Where's Kevin When Ya Need Him????

Where's Kevin when ya need him?? I know from personal experience what it feels like when you say something/take a stand that isn't popular and you get blasted for it. It seems they don't know what is meant by 'forgive and forget'. Some people cannot separate your opinion on something from what you know and/or can do. So why is Kevin being singled out?? Kevin is the guy people love to hate - sometimes he will make you laugh, but other times he tells you like it is - and it may not be what you want to hear, but it's the truth. My dad says, "love me, love my dawg". I say, "love me, love my wild and crazy Kevin!!" I believe that the staff needs to bring this situation to the table for re-examination. I am just curious just how much they know of Kevin. Do they know when he's serious or just shooting the crap? Enough time has passed and everyone involved has had time to cool off. Tell me what you think and how you feel....

I miss kevin and want him back here

I think that if we were talking about someone else, KP would be making fun of us. These posts about him are just going on and on and on and on. Yeah, he was a nice guy and I'm sure he helped a lot of people, but he got himself kicked off because he didn't stop saying things to make OH mad. He's still alive and if you were close to him you still know how to contact him. It's a shame this board is censored, but as Jay said before, we all know that coming in and we still participate. OH isn't losing any sleep because one smart alec (although he is a really cool guy) isn't here anymore. No ill will toward Kevin, but the way we're mourning him on here to me seems a bit much.

Wow, I just had to respond to that one. I normally don't get involved. Yes, Kevin knew the rules as we all do but what's more important is that he reached out whole heartidly to so many people and was brutally honest at times. Whether some agree or not, he is a major support for many on this board and it will never be the same without him and his humorous self. I think it's wonderful that we keep his spirit alive on this board and DO remember a great friend!! Love you Kevin!! Susan

First of all, I understand your position, and respect your thoughts. Not too many people can do that nowadays. I am drawing from a similar expereince. I took an position on a subject that didn't agree with most of the people in a group that I belong to. My own opinion had NOTHING to do with the job I was in or how I did my job. When it came up for renewal, I was shunned. That lasted for all of two years, but when it came up again, they asked me - and I was the last one they asked because no one else wanted it. I accepted (with provisions) but right before I was to start this position, someone wrote me a nasty email about this. I couldn't take it. I was hoping that people could see that my opinions were just that - and had nothing to to with my job or how I performed it. They have lost the best person to do the job - all because they could not forget one opinion I had. So yes, Kevin has his own opinions, and he is entitled to them, however, I feel that someone is looking at one item and not looking at the WHOLE picture. OH needs people like Kevin - people that make you think!! Besides, I can be a just as much of a smart ass as Kevin, but people wouldn't know it!!

Hey Rhonda, I think we need to separate the two issues here..... I know where you're coming from about opinions and being able to express them without them being held against you. To me, that's what message boards are all about. If I didn't get to read everyone's opinions here every day, that would stink! I guess my real issue (if you could even call it an issue) is how much time we spend talking about KP being gone. There are a lot of newbies on this board who don't have a clue who he is and the fact that OH won't just call him up and ask him to come back because we gripe about it all the time. I think we should "channel" KP and try to help others like he did. Some days on here it feels like idol worship (no, not American Idol!). Like I said, he's a great guy who knew exactly what he was doing when he got tossed out of here. This site was KP's playground and he got to do and say anything he wanted for a long time but now that run is over. I'm glad you posted.....and sorry if anyone is going to take this the wrong way. But we devote more time to KP than anything else on here (besides protein shakes!). Take care, Brenda

People have different views on what happens here at OH and why some get banned and others do not. Just recently my posts were being monitored and removed because my veiws were not, well lets say "popular". What happens is when you are warned you are expected to "back down" and "be nice" and those who do stay and those who don't get TOSsed(they will say you violated the TOS agreement). That is the bottom line. 1Holly W

Holly, that's exactly what I'm talking about!! I got bashed royally, and given the 'evil eye'!! They made me feel so bad that I am 'shelled shocked' to the point of not even attending any meetings! This has been going on for almost a year now. While they (a few old bitties) can't throw me out for voicing my opinion, they may find something that they could use against me to get me removed. Please don't let this happen to Kevin! As I said, I was the best person for the job and people knew it. Kevin is the best (ad I'm sure there are others) for getting advice from. How long is it gonna take for someone to realize that hey, he made a stupid mistake, he's paid hi dues, now let's get him back so everyone can be happy!

Kevin has been banned and the powers that be most likely will not be reactivating his membership(would they really admit they were wrong?) and even if they did I doubt he would post, I know I wouldn't. There are many many others like him or that feel like us(last count I think was 270? ) Holly W

Oh my gosh Holly, lol....What in the world could you have said to tick off OH????? That is too funny. You are probably one of the nicest people I know. It suprises me that I haven't been monitored, I usually try to be up beat and positive, but when I feel strong about an issue I don't hold back, But like I always say...."It's Not what you say....It's How you say it". I learned that many many years ago. I use to be a very blunt person. I would shoot from the hip. So to speak. It was the way I was brought up. ...Hey what do you expect, I am Italian....LOL. Anyway, I hurt my best friends feelings being blunt. I still beat myself up for it today, that I could hurt someone that I cared about. After that I understood the phase I mentioned above, and took it on as my montra. We all see things differently, and hold value in things and people differently. I do agree it's time to let things go, we have to deal with the matters at hand. Take care Miss Holly!!!