BE THE BEST YOU CAN BE AND DO THE BEST THAT YOU CAN.


Check out
www.dsfacts.com  and www.duodenalswitch.com
 for all the accurate information on the great DS, and find surgeons in your area or around the country or out of the country.

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SW: 234.5     CW: 157   GW: 140 - ish 

 

happy_days
on 12/31/07 6:13 am - Sunny, KY
I applaud you for taking steps in the right direction.  Let the comment slide off your back.  Anything you can do with upping the protein will help you in the long term.  :) Tiffany
Diets don't work, the DS DOES!
393.6/139/135

KRWaters
on 12/31/07 9:53 am - Manteca, CA
Thank you Tiffany. I need all the encouragement I can get.

KAREN W. 


I LOVE MY DS!!!!!

STRIVE TO BE THE BEST YOU CAN BE AND DO THE BEST THAT YOU CAN.


Check out
www.dsfacts.com  and www.duodenalswitch.com
 for all the accurate information on the great DS, and find surgeons in your area or around the country or out of the country.

I couldn't have done without all the great peeps on this board.

SW: 234.5     CW: 157   GW: 140 - ish 

 

Lori Black
on 12/31/07 6:44 am - , IN
Wishing you the best Karen!  Ya know, you are welcome to post on the Food & Fitness thread if you are the type that likes being held accountable.  Just wanted you to know!  You'll do great! Happy new year!
PlumpKitty
on 12/31/07 6:55 am - Fredericton, Canada
Now dont be getting on your high horse there missy. This "Im going to get back on track again.." post only proves I was right to start with. You need to come to terms with some hard and ugly facts. A stretched pouch isnt why your RNY failed you. I know I can eat as much or more than "normal" people now. I dont eat as much as over weight people though, or even close. Your pouch isnt meant to stay 1ounce for long. A normal post op RNY patient should be eating 8 - 12ounces per meal for life after the first 18 months or so. An 8 - 12 ounce meal is actually pretty big. Its not the 2 whole pizzas I could down pre op but thats a small sacrifice to pay for me. You could be skinny by next year without further surgery if you followed the same rules I do. NO its NOT easy. Living life after wls isnt easy in general. I sure as heck never ate like this pre op. Not just volume wise either. I rarely ate meat or protein based foods. A loaf of white bread toasted and dripping in melted hard margarine and jam, eaten over the coure of the day as snacks, was a little slice of heaven to me. Its also hands down about as BAD as food can get when it comes to my body turning it into fat instead of energy. I could easily STILL do that now, volume and all. The only thing that stops me is filling up on protein and fluids and changing my mind to not eat simple carbs regularly anymore. You had the RNY and never hang out on the RNY board UNLESS its to talk about the DS you dont have. Why is this? Maybe because you know you are non compliant and to hang out with us, reading how we live and lose weight is too hard to read knowing you dont do it yourself. I know what its like to be around people who have succeeded where I failed. Its hell. Its even worse when I know I failed on my own and not due to cir****tance. If someone came over to this board and said "DS sucks, it failed me I only lost X weight and regained X weight" and THEN said something like "I eat much less than 100 grams of protein a day, mcuh less than 80 grams of fat a day and over 500 grams of carbs a day" you can bet everyone here would say HOLD on, you gotta eat right or suffer the concequences.  One thing that really scares me is revision surgery. Revisions are more dangerous surgeries in general and revision patients have even lower weight loss stats than the rest of us :( Basically if you cant follow the rules of one wls technique what's to stop you from following another one? Obviously mechanical failure is NOT in this category.  You can hate me for telling you the truth. That's life. I hope that you see there is a "diet" involved with the DS. It requires MORE protein based foods than they RNY. This is one of the reasons I was personally turned off of the DS. I grew up on kraft dinner, oatmeal, toast, cookies, cake and other protein free foods. In the past I would lust carbs and simply tolerate protein. Being "honest" to you about your issues is the same as being honest to me because IF I fail at RNY it will be from going back to that 100% carb diet I lived with my whole life. A DS revision would just be another chance for me to die on the operating table to be even more severely pushing myself into a high protein diet. If nothing else, getting back on track now will help you get your labs perfect before surgery, lose a couple of pounds and get you into the groove for your new life as a post op DS patient. None of which am I sorry for. The always dispisable, PK
327/318/150/  start/surgery/goal
**Current Weight 149 pounds**
I *AM* the PK 
BBoop
on 12/31/07 7:02 am
PK:  Go back to the RNY board and leave Karen alone.  Sometimes, regardless of what people do the RNY fails them, as do the lap and so forth.  It is a known fact.  I think it is extremely unkind of you to "speak" to her in this way. You are making gross assumptions about Karen's behavior after the RNY.   Why are you so unpleasant?  Is it your goal to hurt people who are dealing with a devastaing issue of a failed WLS?  There is such a thing and doctors will admit it...failed WLS.  Look it up. Please do not come back over here and attack some one who is trying to improve the quality of their life and who wants to do better.  Your words are just dispicable.  Shame on you. By the way, you are ugly and at least Karen is just overweight...she can do something about that.
PlumpKitty
on 12/31/07 7:12 am - Fredericton, Canada
Actually they arent "assumptions" you are "assuming" I dont know of what I speak. Karen has posted her regular foods in other threads. They are not RNY compliant.  I am unpleasant in ts cir****tance because DS needs diet modification for high carb eaters too.  DEVASTATING is allowing Karen to believe that her RNY mishap is all the terrible fault of a bad surgery and the DS is a magic cure that will set her free without ever mentioning that the same habits that have her stuck in the RNY can get her just as stuck in the DS. DEVESTATING is also allowing Karen to believe their is no hope for her without the DS. She has the tools to help helself now. She could be fighting to get her DS for a looong time. In that time should she roll over and give up or should she fight? Thats her decision to make, but I am honestly going to route for her to FIGHT! Shame on YOU for not being real about the facts of obesity. I have been there done that, regained the weight and slit my wrists after several times. I know what failure is like, regardless of the cause and I wish someone had the decency to get me off my pity pot and help me see clearly that I have some control. No it may not be as much control as I want to have, but some is better than none so quit throwing it away.  I KNOW Im not the only one who feels this way. Sad that someone she doesnt even like has to "help" her see the reality of this situation. IF I were a DSer saying these things to Karen it would be seen as "tough love" to ponder and mull, not an attack on her character. Cest la vie PK
327/318/150/  start/surgery/goal
**Current Weight 149 pounds**
I *AM* the PK 
KRWaters
on 12/31/07 10:32 am - Manteca, CA
When have you read what foods I have eaten? I always eaten protein, just sometimes with a mini bagel or a tortilla. I rarely eat candy, but do on occasion. I thnk you are mixing me up with someone else possibly?

