Eugene.A’s Posts
I got the DS back in 2007 and I am regretting it everyday. Right before my DS surgery I wanted to change and get the Sleeve done but my doctor only did his first Sleeve at the time about 2 weeks before mine and he said I would benefit better with the DS. So I got the DS done. Well right when they was getting me ready fir surgery the doctor was walking around me looking confused. I think he notice I was already nervous but the way he was passing back and forth was making me more nervous. Again I think he noticed and said to me don't worry I am just trying to decide how much of your intestines I am going to bypass. Well I was laying there thinking to myself that should of already been decided and I was really nervous to where the nurse who was getting me ready noticed my heart rating going up so they gave me something to Calm me down. Well fast forward I was no longer diabetic, I was taking off my high blood pressure medicine. But I was having problems with being Anaemic which my doctor told me not to worry about. I lost 143 pounds with in a year and other peoplethat had the surgery right before me and within a week after me didn't lose that much that quick. So every year I get my check up and all my vitamin levels are good but I was still Anaemic and my iron was good?. Well now my heart rate is low sometimes really low 38 to 40. Went to 2 heart specialist and they don't know why my heart rate is so low. Anyway I have been having bad bathroom issues sometimes ever since my surgery and the worst issue happens at night while I'm sleeping. I have a posting I put up on the DS form about it. No matter what I eat. I have a posting I put up on the DS form about it. I think my doctor bypassed to much of my Intestines because why would he be thinking on how much to bypass while they was getting me ready for surgery that should of already been thought out. Anyway I know I can't get the surgery reversed but I am hoping to find a doctor to somehow see if my doctor did bypass to much and I'm hoping they can go back in to maybe lengthen my intestines that he made shorter. Anyway like someone said look into it before you jump into the DS and please make sure you doctor already made a decision about how much to bypass way before your surgery. The chewable Vitamins are real expensive too. I would of rather lost the weight more slower than what I did and I think that I wouldn't have the problems i am having now. My Bariatric doctor retired but he was no help because everytime my other doctors told me to ask him a question he got real defensive and said that my problem wasn't from what he did in the surgery. Do yourself a favor Research Research Research!!! Good luck in what ever you decide to do. By the way I still get hungry about every 2 hours still but only eat smaller portions.
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It does not really matter if pos or neg, that is for Rh factor.... if A blood type..
The doctors have no clue because is in long term care of ppl w/ WLS.
They are "not read" on the subject- have not encountered. IT is not a common problem.
I would rate explosions at night as needs resolution last week and the hgb as need to address now.
Each of these i have experienced to some degree, mine was not " just" night.
Neither of these treatment/trials are expensive and are generally safe..if imodium works for you- like me- will be well worth the trial..and you will know by morning..
Both are something to "trial" when others have offered no solutions or answers. after i got my iron levels up, i use maintenance dose of 2 caps 2 x a week- i just hate to take pills and have limited space for them...
With all the vitamins i take they say you can't or shouldn't take this one or that one together or take different ones with any medication and you have to space them 2 hours apart I don't have enough time in a day because they say don't take certain one's together but space them 2 hours apart. ? I GIVE UP.?
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I want you to know you are not in this alone.You will find the issue . and it can be fixed.
Yes i t is possible to have normal IRON binding capacity or level and low hemoglobin. The intrinsic issue is common in people with A blood type, My DM (A+)did not have the same issue and she had wls surgery.... I have it., also A+.. is the most likely.since all other tests negative presently.
Each body responds differently to gastric surgery. You are on this journey to find your unique internal response and re-balance to your optimal.You need to figure this out before it becomes critical.
I went critical. It is NOT fun.My problems became apparent @5 years. I had lost all medical coverage 2.5 years prior.My HGB/iron/HCT all were critical low., dropping slowly....and i had a twisted gut. 6 days vacation, tubes in both ends for 24 hours, low intermittent upper gastric suctioningx5 days, 2 units PRBc's. then i had energy and stamina.
My logic is:If you have your base line labs and TRY low dose liver extract cap for 6-8-+ weeks- between now and the new consult... - ie. is possible your labs - new doctor would require- to have for a comparative- would reflect effectiveness./not. (THE NUMBERS should begin to reflect change in 6 weeks- according to the internist who gave me the information.) AT the very least it would confirm not the issue,OR the best outcome: levels would be nearing or on way to normal.
