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PattyL
on 3/30/21 1:01 pm
Topic: RE: Vet ere.....looking for insight....10 Year Post Op

To maintain, I still have to diet hard. Less than 20 carbs a day is my life. I know I can't cope with eternal deprivation so I do give myself cheat days. Holidays and out town vacations. That way I feel like I still get to participate. And I make lists of things I want to eat. My cheat day for Easter/Passover is right around the corner and tops on my want list right now is toast and Cadbury eggs. But that could change between now and then.

I work out too. I run and walk my dogs but the only workout that has made a difference for me is HIIT(High Impact Interval Training) because it seems to boost my metabolism a bit. I would be much happier with my weight and my body if I could afford plastics. That TT is tops on my list followed by arms and face. I do have a hernia that just might pay for a big part of that TT. As of tomorrow I will have as much immunity from COVID as I am going to get(last shot 2 weeks ago) so I am going to start looking for a surgeon.

It took me almost 20 years postop to reach a normal BMI. Best guess, I didn't get the best DS. My CC is supposed to be 75cm but I have never had a single deficiency so not sure if I believe it. But if I diet hard I can control my weight now. And I couldn't before, diet or not! I was always a good dieter. I just couldn't keep the weight off.

I eat between 80 and 100 gr protein per day. Don't count fat at all. And right about 20 carbs. 30 is a bad day! Probably means I had a salad! I eat a lot of low carb wraps for sandwiches, pizza, and tacos. I really don't eat much. If I do, I gain weight really fast! My body is used to low carb.

Congratulations on being only 4 lbs away from your goal. Keep up the good work!

Janet P.
on 3/30/21 4:14 am
Topic: RE: Vet ere.....looking for insight....10 Year Post Op

Nicely done! Turning 50 for me was great and turning 60 even better (I'll be 64 in a couple of weeks). I'm 18+ years post-op.

Honestly my secret to maintenance (this morning I weighed exactly 150 pounds - my goal weight from day 1) is to eat whatever I want with a few caveats - protein first (at a minimum of 100 grams a day) and drink plenty of water (I consume a minimum of 64 ounces of uncaffinated liquid - usually crystal lite or similar). Everything else I eat in moderation. I don't deny myself anything. I've learned over the years how my body reacts to different foods and I always keep that in mind. I don't keep track of my carbs - I go by instinct and just the knowledge I've gathered in living with the DS.

P.S. I take my vitamins every day. I also take a probiotic and added fiber. I go to the doctor on a regular basis to make sure I stay healthy. I will say I've dealt with iron deficiency anemia almost since day 1 (it's under control using infusions - last one was 3 years ago) and I also have osteoporosis. Getting ready to start prolia infusions - stay tuned.

Congrats again and keep going.

Janet in Leesburg
DS 2/25/03
Hazem Elariny
-175

Esthermilius
on 3/29/21 11:52 am
Topic: RE: Oil

Mine was more then oil slicks, it was like having a menstral period only oil. It was for a week and then stopped.

thanks for responding.

twodelight
on 3/29/21 11:02 am - Atlanta, GA
Topic: RE: Oil

If you are referring to oil slicks, that has happen to me when I eat something that really fatty like ox tails or something to that effect. Or if I had a lot of red sauce.

twodelight
on 3/29/21 11:01 am - Atlanta, GA
Topic: Vet ere.....looking for insight....10 Year Post Op

Hey Everyone!

It's been a very long time since I posted and it's been 10 years going on 11 in September since my surgery. I've kept the weight off (regain and lost 20 pounds) and life is great. Now that I'm 50 and in menopause, life can be different. I think that's when I gained weight during menopause and it drove me crazy. But when I was finally finsihed, things went back to normal. That was rough. For my 50th birthday, I had a tummy tuck, and convinced my friends to do it too. I have never looked and felt better. It you are considering it, don't consider just DO IT. The look alone will change your life. I work out with a trainer and since being this age, I eat a lot cleaner (lowering my carbs) so that I can truly maintain. I'm trying to hit my magic number and I'm 4 pounds away but the struggle has been real. I eat my protein but need to increase more. Potato chips use to be my crack and Mountain Dew use to be my heroin. But I have control now and it has gotten a lot better. For my Vets 10 years out or more, what's your secret to maintenance?

califsleevin
on 3/29/21 10:02 am, edited 3/29/21 3:08 am - CA
Topic: RE: Need serious help getting insurance approval.

On your insurance question, the best place to get your answer would be to call Dr. K's office and ask to speak to his insurance coordinator. He is a lean operation, but should have someone who specializes in the billing and insurance relations. Explain your situation and questions and they should be able to tell you how reasonable your idea is. He works with patients from all over the country and I'm sure not all of them are self pay, so if there is a way to work out insurance coverage for this, that would where I would start. They would know who in NY they have dealt with in the past and what issues there are (or if it's even reasonable to try.)

Likewise, on the search for a local surgeon, call them and ask - don't just take the word of the FB crowd.