KAREN W. 


I LOVE MY DS!!!!!

STRIVE TO BE THE BEST YOU CAN BE AND DO THE BEST THAT YOU CAN.


Check out
www.dsfacts.com  and www.duodenalswitch.com
 for all the accurate information on the great DS, and find surgeons in your area or around the country or out of the country.

I couldn't have done without all the great peeps on this board.

SW: 234.5     CW: 157   GW: 140 - ish 

 

PlumpKitty
on 12/31/07 10:47 am - Fredericton, Canada
You may not have noticed but I have zero life. This is pretty much all I do most days. No Im not confusing you with someone else. You have posted what you eat on occaision to the CA board, the main board, rny board and DS board over the last year... I doubt you know how much bad food you eat because most of us dont. This is why I journal. I dont want to fall back into the habit of just putting food in my mouth because its there. RNY weight regain is a reality I knew about before surgery. I hope to keep it from happening by being honest with myself, when I eat right and when I dont. I lied to myself about food long enough in my last life. This one Im not leaving things up to chance. You have shown on many occaisions that you are non compliant to the RNY post op diet. I too am unable to exercise. I have severe debilitating mental illness *yes Im putting it out there even though its just more amunition for people who dont like me, have at it ;)* I also have medical problems not cured by weight loss. I knew before I ever lost one pound that it was unlikely for me to ever exercise regularly and made my post op plan accordingly. It can be done, Im doing it and I will continue to do it because Im worth it. Good luck Karen and try to not see the negative in the positive. I was never mean to you, the truth is often brutal, painful and ignorable. That doesnt make it mean. HUGS PK
327/318/150/  start/surgery/goal
**Current Weight 149 pounds**
I *AM* the PK 
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