This is August. it would give your system 10 weeks to respond while you are WAITING.. the caps w/ extracted liver are not that expensive...much easier than eating 3 oz of liver a day.
Whether we like it or not our bodies ARE in charge , their communication is clear. Somewhere their are (at least 2) issues. I suspect, both are in the gut, (The intrinsic factor is made in first section of gut attached to the normal stoma*****omplete digestion most common cause of explosive gas.)
.Since your present doctors have NO Clue., and have done multiple tests. This seems reasonable.
IF you are still having diarrhea at night and explosive gas i would try Imodium(I would take 2 first night, and see if it works,.. then one each night until i got this figured out).. in evening 2-3 hrs after evening meal.. it will absorb gas. so will charcoal. This sounds like incomplete digestion issue. When I eat something that disagrees with me, 3 days are sometimes required for me -to get the end result.I love bananas but can not eat them.they take 3 days to be heard.
An elimination diet might be in order to find your offending food./RE GAS: milk, lecithin,soy, beans, legumes,sweet peas, nuts, artificial sweeteners- all are common offenders.
Since your worst time is night, be sure to read every label,of foods from noon til bed- and do a written diet diary to track down your offender. Once you find it, you can get the enzyme specific to that food.will no longer require meds for gas or diarrhea.
IF there is one food you have every day- start with eliminating that food and all the ingredients it contains.5 days minimum-7-10 better yet. if symptoms continue, is not the one offender. can resume and eliminate another one.
My blood type is A but don't remember if it is positive or negative ?. I just about ready to give up on trying to find out and the doctors don't help because it seems like they are just guessing ??
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Eugene for low iron... TRY Foltrin( a rx) that contains intrinsi factor.... OR Liver extract capsules( is a liver in a capsule. It sounds like you do not have the intrinsic factor that allows body to use /absorb iron from foods. I have this issue.. Carlson labs puts out a calf and also an organic buffalo liver capsule.. they say dose is 6 A DAY. I ROUTINELY USE 2... it is not the iron you need but the factor liver contains. LIVER is the only food source for this intrinsic factor, I once got it for 6 weeks straight by eating liver patties 2 a day 6 days a week..
All my vitamins levels are good even iron. That's why they are having problems finding what is wrong with my hemoglobin levels being low and other blood levels being high or low. But I haven't found anyone that knows about the problem I am having at night with the gas and very loose stools while I sleep. Powder Fiber formula mix with water and eating some yogurt is helping a little and cheese is making my stools a little Firmer but still not solid if I eat it before I go to bed but I can't keep eating that much cheese.
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On my own, I figured out a lot of my loose stool and flatulence issues after surgery were caused by my bariatric vitamins. They were sweetened with sugar alcohol and my body cannot tolerate that.
I switched to a vitamin without sugar alcohol and most of the issues disappeared. I also gave up all products with sugar alcohols. They were delicious but I really suffered after eating them.
A few years after surgery, I developed hyperparathyroidism. My levels were in the 300's. I spent about two years with different doctors and specialists. None of them could figure out what caused it. My calcium levels were high and they took me off of calcium supplements. Nothing helped and none of them could give me a cause. No tumors, nothing showed up on scans. I finally just accepted it and stopped worrying about it.
If I eat fresh fruit, I sometimes take an Imodium with it. I also have had constipation issues bad enough to go to the emergency room where they x-rayed and prescribed magnesium citrate. I have almost never had a time since RNY surgery when I was not treating constipation or diarrhea issues.
I am constantly aware of what I eat and what can happen. This is the price I paid for my quick and easy weight loss.
I stopped with the chewable vitamins in 2019 after I found out I have prostate cancer Because they told me any sugar the cancer feeds off of.