On private insurance, the more expensive it is, the more flexible it generally will be and more likely to be cooperative. The cheaper it is, the more restrictive - limited networks, greater difficulty in going outside of network, fussier on approvals, etc. An HMO, it probably won't fly but a PPO maybe, but you will pay more for an out of network doc than one who is in network.

None of this is quick or easy, so I would work this in parallel with seeking out a local surgeon who does the DS - one of them may well work with your Medicaid coverage and that might be the best of both worlds for you.

1st support group/seminar - 8/03 (has it been that long?)  

Wife's DS - 5/05 w Dr. Robert Rabkin   VSG on 5/9/11 by Dr. John Rabkin

 

Esthermilius
on 3/29/21 8:32 am
Topic: Oil

Hello friends,

I had my DS surgery October 26, 2012 and there are times when oil drips out of me uncontrollably. Has this happened to anyone here?

thanks, Esther

Janet P.
on 3/29/21 3:50 am
Topic: RE: Need serious help getting insurance approval.

You can also check with Dr. Hazem Elariny in Vienna, VA (suburb of DC). I honestly have no idea how insurance would work (sorry) but since I didn't see his name mentioned in this post, I thought I'd add it to the mix. He's a brilliant WL surgeon and he did my DS 18 years ago.

Janet in Leesburg
DS 2/25/03
Hazem Elariny
-175

califsleevin
on 3/28/21 9:59 pm - CA
Topic: RE: Need serious help getting insurance approval.

I bring up Roslin because I know that he does do the BPD/DS, and has for many years (as HollyKim suggests, don't believe what you read on FaceBook). I mention his use of RNY in a specific case to illustrate that from what I have seen, he is no one trick pony who only knows how to do one thing and that is what they recommend to everyone for every use. Most in the BPD/DS world are not fans of the RNY, as the DS generally works better - that is why they went to the cost and effort to learn how to do them. However, there situations where it is not appropriate (as is the case with any procedure,) so in those rare cases he (and most of the rest of the DS world) is perfectly capable of doing the RNY and recommending it when it is the correct thing for a particular patient. Most bariatric surgeons don't have that flexibility because they don't have as large a tool kit - they don't know how to do much else other than the RNY and maybe the VSG. I like consulting with a surgeon with a broad toolkit because they can suggest something other than their preferred procedure when appropriate without losing business. He knows the DS, as well as the SADI, RNY, VSG, and can discuss their pros and cons for your particular case without a business bias (though he would certainly have his own preferences, as we all do.) You might just learn something that you missed on Facebook. I know a lot more about the RNY than many RNY patients because I have discussed these things with the Rabkins and Dr. K who aren't afraid to discuss the weak points of the different surgeries, including the DS.

Whether you agree with his assessment of your case or not, you will probably learn something, and have more questions that you can ask other surgeons, like Dr. K, whom you may consider. What have you got to lose other than a bit of time - which is usually a good investment when considering a permanent live changing procedure. I am not trying to talk you out of the DS or into anything else, but trying to encourage you to use the resources that you have available to learn as much about all of this that you can. The number of people online that you may interface with have their opinion but generally limited knowledge on these topics (they aren't doctors, for one thing,) so I find it helpful to talk to as many who do know what they're talking about as possible. They have their opinions, too, but they are generally well informed opinions, and that carries a lot of weight (so to speak) with me; much more than the general blogosphere.

I have the highest respect for Dr. K (and he carries off a bowtie very well...) but as I mentioned above, if I were in the NYC area, I would certainly talk to Roslin, and any other local DS docs who are still active, as part of my due diligence. I may well still go with Dr. K, or Rabkin, but by talking to others who may be available to me who are similarly qualified, I will be better informed when making my final decision. One of these docs may see something in you that might give him pause about doing the DS on you - wouldn't you like to know about that before getting into it, or at least being able to discuss that point with others?

1st support group/seminar - 8/03 (has it been that long?)  

Wife's DS - 5/05 w Dr. Robert Rabkin   VSG on 5/9/11 by Dr. John Rabkin

 

hollykim
on 3/28/21 5:43 pm, edited 3/28/21 10:43 am - Nashville, TN
Revision on 03/18/15
Topic: RE: Need serious help getting insurance approval.
On March 28, 2021 at 11:59 PM Pacific Time, RealKombo wrote:

It would seem a bit strange to consult with Roslin if he doesn't do the original DS. I have heard from a number of people online that he doesn't, and that is the surgery that im looking for. Im not interested in the bypass due to excessive reports of dumping syndrome, which I do not want. The sleeve doesn't provide enough weight loss for my situation (5'9 310 lbs) and from what I read over on the facebook DS groups the modified version doesn't seem to provide the same malabsorption.

I'm willing to incur higher risks for more weight loss/keeping more weight off long term.

I would caution you that the SAFI done incorrectly can cause bile reflux which is different from acid reflux. I understand you prefer the DS.
Also , the DS has a sleeved stomach. If you have ever had any kind d of acid teflux(GERD), consider the zDS carefully.
The sleeved stomach can cause new acid reflux snd mske existing g acid reflux worse. Just FYI.

exited to add: do t believe a WORD you read on face book. Nobody on any of those groups knows what they are talking about AT ALL.

 


          

 

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