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snakedavisjr
on 3/29/20 3:50 am
Topic: Requirements for DS

Hello, I had sleeve surgery in 2011 and was doing pretty good until some major upsets in my life occurred and I fell off the rails in many ways and my eating habits went back to their old ways. I know that this is no excuse, but it is what happened in my situation. Now I am in a good place in life and things are going well and I won't allow this to happen again. My question is what do the Dr.s require to get the DS surgery? Also the insurance company? I have Cigna.

rbednar
on 3/23/20 7:52 am
Topic: RE: Dry Vitamin A?

maybe because the corona virus so they cannot produce as usual. Check on the Amazon and catch it as soon as you see, and I think you should to add more vitamin C to protect from covid-19

(deactivated member)
on 3/20/20 10:07 pm
hollykim
on 3/18/20 8:18 am - Nashville, TN
Revision on 03/18/15
Topic: RE: Doc trying to talk me out of a DS
On March 18, 2020 at 11:59 AM Pacific Time, Janet P. wrote:
On March 17, 2020 at 6:31 PM Pacific Time, ladygodiva1228 wrote:

You sound like a kid who hasn't gotten their way. Calling doctor's quacks because they don't give right in to what you want is very childish.

Your "dysfunctional public health care" has already given you TWO WLS and you appeared to have failed both of them. You want what you want and it very well could cost you your life. As others have said there are not many surgeons who perform the take down of a RNY and then do the DS. It is a very long complicated surgery.

Maybe you should look at why the first two WLS failed, because if you think you will not gain weight with the DS then you are in for a very rude awakening.

Please go back and re-read her post. She has only had one WLS (an RNY in 2005).

She does, however, have to realize that there are reasons she can't find a doctor who will give her the DS. Revising from an RNY to DS is a VERY COMPLICATED SURGERY and not the same thing as a "virgin" DS. There are only a handful of surgeons worldwide who are capable of successfully performing this surgery and like we've been talking about on this conversation is there may not be anybody in Canada who does it (there used to be a doctor years ago in Montreal, but I think he moved to CA - sorry can't remember his name).

I don't know what she means by "it has failed since 2012". Don't know what that means. I wouldn't necessarily blame the surgery, but I don't know enough about her situation. Not sure why she has not come back to the thread she started.

she probably been back to the thread but doesn't like her responses.

 


          

 

ladygodiva1228
on 3/18/20 5:29 am - Putnam, CT
Revision on 02/04/15
Topic: RE: Doc trying to talk me out of a DS
On March 18, 2020 at 11:59 AM Pacific Time, Janet P. wrote:
On March 17, 2020 at 6:31 PM Pacific Time, ladygodiva1228 wrote:

You sound like a kid who hasn't gotten their way. Calling doctor's quacks because they don't give right in to what you want is very childish.

Your "dysfunctional public health care" has already given you TWO WLS and you appeared to have failed both of them. You want what you want and it very well could cost you your life. As others have said there are not many surgeons who perform the take down of a RNY and then do the DS. It is a very long complicated surgery.

Maybe you should look at why the first two WLS failed, because if you think you will not gain weight with the DS then you are in for a very rude awakening.

Please go back and re-read her post. She has only had one WLS (an RNY in 2005).

She does, however, have to realize that there are reasons she can't find a doctor who will give her the DS. Revising from an RNY to DS is a VERY COMPLICATED SURGERY and not the same thing as a "virgin" DS. There are only a handful of surgeons worldwide who are capable of successfully performing this surgery and like we've been talking about on this conversation is there may not be anybody in Canada who does it (there used to be a doctor years ago in Montreal, but I think he moved to CA - sorry can't remember his name).

I don't know what she means by "it has failed since 2012". Don't know what that means. I wouldn't necessarily blame the surgery, but I don't know enough about her situation. Not sure why she has not come back to the thread she started.

She posted this on the Ontario forum. There is more to her story then she is letting folks know.

Dr. Sanchez Lapband 9/12/2003
hw305/revision w280/cw197/gw150

Revision from Lap Band to Bypass on 2/4/2015 by Dr. Pohl

    

White Dove
on 3/18/20 5:14 am - Warren, OH
Topic: RE: Doc trying to talk me out of a DS

I was a member here when it happened and it was useful to me. I was one of the people who was considering reversing RNY to DS. I spoke with several surgeons who told me that there was no difference in the two procedures are far as controlling diabetes.