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Hi all sorry I haven't gotten back but been having issues with my blood levels some being high some being low especially my hemoglobin levels being low and it's not Because of any of my vitamins levels they are all fine. I been having all kinds of test being done from a bone marrow test and a bone sample test to all kinds of different blood test and so far everything comes back fine but the blood specialist says something is not right but she can't figure it out. So I am going to go to the university of Penn Hospital after a lot of people told me that's where I needed to go to see if they can figure this out if they can't I give up. I asked the blood specialist doctor if my bed time issues can be related to this problem and she said no not at all. So I made a appointment but couldn't get one until November to see the doctor that I looked up and has a very high rating from Patient that have been treated by him. I am also hoping that maybe he can steer me to someone that does the DS surgery that can maybe help me with my issue. Everything I read makes me believe that I am having dumping Syndrome and that the food is going to fast through my intestines and causes my problem. Well I guess I have to wait until November and I pray they can help me with all my issues because a friend of mine told me a doctor told him that for a problem like this Jersey doctors aren't as good as the Penn doctors and after being treated by all different doctors here where I live in NJ I can say they got me frustrated and seem like they are just guessing so maybe that doctor that told my friend was right?. Anyway back to my original topic. The yogurt and me taking a daily fiber formula seems to help a little but again if I eat the extra sharp cheese like almost half of the small block that you can buy for cutting when having a party if seems to work a lot better. But eating that before I go to bed a get like a film in my mouth and it then gives me mucus. I have always have has very lose stool after my surgery but my main problem is at night I get gassy and that's when I have the bed time issues and like I said if I eat a lot of cheese it seems to help it a lot so I'm hoping there is something I can take other then eating a half of a block of extra sharp cheese. All in all I am one big mess?. If I don't answer back right away is because I am trying to deal with all of this at one time and I am very frustrated trying to deal with all of this. Thanks for all the response and help?
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Also you could try giving up dairy foods to see if it helps. I became lactose intolerant for a while after my surgery.
I don't drink milk or didn't do much if any dairy products at all except when I just tried the yogurt and after a while added cheese.
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Maybe I should try more prebiotic if the fiber doesn't work or should I try more prebiotic first because eating yogurt is helping and I have been eating a big piece of extra sharp cheese before I go to bed seem to help more????
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I just started ieating yogurt and it helped a little that's why I said about trying more fiber in the form of powder or capsule to see if that help.
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The main problem is while I am sleeping.
All during the day I'm OK with it. Just not while I am sleeping or trying to sleep ?. I don't get any good sleep because of it because I'm always waking up checking myself. All because at night while sleeping is when I have a lot of gas and sometimes with gas a have very very lose stool.
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I take the chewable 500 mg of calcium citrate everyday. I am going to try to add a little more fiber by taking the fiber supplements to see if that helps.
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I do eat egg a day lol. I think I going to get fiber Supplement to get extra fiber to see if it helps just got to get the right fiber product.
Thanks for answering my questions
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It is getting so embarrassing I can't stand it.
I had the DS 14 years ago(2007) and I have been having very very lose stool lately and its getting worse over the pass year especially at night while sleeping and they are getting worse to where I am afraid to go on any vacation with other people because at night I wake up sometimes and while sleeping I guess I think I'm passing gas but I'm not and then I can't or afraid to try to go back to sleep and I also find myself getting Dehydrated more. I been telling my doctor for a while now and he keeps telling me it's what I am eating but I eat thing with fiber and stay away from food high in carbs but it gets a little better but still happens. Does orvdid anyone else have this problem and what did you do to help or stop it? I'm thinking about maybe taking more fiber in a form of powder or capsule to see if it helps
. Does anybody think that taking extra fiber in form of pill or powder will help??Also if I do wake up in time to make it to go to the bathroom and after I feel empty I'll lay back down in bed and a minute or so later my stomach starts gurgling to where I jump up and have to go again after feeling empty after going just a minute before. Any suggestions would be very appreciated. Lately my DS doctor was no help really and now he retired this year so I'm looking for help on here.
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My Doctor was DR.Greenbaum he is the one that did the surgery and like I said when they was getting me ready for surgery he was still think about how much of my Intestines to remove up until they put me to sleep. Every time I asked him a question or had a question from my family doctor he got real defensive. Like I told him I am not blaming anyone I just want it Corrected if there is a problem but I never really got a answer. But the last time I saw him right before he retired I asked him again because I lost to much weight and he just gave me a script for a medicine to help gain weight which it gave me the runs real bad and made me feel bad so I stopped taking it.
