More about the DS that you may not know
More "procedural" over that of any real fight nowwith Kaiser, Nicole, so try and relax. And you'd be contracted with one of the very best world class DS surgeons in the world. -Rabkin.
I should think your biggest challenge will be seeing how joyful your husband will find eating so well post-op without laboring under some of your required limitations. Now that's not a dig, just a RNY generalized fact necessitating severely restricting calories, fats and carbs in contrast with the DS in order to be successful. Unfortunately, even following the rules with other WLS types doesn't always allow for success. It's just a sad well documented fact in seen in many repeatable peer reviewed studies.
We DS'rs can't and don't eat with abandon, although, frankly it really feels that way as a long-term post-op, who here has forever all but eliminated that AWFUL word "dieting" from his vocabulary with little or no weight regain after 5 years now. I am always up and down 5 lbs from my nadir.
Essentially, yes, long-termers at or near goal can quite comfortably and safely consume 3000 calories per day but with a very few rules in place.
1. Protein first-80 to 120 grams or more a day spaced out throughout the day.
2. Complex carbs secondarly, followed by some simple carbs if one is so moved to indulge.
Some days I have really loaded on the simple carbs and knocked off fully half of one my large sponge cakes with caramelized REAL butter frosting which is to die for. But that's pretty rare for me. I usually have some desert each day just like normally thin people do, but like them, I'm easily satiated now so it's not that much- but probably a lot by most RNY standards. The same applies to French fries and fried onions which I used to adore. Thay just don't have the gustatory appeal to me as a post-op. A few bites and I just don't feel like anymore. But fried Fish or Chicken- watch out, I eat almost as much as I did pre-op and it's perfectly safe healthy food for we DS'rs. Overall, I eat a very balanced diet ( Just Lots more than you guys- I have to in order to stay healthy) including lots of veggies, fruits and dairy but fats are not and never will be an issue for me again since I absorb only about 20 % of those. And yes, I have the labs and lipid panels that are the envy of my doctors and virtually any human being on the planet- fat or thin.
3. You MUST supplement daily for life. Not exclusive to the DS and too often ignored by the RNY crowd who have the misfortune of going to the one of many Bariatric surgery mills or have Treatings who don't emphasise the need.
4. One must have FULL, COMPLETE sets of Labs done, preferably quarterly but many do fine biannually.
That's about it... Simple huh, ;-) AND, OH.... WHAT A LIFE NEVER HAVING TO AGAIN... Lets see, what's that DAMNABLE WORD!!!!? "D-I-E-T !!
Rock
I should think your biggest challenge will be seeing how joyful your husband will find eating so well post-op without laboring under some of your required limitations. Now that's not a dig, just a RNY generalized fact necessitating severely restricting calories, fats and carbs in contrast with the DS in order to be successful. Unfortunately, even following the rules with other WLS types doesn't always allow for success. It's just a sad well documented fact in seen in many repeatable peer reviewed studies.
We DS'rs can't and don't eat with abandon, although, frankly it really feels that way as a long-term post-op, who here has forever all but eliminated that AWFUL word "dieting" from his vocabulary with little or no weight regain after 5 years now. I am always up and down 5 lbs from my nadir.
Essentially, yes, long-termers at or near goal can quite comfortably and safely consume 3000 calories per day but with a very few rules in place.
1. Protein first-80 to 120 grams or more a day spaced out throughout the day.
2. Complex carbs secondarly, followed by some simple carbs if one is so moved to indulge.
Some days I have really loaded on the simple carbs and knocked off fully half of one my large sponge cakes with caramelized REAL butter frosting which is to die for. But that's pretty rare for me. I usually have some desert each day just like normally thin people do, but like them, I'm easily satiated now so it's not that much- but probably a lot by most RNY standards. The same applies to French fries and fried onions which I used to adore. Thay just don't have the gustatory appeal to me as a post-op. A few bites and I just don't feel like anymore. But fried Fish or Chicken- watch out, I eat almost as much as I did pre-op and it's perfectly safe healthy food for we DS'rs. Overall, I eat a very balanced diet ( Just Lots more than you guys- I have to in order to stay healthy) including lots of veggies, fruits and dairy but fats are not and never will be an issue for me again since I absorb only about 20 % of those. And yes, I have the labs and lipid panels that are the envy of my doctors and virtually any human being on the planet- fat or thin.
3. You MUST supplement daily for life. Not exclusive to the DS and too often ignored by the RNY crowd who have the misfortune of going to the one of many Bariatric surgery mills or have Treatings who don't emphasise the need.
4. One must have FULL, COMPLETE sets of Labs done, preferably quarterly but many do fine biannually.
That's about it... Simple huh, ;-) AND, OH.... WHAT A LIFE NEVER HAVING TO AGAIN... Lets see, what's that DAMNABLE WORD!!!!? "D-I-E-T !!
Rock
Thanks for the info Rock.
I didn't take that 2nd paragraph as a dig. Since you are right, he wouldn't have the restrictions that I do have. But I really wouldn't look at it as a challenge to see my husband enjoy things I can not, since I do enjoy the way I eat, and the limitations I have, and knowingly that he would never have the willpower to eat the way I do. He was brought up to love his food, and finish his plates, which caused him to be over weight his entire life. That is why as his wife I am determined to make him as healthy as possible. But with the understanding that he wouldn't be able to make a dramatic lifestyle change.
DH loves his fried chicken too! lol
I didn't take that 2nd paragraph as a dig. Since you are right, he wouldn't have the restrictions that I do have. But I really wouldn't look at it as a challenge to see my husband enjoy things I can not, since I do enjoy the way I eat, and the limitations I have, and knowingly that he would never have the willpower to eat the way I do. He was brought up to love his food, and finish his plates, which caused him to be over weight his entire life. That is why as his wife I am determined to make him as healthy as possible. But with the understanding that he wouldn't be able to make a dramatic lifestyle change.
DH loves his fried chicken too! lol
~Nicole
I love my RNY! Find me on myspace myspace.com/bebe_girl209 but be sure to tell me your from OH!
Thank you I really try to be a great wife, he's a great husband!
~NicoleI love my RNY! Find me on myspace myspace.com/bebe_girl209 but be sure to tell me your from OH!
Sounds like hubby is doubly lucky! First, he had the good sense to find you and he may soon join the ranks of the happiest WLSr's going.
Yeah, walking away without finishing one's plate STILL sometimes leaves me shaking my head but I do it all the time. More to share with others and this poor sod ain't above leftovers. No ma’am!
Rock
Yeah, walking away without finishing one's plate STILL sometimes leaves me shaking my head but I do it all the time. More to share with others and this poor sod ain't above leftovers. No ma’am!
Rock
Thanks Dianna, I am taking notes on all your informative posts and will use the information in my letter to my Kaiser assigned surgeon. I need to let him know why I am no longer interested in the RNY. I sure wish that we could get a bit more tolerance on this board. I feel that I have good supportive friends here and the hurtful remarks are painful to all.
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