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My surgery weight was about 320 (I'm 5'3"). I was 45 when I had my surgery. It took me about 16 months to reach my goal weight (150) and this morning my weight was 149. I did have plastic surgery about 3 years post-op - I had a breast lift and a tummy tuck (TT was paid for by insurance).
Protein is personal. At the start the general rule of thumb was 30 grams of protein by 30-days post-op 60 grams by 60 days, and ultimately 90 grams by 90 days post-op. When I was in my weight loss phase and working out (I worked out anywhere from 3-4 times a week once my surgeon cleared me) I would aim for at least 125 grams of protein. Now I always exceed 100 grams of protein - my goal is always a minimum of 25 grams of protein per meal. I also snack on protein which gets more >100.
Carbs give me gas and bloating, period. Some carbs are easier to eat than others. High fiber foods also don't work for me. I try to get more complex carbs in (complex carbs are natural carbs - potatoes, veggies, etc.). I do eat simple carbs - bread, sweets, etc. No idea how many carbs I eat. Carbs are what makes me lose or gain weight. If I notice the scale creeping up, I simply cut back on the simple carbs. It has worked for me.
Make the commitment to change everything - your eating habits (don't ever say you're on a diet), how you look at food (I love food - cooking it and eating it), how food affects your body. Read labels - learn what you're eating. I tend to eat more organic foods - I shop at the local farmers market.
Janet in Leesburg
DS 2/25/03
Hazem Elariny
-175
just a minor correction - a lot of us RNY'ers don't dump, and I don't throw up any more now than I did before I had surgery. The first few weeks post-op when your pouch is finicky and you're getting used to the new way of eating - yes - but after that, I don't think frequent throwing up is very common.
What was your starting weight, if I may ask? I am seeing a trend with the 15-20 year post ops and all of you have a plethora of information to share, so forgive me if I poke for a bit more! is the standard grams of protein 100 for everyone? ow do you feel when you eat carbs?d
OK, wow, 20 years post op. I thank you for taking the time to help educate me. You are correct; I do not know a single woman who is "happy" with their weight for the most part. whether trying to lose or gain event the littlest amount.
Thank you, really. I appreciate every word
Because it works better than anything else out there and it gives you the most normal postop life. It also never quits working. When you read studies and look at results, concentrate on long term, not short term. Surgery of any kind is traumatic and most people lose weight. Pretty much guaranteed. What matters is where these people are 10 years down the road.
I will be coming up on 20 years postop pretty soon and I can tell you how I see it. The sleeve...works for some but you can't get around the fact that it is just another diet with a smaller stomach. RNY. In my opinion it is very cruel. You have to live with things like dumping/throwing up for the rest of your life. The amount of small bowel bypassed is very small and by the 2 year mark your body has adapted. This is when many patients begin the regain. LAP Band. It doesn't work. Long term results are dismal and the puking never goes away. Also cruel. I have been around the WLS community for decades and I firmly believe that restriction helps you lose weight but malabsorbtion lets you keep it off. The DS works because you get both and so much is bypassed that your body can never completely adapt.
Going back to about 2000, I worked in an office full of fat women. I was one of them. Our insurance covered WLS so 10 of us had surgery. 1 lap band and she never lost a pound. 8 RNY(easiest surgery to get). And 1 DS. That was me. Fast forward almost 20 years and I look like a normal old woman. So does ONE of the RNY people. The other 7 of the RNY women are all heavier now than when they had the surgery.
A couple years ago the successful RNY person was visiting my city and we decided to go out to lunch. I met her at a restaurant. She was looking good. Not skinny, not fat, just normal. Anyway the first thing she did was go find the restroom in case she had to throw up. At 15+ years postop she told me she still throws up several times a week. Yikes! No thanks!
I know me. I knew I needed more than just a diet to lose weight and keep it off. I could lose weight on my own but I could never keep it off. I also knew that I was very metabolically challenged and to lose weight I had to be too restrictive. I could gain weight on a regular low calorie diet. To lose weight I had to go down to 5 or 600 calories a day. So I knew I also needed malabsorbtion. Fat and diabetes both ran in my family and the DS often cures type 2. So the DS was the best choice for me. Do I wish I had picked one of the others? No. I picked the best one for me.
Yup, I still diet. I live pretty much low carb. How many women do you know who are not trying to lose weight? Probably none! I do take my supplements every day. A small handful of pills in the morning and another at night. It's a habit and I have no problems with it. I took vitamins before I had surgery. I do give myself cheat days where I eat as I please. For me, it's holidays and out of town vacations. Sometimes I have a list of things I want to eat. I know me well enough to say I can't cope with neverending deprivation. The cheat days allow me to eat right the rest of the time while still having something to look forward to!