The person who had the surgery and then died was very vocal here about how we were all fools for not reversing to DS and I remember him telling me how sorry I would be with my RNY in a few years.

Around 2008, there was a very strong group on this board who ridiculed anyone who did not have DS.

Obesity Help finally banned them from this board.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Janet P.
on 3/18/20 4:59 am
Topic: RE: Doc trying to talk me out of a DS
On March 17, 2020 at 6:31 PM Pacific Time, ladygodiva1228 wrote:

You sound like a kid who hasn't gotten their way. Calling doctor's quacks because they don't give right in to what you want is very childish.

Your "dysfunctional public health care" has already given you TWO WLS and you appeared to have failed both of them. You want what you want and it very well could cost you your life. As others have said there are not many surgeons who perform the take down of a RNY and then do the DS. It is a very long complicated surgery.

Maybe you should look at why the first two WLS failed, because if you think you will not gain weight with the DS then you are in for a very rude awakening.

Please go back and re-read her post. She has only had one WLS (an RNY in 2005).

She does, however, have to realize that there are reasons she can't find a doctor who will give her the DS. Revising from an RNY to DS is a VERY COMPLICATED SURGERY and not the same thing as a "virgin" DS. There are only a handful of surgeons worldwide who are capable of successfully performing this surgery and like we've been talking about on this conversation is there may not be anybody in Canada who does it (there used to be a doctor years ago in Montreal, but I think he moved to CA - sorry can't remember his name).

I don't know what she means by "it has failed since 2012". Don't know what that means. I wouldn't necessarily blame the surgery, but I don't know enough about her situation. Not sure why she has not come back to the thread she started.

Janet in Leesburg
DS 2/25/03
Hazem Elariny
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ladygodiva1228
on 3/17/20 11:31 am - Putnam, CT
Revision on 02/04/15
Topic: RE: Doc trying to talk me out of a DS

You sound like a kid who hasn't gotten their way. Calling doctor's quacks because they don't give right in to what you want is very childish.

Your "dysfunctional public health care" has already given you TWO WLS and you appeared to have failed both of them. You want what you want and it very well could cost you your life. As others have said there are not many surgeons who perform the take down of a RNY and then do the DS. It is a very long complicated surgery.

Maybe you should look at why the first two WLS failed, because if you think you will not gain weight with the DS then you are in for a very rude awakening.

Dr. Sanchez Lapband 9/12/2003
hw305/revision w280/cw197/gw150

Revision from Lap Band to Bypass on 2/4/2015 by Dr. Pohl

    

califsleevin
on 3/16/20 6:42 pm - CA
Topic: RE: Doc trying to talk me out of a DS

This isn't overly useful, as one can find examples of patients who have died from any of these prodedures - RNY, VSG, bands, balloons, etc., or any other surgical procedure. The basic lesson to keep in mind is that the more complex and lengthy the procedure, the more risky it tends to be - and revisions in general are more complex and tend to take longer than virgin procedures, so one must weight the risks vs. prospective benefits.

1st support group/seminar - 8/03 (has it been that long?)  

Wife's DS - 5/05 w Dr. Robert Rabkin   VSG on 5/9/11 by Dr. John Rabkin

 

califsleevin
on 3/16/20 6:38 pm - CA
Topic: RE: Doc trying to talk me out of a DS

At one time, Dr. Gagner in Montreal was doing them, but I don't know if he still does, or if he is still practicing in CA. I've seen several come through Rabkin and Keshisian who have done well, but they are a couple of the handful who are noted for being able to do the procedure.

What the OP is experiencing is not unusual, even here in the States, as most surgeons are not inclined to look favorably to procedures that they themselves don't perform, and it is rare to get one to offer a referral. One thing to watch for are those who advertise doing the DS on their practice profile or CV but don't actually perform them, instead badmouthing it and selling the prospective patient on one of the procedures that they do offer (the so-called "bait and don't switch" approach.)

When one is under the restrictions of these limited HMO or NHS type of plans, one does have to push hard to get what one wants and needs out of the system. I suspect that the best one can do without leaving the country would be a distal RNY which has a similar level of malabsorption as the DS but in an RNY configuration; I don't know if it is any better on diabetes remission than the normal proximal RNY (that would probably be your key factor in appealing to get permission for the DS revision.)

1st support group/seminar - 8/03 (has it been that long?)  

Wife's DS - 5/05 w Dr. Robert Rabkin   VSG on 5/9/11 by Dr. John Rabkin

 

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