DEBATE OVER SUSAN MARIA'S RANT AGAINST "OTHER" BOARDS

THE FOLLOWING IS OFF THE OCTOBER 2005 SURGERY DATE BOARD ... IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE WHOLE THREAD, YOU CAN FIND IT THERE ... MORE ARE SURE TO ANSWER ... Posted at 6:24 AM PST on 03/31/2006 SusanMaria Stay Away! Hi everyone. Check this out, this is what she thinks of us here. http://store.bariatriceating.com/thismonthsrant.html I wont be ordering from bariatric eating any more! Will you? LisaMarie 9 replies have been posted for this message. ********** Posted at 11:55 AM PST on 03/31/2006 This is a reply to a post by LisaMarie . RE: SusanMaria Stay Away! I ADMIRE HER FOR STICKING TO HER GUNS ON BEING FAITHFUL TO "THE RULES". LIKE SHE SAID, EATING WRONG SHOULD NOT BE APPLAUDED & I AGREE. BUT, THIS IS A HUGE CHANGE; BIGGER THAN ANYONE TOLD US; BIGGER THAN ANY OF US REALIZED ... I'M HAVING TO RE-EVALUATE EVERY PART OF MY LIFE TO MAKE ALL THE PIECES FIT & THEY ARE KINDA JUMBLED UP RIGHT NOW. I'M DOING GREAT, GOOD, OK, BAD & REALLY BAD IN DIFFERENT AREAS ... LIKE I IMAGINE WE ALL ARE ... BUT EACH DAY IS A CLEAN SLATE & I FOCUS ON MAKING BETTER & BETTER CHOICES UNTIL THIS ALL SMOOTHS OUT. WHERE SHE WENT WRONG ... I THINK THAT MAKING ENEMIES OUT OF DIFFERENT SUPPORT GROUPS OR PITTING ONE SUPPORT GROUP AGAINST ANOTHER IS NOT PRODUCTIVE. WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT & MAKING SOME OF US THE "BAD GUYS" WHILE ONLY HER GROUP IS THE "GOOD GUYS" IS A BIT SELF-SERVING. SHE COULD HAVE MADE SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS JUST BY SPEAKING GENERICALLY WITH OUT SLAMMING "US" & PRAISING "THEM". IT'S LIKE SOME DAYS I AM "THE SUPPORTER" & SOME DAYS I AM "THE SUPPORTEE". THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME GOOD ONE DAY & BAD THE NEXT ... JUST HUMAN. I'VE BEEN BOUNCING OFF THE WALL LATELY ON THE EMOTIONAL ROLLER COASTER ... I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE HORMONE THING THAT GOES ALONG WITH OUR RAPID WEIGHT LOSS. NICK & I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING IF I SHOULD GO BACK ON ANTI-DEPRESSANTS TO HELP ME THROUGH THIS TIME. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF MEDICATION HELPS THIS KIND OF MOOD SWINGS? I'VE ALSO BEEN ON THE STALL/SLOW-DOWN FROM HELL FOR 10 WEEKS & NOTHING IS BREAKING IT. DOESN'T MAKE FOR THRILLING DAYS TO SAY THE LEAST. IF I DIDN'T HAVE Y'ALL TO LIFT ME UP, DUST ME OFF & PAT ME ON THE HEAD OR KICK ME IN THE PANTS ... I WONDER IF I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WEATHER THIS STORM BECAUSE AFTER ALL THE HOOP-LAH OF "YOU'LL LOSE 100 #s IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE", I FIND THAT I'M A "SLOW LOSER" ... A TOUGH, LONELY PLACE TO BE WHEN I'M TRYING SO HARD, FOLLOWING "THE RULES" & NOT CHEATING. YES, THE REALITY IS THAT I HAVE HUNDREDS OF THINGS TO BE THANKFUL FOR FROM THIS SURGERY & I DEFINITELY AM AS IS MY DEAR HUSBAND & LOVING FAMILY ... BUT, BEING IN A TOUGH PLACE RIGHT NOW, IT'S A LIFE-SAVER TO HAVE FRIENDS ON THIS BOARD, ON MY SC BOARD & THROUGH MY LOWCOUNTRY BYPASS BUDDIES WEEKLY SUPPORT GROUP TO KNOW WHEN TO BE SWEET & WHEN TO BE TOUGH ... & SOMETIMES WHEN TO JUST LISTEN OR TELL ME SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS WHERE I'M COMING FROM. I THINK IT TAKES BOTH SWEETNESS & TOUGHNESS TO BE A GOOD SUPPORT BOARD & I BELIEVE WE HAVE A GREAT SUPPORT BOARD BECAUSE WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE HERE!!! GOD BLESS Y'ALL & THANK YOU DAWN & NICK ********** Posted at 12:02 PM PST on 03/31/2006 This is a reply to a post by LisaMarie . RE: SusanMaria Stay Away! AFTER READING & THINKING ABOUT THIS, MS LISA MARIE, I'M GONNA BORROW YOUR POST & POST IT & MY REPLY ON THE SC BOARD SO THEY & MY LCBBuddies KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THEM. THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. IT'S SO DISAPPOINTING TO FIND A "LEADER" WHO IS DEMONIZING US ... BEING OUTSPOKEN IS ONE THING, BUT WE ALL HAVE SUCH A HARD ROAD & TO HAVE ENEMIES FROM WITHIN OUR OWN GROUP ATTACK US SURE DOESN'T HELP. GOD BLESS YOU DAWN & NICK ********** Posted at 11:54 AM PST on 03/31/2006 This is a reply to a post by LisaMarie . RE: SusanMaria Stay Away! Well, I'm ready for a flaming.....and I hope I can show my face on this board again without getting tarred & feathered, because I like you guys! That being said, I didn't find her rant insulting at all. I've been to her messgage board a few times, and although I didn't care for "absolutes"....saying that EVERYONE on her message board behaved "good", while everyone on OTHER message boards behaved "bad"....I do think she has a point. Maybe she was a little blunt about it, but that seems to be her way.....if you read her other rants, she always says it like she means it....whether it's politically correct or not. I think the whole point of the thing was to give a wake up call.....we have to take our vitamins, get in our protein & stop eating all the crap that made us fat. I too am tired of hearing people complain about not loosing weight when they're not following post-op protocol like they should be. Flame away....lol.....but I will still be doing pleanty of shopping with Susan Maria Rachel ********** Posted at 11:55 AM PST on 03/31/2006 This is a reply to a post by LisaMarie . RE: SusanMaria Stay Away! I ADMIRE HER FOR STICKING TO HER GUNS ON BEING FAITHFUL TO "THE RULES". LIKE SHE SAID, EATING WRONG SHOULD NOT BE APPLAUDED & I AGREE. BUT, THIS IS A HUGE CHANGE; BIGGER THAN ANYONE TOLD US; BIGGER THAN ANY OF US REALIZED ... I'M HAVING TO RE-EVALUATE EVERY PART OF MY LIFE TO MAKE ALL THE PIECES FIT & THEY ARE KINDA JUMBLED UP RIGHT NOW. I'M DOING GREAT, GOOD, OK, BAD & REALLY BAD IN DIFFERENT AREAS ... LIKE I IMAGINE WE ALL ARE ... BUT EACH DAY IS A CLEAN SLATE & I FOCUS ON MAKING BETTER & BETTER CHOICES UNTIL THIS ALL SMOOTHS OUT. WHERE SHE WENT WRONG ... I THINK THAT MAKING ENEMIES OUT OF DIFFERENT SUPPORT GROUPS OR PITTING ONE SUPPORT GROUP AGAINST ANOTHER IS NOT PRODUCTIVE. WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT & MAKING SOME OF US THE "BAD GUYS" WHILE ONLY HER GROUP IS THE "GOOD GUYS" IS A BIT SELF-SERVING. SHE COULD HAVE MADE SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS JUST BY SPEAKING GENERICALLY WITH OUT SLAMMING "US" & PRAISING "THEM". IT'S LIKE SOME DAYS I AM "THE SUPPORTER" & SOME DAYS I AM "THE SUPPORTEE". THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME GOOD ONE DAY & BAD THE NEXT ... JUST HUMAN. I'VE BEEN BOUNCING OFF THE WALL LATELY ON THE EMOTIONAL ROLLER COASTER ... I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE HORMONE THING THAT GOES ALONG WITH OUR RAPID WEIGHT LOSS. NICK & I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING IF I SHOULD GO BACK ON ANTI-DEPRESSANTS TO HELP ME THROUGH THIS TIME. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF MEDICATION HELPS THIS KIND OF MOOD SWINGS? I'VE ALSO BEEN ON THE STALL/SLOW-DOWN FROM HELL FOR 10 WEEKS & NOTHING IS BREAKING IT. DOESN'T MAKE FOR THRILLING DAYS TO SAY THE LEAST. IF I DIDN'T HAVE Y'ALL TO LIFT ME UP, DUST ME OFF & PAT ME ON THE HEAD OR KICK ME IN THE PANTS ... I WONDER IF I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WEATHER THIS STORM BECAUSE AFTER ALL THE HOOP-LAH OF "YOU'LL LOSE 100 #s IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE", I FIND THAT I'M A "SLOW LOSER" ... A TOUGH, LONELY PLACE TO BE WHEN I'M TRYING SO HARD, FOLLOWING "THE RULES" & NOT CHEATING. YES, THE REALITY IS THAT I HAVE HUNDREDS OF THINGS TO BE THANKFUL FOR FROM THIS SURGERY & I DEFINITELY AM AS IS MY DEAR HUSBAND & LOVING FAMILY ... BUT, BEING IN A TOUGH PLACE RIGHT NOW, IT'S A LIFE-SAVER TO HAVE FRIENDS ON THIS BOARD, ON MY SC BOARD & THROUGH MY LOWCOUNTRY BYPASS BUDDIES WEEKLY SUPPORT GROUP TO KNOW WHEN TO BE SWEET & WHEN TO BE TOUGH ... & SOMETIMES WHEN TO JUST LISTEN OR TELL ME SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS WHERE I'M COMING FROM. I THINK IT TAKES BOTH SWEETNESS & TOUGHNESS TO BE A GOOD SUPPORT BOARD & I BELIEVE WE HAVE A GREAT SUPPORT BOARD BECAUSE WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE HERE!!! GOD BLESS Y'ALL & THANK YOU DAWN & NICK

Wow, I don't even know who she is, but she sounds like an arrogant know it all type of person and just by the nature of how she chose to convey her message (bla bla bla) she lost her effectiveness.

Funny you mention.......I read that back then and was kinda taken aback. I have actually led so many, many, many people to her website that I have now myself found all the products that I USED to order from her on other websites for cheaper. Its kinda a pain to have to shop around, where her website is one place, but I am saving money, and it irritated me she just really bashed people. For meds, I did take wellbutrin a few times when I had lots of estrogen in my bloodstream from the rapid weightloss. It helped me quickly, and I did not stay on it the whole time, just long enough to get me over the hump. Take care, and I agree with you Dawn Love you, Deb

I AGREE, MS DEB ... I ACTUALLY TOOK HER WEBSITE INFO OFF OF MY PROFILE & I'M BUYING PRODUCTS FROM OTHER VENDORS AS WELL; SHE'S NOT THE ONLY BUSINESS OFFERING PROTEIN & SF PRODUCTS ... NOT JUST BECAUSE OF HER LATEST & MOST OFFENSIVE "RANT" BUT BECAUSE SHE JUST ADDED A "GENTLEMAN" (I'M USING THAT TERM LOOSELY) AS A WRITER ON HER WEBSITE FOCUSING ON HIS WLS JOURNEY. AFTER READING HIS ARTICLE, I WAS VERY DISTRUBED ... NOT ONLY WAS HE ARROGANT & SELF ABSORBED, BUT VERY DISRESPECTFUL TOWARDS HIS WIFE WHO STOOD BY HIM THROUGHOUT ALL HIS STRUGGLES ... &, HE WAS COMPLETELY DISRESPECTFUL WHEN MENTIONING HIS MOTHER ... STRESSING THAT HE WAS OLD ENOUGH TO USE THE "F---" WORD EVEN IF IT BOTHERED HIS MOTHER. HIS LANGUAGE WAS FROM THE GUTTER & I FOUND THIS OFFENSIVE, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MALE POPULATION OF GASTRIC BYPASS PATIENTS. I, FOR ONE, AM SICK & TIRED OF THIS LOW-LIFE, GUTTER ATTITUDE WE ARE SLAMMED WITH ... IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE IN BUSINESS IF THEY WANT ME AS A CUSTOMER. SO, AS CONVENIENT AS IT WAS TO SHOP FROM HER WEBSITE, I'VE FOUND OTHER PLACES FOR MY FOOD NEEDS. GOD BLESS YOU DAWN & NICK