Medical issues. I have none and take no prescription meds. Considering I am old, that really means something. Most people my age are on multiple prescription drugs. I can still run. I can still walk forever. Move a rock pile and wrangle palm trees. I am extremely healthy and I can't even remember the last time I had a cold or the flu(knock on wood). I take good care of myself and I have been lucky.
Now it is your turn to choose. Listen to your doctor and other people. BUT remember this. You are the one who has to live with the choice. They don't. And the surgeons... Take them with a grain of salt because they are trying to make money. Always follow the money! You know you better than anyone else does!
Every surgery requires a change in habits. For me it was learning about food - reading labels, understanding exactly what I was putting in my body. I had a tough surgery and was in the hospital for 3 days. I felt that because I risked my life to just have the surgery I wasn't going to screw it up and I was going to do everything in my power to make sure I was successful. It's truly a lifetime commitment (IMO).
I eat quite a bit now. My stomach is definitely stretched (obviously not to pre-op size). I feel that I eat what a "normal" person eats (maybe sometimes a little more). What keeps me at my goal weight at 17 years post-op is the malabsorption, period. In my head I track the amount of protein I eat (making sure I get a minimum of 100 grams of protein per day). Carbs are a different story. I have learned over the years how my system reacts to certain foods so I pay attention to that. I basically eat what I want (as long as I've gotten in my protein and water), but the difference is everything is in moderation. If I want ice cream, I have some - a pint will last me three-four servings. I eat salads (with added protein). The only thing I measure anymore is pasta - I weight it out before I cook it.
I also know my DS still works - if I notice the scale is going up a little, I simply cut back on carbs and the extra few pounds are gone. I had gotten as high as 165 (honestly I weigh myself every morning and I can also tell by my clothes). When I saw 165 I freaked a little and went back to basics. This morning I was 147.5 - which honestly is too low. I can always tell simply by what I ate the day before. I sometimes feel I eat constantly. I can eat breakfast at 6AM and by 9AM I'm hungry and will have something to tide me over to lunch ;). I tend to snack all day.
Janet in Leesburg
DS 2/25/03
Hazem Elariny
-175
After making this post, I have received a lot of the same feedback about this which is why I have already crossed the lap band off my short list of possibilities. Definitely would be a negative experience!
WOW, THANK YOU for sharing. I am similar and feel like i can eat way too much and out eat any one in my circle. And, that is definitely not something to brag about.
Seems like there are some that have the surgery and who don't change tend to be back where they started. Seems like a conundrum to enjoy food more so now, after surgery and still be so successful. Part of me is afraid, I guess!
There are a few I have come across that are over 15 years post-op and I appreciate you all for giving this newbie a sence of relief with asking such trivial questions
New here and curious as to why you chose this procedure over the others? Looking for positive and negative experiences.
I would never consider the lap band and hope you research that well. Too too TOO many ppl have had terrible experiences with it and many insurers are going to one bariatric surgery per lifetime.
many have developed irreversible complications from the band. It was originally designed to only stay in for 10 years , not a lifetime. Many surgeons refuse to even do them anymore.
I had a large amount of weight to lose and I didn't want to "fail". I was originally looking at the RNY because a co-worker got it (this is back in 2002) and seemed to be doing well - she lost 100 pounds. She unfortunately never changed her eating habits and ultimately gained back all her lost weight (and then some). That wasn't going to happen to me.
When I started researching and heard about the DS I knew that this was the right surgery for me. I was a "gorger" meaning I tended to eat the majority of my food at "meals" which could be 2-3 times more than the average person. But of course I also grazed. Based on that and the success of the DS long term, I made the commitment, because IMHO that's what the DS (or really any other WLS) is. Making a commitment to yourself to follow the rules to take full advantage of this new tool I was given. I did my research and I have never looked back. I was also incredibly lucky to have one of the premiere DS surgeons in the country right in my neighborhood.
I have experienced some issues over the years primarily with iron deficiency anemia (controlled with infusions) and I've developed osteoporosis (trying to find the right treatment). But I'm still at my goal weight after more than 17 years. I love food and enjoy it more now than I did pre-op.
The DS is a lifetime commitment - to eating right, to taking vitamins, to getting your labs done regularly, to staying healthy. If you're not willing to make that commitment, then the DS isn't for you.
Do your research. Make sure your surgeon is skilled at the DS. Many surgeons either don't have the skills for the DS or are reluctant to do the procedure (see paragraph above) - it's the commitment thing.
Janet in Leesburg
DS 2/25/03
Hazem Elariny
-175




