Maybe this makes sense,,
My boy Jon posted a sound bit of info a few posts down.
Might I suggest to users of the board who are looking for advice or even just posting a "happening" in your journey to remember that on the other end of the keyboard is a person or persons that cannot hear your voice or inflection in your question and their reply may be of any varying degree of bluntness or might be very warm and nurturing.
Or it may be from me and make no sense at all.
Either way you are going to get a reply and there is a big chance you may not like it.
kp
"Go sell crazy somewhere else; we're all stocked up here."
The LAST thing I wanted to do was ruffle anyone's feathers on this one. The only thing I was trying to suggest was when I read a "newbie" post something bizzare like "I'm 3 weeks post-op and I ate 4 slices of pizzza" and want feedback, I am compelled to respond in a negative way. I assume everyone who is in a program is given the basics of what to do the first few months out. Perhaps I am assuming something that is not reality. I had a very specific menu to follow for the first month post-op. Maybe some programs are not giving patients as much adivce as they should. It is still overwhelming to me to see people as clueless as they are about what they should be eating as an early post-op patient. I shouldn't be judegmental. I only want to see people succeed. I had a VERY specific menu to follow for the first few months and feel that if we are going to such extremes to re-route our insides and take that "leap off the cliff" regarding the risks of the surgery, I would expect people to follow "the program". Perhaps some people are not getting the early post-op education I received. The LAST thing I wanted to do was create any drama. I guess I should have just kept my keyboard shut. Oh well. I was just trying to help.
Jon
how can you say something like: "The bottom line is this - if you are not successful with WLS, it is your own damn fault because you did'nt take advantage of the gifts of the tool you were given" and not expect a dramatic discussion?
"Bottom-lining" everyone who has failed to reach what they consider to be success as being at fault and to blame is pretty dramatic.
The good thing is it's led to discussion. That's what's great about the internet, people can freely exchange ideas and agree or disagree. Drama in that context is something i desire and enjoy. It's a great thing in my opinion. I wouldn't see it as any reason to keep your mouth shut. I wish more people were as vocal and willing to put themselves out there as you were in that post. It's those kinds of threads that make this place interesting to me.
Of course, i'm a freak and not like some of those OH'ers who want to come here and be patted on the back and have everyone agree with everything they think and never see any challenges to generally accepted ideas. I like people who are willing to go out on a limb and offer "dramatic" ideas.
"Bottom-lining" everyone who has failed to reach what they consider to be success as being at fault and to blame is pretty dramatic.
The good thing is it's led to discussion. That's what's great about the internet, people can freely exchange ideas and agree or disagree. Drama in that context is something i desire and enjoy. It's a great thing in my opinion. I wouldn't see it as any reason to keep your mouth shut. I wish more people were as vocal and willing to put themselves out there as you were in that post. It's those kinds of threads that make this place interesting to me.
Of course, i'm a freak and not like some of those OH'ers who want to come here and be patted on the back and have everyone agree with everything they think and never see any challenges to generally accepted ideas. I like people who are willing to go out on a limb and offer "dramatic" ideas.
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