The doctor I am going to is Dr.Iqbal in Vineland NJ.
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My Doctor was DR.Greenbaum he is the one that did the surgery and like I said when they was getting me ready for surgery he was still think about how much of my Intestines to remove up until they put me to sleep. Every time I asked him a question or had a question from my family doctor he got real defensive. Like I told him I am not blaming anyone I just want it Corrected if there is a problem but I never really got a answer. But the last time I saw him right before he retired I asked him again because I lost to much weight and he just gave me a script for a medicine to help gain weight which it gave me the runs real bad and made me feel bad so I stopped taking it.
The doctor I am going to is Dr.Iqbal in Vineland NJ.
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Hi I had the Duodenal switch back in 2007 and have always had problems with being Anaemic after the surgery and my hemoglobin levels are real low.
I was told by the people I get my vitamins from that I shouldn't be taking my iron pills with any other vitamins or medicine but when my doctor gave me information about taking my vitamins(back in 2007) it said in morning take my calcium citrate with my multivitamin with extra A,D,E & K. Afyer lunch take my vitamin dry D3 and dry A with my iron pills. I just read that I shouldn't mix my Calcium pills with my multi vitamins. I don't know what to do because MAYBE this might be causing some Vitamin deficiency???? My Bariatric doctor just retired. My question to anyone did your doctor give you information on how and when to take your vitamins and what vitamins not to mix with others??? I am going to another Bariatric Doctor on April 1st. I am also thinking about asking about trying to reverse my DS because Ever since surgery I have been having nothing but problems i have been dealing with for a long time and I feel My bariatric surgeon may have taken to much of my Intestines out because When they were preparing me for surgery he was still debating on how much of my Intestines to take out and I wasn't too happy with that And days before the surgery I was asking about the sleeve that just came out and he said he only did one surgery with the sleeve and said he wasn't doing another one until he found out what the results were from that one person. I wish now i would stuck to my guns and waited to have the Sleeve but my Doctor/Surgeon talked me into the full DS. I'm just looking to get my health back on track?
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Thank you all.
Leslie,Sorry to hear about your Dad I hope things go well for him.
As for the Party there were a lot of people there and the food was good. Tina was funny and having a good time and yes she got me 
and pulled me on the Dance floor LOL
. The DJ was ok to. All in all it was a good time but i think the weather keep some People from far up north from going because the weather was bad up there. I may not be at the meetings for a while like around April because of wrok and the weather if it is bad.
Thank you all again
Eugene
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I tried to put one of the after pictures for my Avatar but the way it came up it seem like the length shrunk and it made me look big again and i don't know how to make it look right
so i took that off.
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I now have Pictures of me on my Pro file
The after pictures were taken before last night's Christmas Party (12/06/08).
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I was told that Devrom was the best thing going but as of right now it isn't working for me
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Thank you
Eugene
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and i mean it has been real Bad stink even i can't take it 
!!! If you find something that works please let me know ASAP!!! or if anybody knows of something i can take please let me know ASAP. Leslie Are you going to the Christmas party this year ??? Hope to see you soon Eugene
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#1: "Okay" does not necessarily mean "acceptable levels as a DS'er." If you would like to post your lab results here, along with what the normal limits levels are from the lab you used, you could get some feedback from some of us who've been doing the supplement dance for a while.
#2. How much protein are you routinely getting in per day? This is one area where I emphatically, VEHEMENTLY disagree with Dr. G. He says to aim for "50-100" grams per day. NO WAY. You need AT LEAST 100 grams of protein per day, every day, without fail, probably more since you're a guy. If you can get this much protein in with food, then it's time to add protein supplements. This is really, really important.
Hey, did you make it to the meeting last week? Christina and I were there. We came in late and sat in the front row, left side.
I wish there was a way to just take a protien pill LOL i take my 2 protein drinks a day and plus what ever i eat but to be honest i don't know how much protein intake i get a day but i don't see how much m,ore i can take because with me drinking the protein and eating i don't have enought time to get anything else in.
Thank you all for your input.
Eugene
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yes i take my iron and like i said all of my lab test came back OK. so i don't know what else to do.
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