STILL confused about viatmins...bear with me
OK.
I mentioned before that I surgeon's office recommends ONLY
1. High Potency chewable multivitamin
2. Calcium Citrate + Vitamin D
3. Iron
4. ADEK
Several of you mentioned that this was not enough. My surgeon's nutritionist said that they go bu the above because it is the recommended daily "minimum" of the bariatric surgeon assoc. of america.
Now, in looking at Vitalady's Viatmin Schedule, there are 7 more vitamins listed
1. Vitamin C
2. Copper
3. Vitamin b-12
4. B Complex
5. Zinc
6. Folic Acid
7. Magnesium
Do I really need all of this in addition to my doctor's recommendation?
OK...then I also STILL don't know if I can swallow these as pills or if I need them as chewables.
And finally...are more expensive viatmins "better" for you than cheap ones?
I am trying not to be an idiot here, but ...
THANKS AGAIN!
(to be switched by Dr. Spaw 8-31)
I mentioned before that I surgeon's office recommends ONLY
1. High Potency chewable multivitamin
2. Calcium Citrate + Vitamin D
3. Iron
4. ADEK
Several of you mentioned that this was not enough. My surgeon's nutritionist said that they go bu the above because it is the recommended daily "minimum" of the bariatric surgeon assoc. of america.
Now, in looking at Vitalady's Viatmin Schedule, there are 7 more vitamins listed
1. Vitamin C
2. Copper
3. Vitamin b-12
4. B Complex
5. Zinc
6. Folic Acid
7. Magnesium
Do I really need all of this in addition to my doctor's recommendation?
OK...then I also STILL don't know if I can swallow these as pills or if I need them as chewables.
And finally...are more expensive viatmins "better" for you than cheap ones?
I am trying not to be an idiot here, but ...
THANKS AGAIN!
(to be switched by Dr. Spaw 8-31)
Shannon
Shannon,
In order to figure out what vitamins to take post-op, it's important to know where you stand with your current lab values. Many of us, even pre-op, are walking around with deficiencies we don't even know about.
Like your surgeon, mine recommends a very minimum supplement regimen. I have seen too many people go way down in their labs on that plan, so I started out more aggressively. I basically did a modified version of Vitalady's plan based on my pre-op labs.
Do you have your levels? If you post them, maybe we can help. I'd personally recommend erring on the side of taking too many vitamins than not enough. Once those levels get down low, it can be very difficult to bring them up again.
Jenna
In order to figure out what vitamins to take post-op, it's important to know where you stand with your current lab values. Many of us, even pre-op, are walking around with deficiencies we don't even know about.
Like your surgeon, mine recommends a very minimum supplement regimen. I have seen too many people go way down in their labs on that plan, so I started out more aggressively. I basically did a modified version of Vitalady's plan based on my pre-op labs.
Do you have your levels? If you post them, maybe we can help. I'd personally recommend erring on the side of taking too many vitamins than not enough. Once those levels get down low, it can be very difficult to bring them up again.
Jenna
No, you are not an idiot, your doctor just is not trained about vitamins and supplements.
Forget the list your Dr gave you and just follow Vitalady's recommended schedule and adjust your vitamins after you get your 3 month labs.
I use most of Vitalady's products and supplement them with items from Puritan Pride.
Forget the list your Dr gave you and just follow Vitalady's recommended schedule and adjust your vitamins after you get your 3 month labs.
I use most of Vitalady's products and supplement them with items from Puritan Pride.
My surgeon recommends a pretty similar vitamin regimen and says that if things start to fall, we'll tweak it. So I've followed his plan, and guess what? I'm slowly adding in all the vitalady vitamins at 9 months out because things are starting to turn in the downward direction. So if I had to write a letter to me, I'd tell myself nine months ago to stop being a big baby about so many pills and take them.
Ms. Cal Culator
on 8/10/10 10:17 am - Tuvalu
on 8/10/10 10:17 am - Tuvalu
Here's what the ASBMS website says:
www.asbs.org/Newsite07/resources/bgs_final.pdf
HOWEVER...these are surgeons, not endocrinologists, not hematologists.
AND...there are multis and there are multis. I think that VitaLady--and I'm just guessing here--prefers individual pills rather than "vitamin ****tails" that may not have been mixed in the proportions she wants.
Anyway...look at the list...the ASBMS recommends magensium, for example, but seems to be hoping it will be in the multis. Their hypothetical multi contains...zinc and folic acid and selenium and does not have an enteric coating and they mention that additional B12 may be needed and they want the calcium to have D3 in it and so on.
Some folks want it all pre-calculated for them and they'll just hope they are the right amounts. Others want more personal control. (SOME of you would call us "control freaks," but we don't care. LOL)
Sue
You are not an idiot. I wish that you would list all your questions in one thread at a time as they come to your mind, but that is a style thing and not a "smarts" thing. You're working on learning this stuff and that is terrific and mandatory. Keep plugging away.
Okay. Here's my silly question for you to consider: Why on EARTH would you try to conform just to the "minimum" requirements for health? Especially when there's basically NO science to say that those "minimums" have a darned thing to do with reality, but there's a crapload of anecdotal evidence (testimonials) to say that Vitalady's methods are marvelous and the ASMBS minimums suck and land people in deficiency/malnutrition world?
I use generic versions wherever possible, which means multi, calcium citrate, zinc and magnesium citrate. All others come from Vitalady and are her "tender" labeled versions except for copper. Total cost about $45 per month, compared to $250 per month in copays for rx stuff before I had the DS.
Okay. Here's my silly question for you to consider: Why on EARTH would you try to conform just to the "minimum" requirements for health? Especially when there's basically NO science to say that those "minimums" have a darned thing to do with reality, but there's a crapload of anecdotal evidence (testimonials) to say that Vitalady's methods are marvelous and the ASMBS minimums suck and land people in deficiency/malnutrition world?
I use generic versions wherever possible, which means multi, calcium citrate, zinc and magnesium citrate. All others come from Vitalady and are her "tender" labeled versions except for copper. Total cost about $45 per month, compared to $250 per month in copays for rx stuff before I had the DS.
When I was in my research stage and reading OH boards, I kept reading that people followed Vitalady's vitamin plan and had good labs. That was all I needed to hear so I just figured I'd follow suit. I do and my labs have been excellent. I'll adjust as needed. It took all of the guess work out for me and made it simple. Yes, it's a lot of supplements but they save my life and my quality of life so it's a no-brainer.
I was just telling my dad that THANK GOD I am on these boards. I can't imagine where I would be health wise without the knowledge here.
Cheers,
Cathy
I was just telling my dad that THANK GOD I am on these boards. I can't imagine where I would be health wise without the knowledge here.
Cheers,
Cathy
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