Denial: It ain't just a river in Egypt

You seriously need to get a life.

MM

 Diana --

While I appreciate any new information on my WLS, I am puzzled why you used the title you did? It seems unnecessarily inflammatory? 

I am sure you agree that everyone will choose the surgery that is best for them, based on the factors they feel are most important. There is no 'right' or 'wrong' in that decision -- because it is based on personal factors. 

I think the point made by Michelle and others here -- that the statistics shown represent an older procedure (with the larger bougie) -- is valid. We know that the larger bougies left more of the stretchy part of the stomach, allowing for more stretching to occur farther out. I think it is possible that statistics based on the 38-32 bougie will show different results. Do you have research that suggests differently? I would be glad to read it, if you do!

Any procedure can be perfected over time, and tweaked to become safer and more effective. I hope they continue to improve ALL the WLS!

I am glad you are happy with your DS, and I understand your passion for it. I know at your heart, you want to help everyone make an informed decision about their WLS. It might be more helpful, though, to present the information impartially and without a 'in your face' presentation. I think more people would be willing to listen in that case. 

Even with the information in the study, I would argue that it is too early to give up on the VSG for any population, especially considering the changes in the procedure. Now, if someone wanted to go for the almost absolutely sure thing, they may want to chose the DS -- but, they also have to consider if the potential side effects that they MIGHT have to deal with are worth it to them. Although the VSG and DS share some potential side effects, I am sure you would agree that because the DS involves cutting into the intestines there will be additional factors to consider. 

To the other poster who stated "if that is good enough for you, go for it" -- while the tone of your post seemed inflammatory, and makes some assumptions that are not necessarily accurate (after all , quite a few on this board with higher BMI's have made goal), we do each have to make our decision based on what we are willing to accept. For some, that means they will NEVER get any type of surgery. For some, it means the DS. For some it means the VSG. Just because I chose the VSG does not mean I will not reach goal, or that I will not maintain at goal, or that I feel the need to disparage anyone for choosing the DS! :) The VSG is right for me, but sometimes I envy those who have chosen the DS, for various reasons. It is possible that some who have chosen the DS might envy those of us with the VSG at times (it could happen!).

Kimberly

Well worded Kimberly !   Thanks !!!

Oh my heavens......such blatant disrespect for peoples choices is being shown here. 

I say, make the best choice for you, with all the tools you can find to make it. 

Live life, be happy, be healthy.  That is all each of us can try to do.  That is the reason for my WLS choices.

I started looking at the band, the DS and the VSG.  I am chosing the VSG.....just my choice.  Cheers to those that made theirs as well, whatever it was or will be.

Happy Shrinking to everyone!!

Jane

Amen, Jane!  I just had lunch with a group of RNY'ers and I was the only Sleevster, but amazingly, we got along well and respected each other's choices!

First off why come over here & start something that truly didn't need to be started. WLS is a tool for weight loss. Do you agree with this statement?  It's a tool to get to a healthy weight. But in your signature it says,

"I eat 3000+ calories/day, absorb less than half of that (high protein, high fat) and I'm still losing weight very slowly.  You can't beat that with a stick!"

Eating 3000+ calories & a HIGH FAT diet doesn't seem too healthy to me. I would beat that with a stick because I want to be healthy not just skinny.

I am not trying to say anything bad about your surgery chose because obviously you look great and it worked for you. But if you took the time to look through the people that had VSG surgery you would see there are a lot of success stories. A lot of people that changed their lives to become healthy and happy. Please don't come over here to try and start an argument because we all are here for support and information not to feel belittled or looked down upon. I don't care if somebody had lap band, VSG, RNY, DS etc...I support their decision-- because it's THEIR DECISION. We're all going through a major surgery & a huge life decision-- Don't be a bully.

P.s. You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar

FYI--"3,000+ calories and high fat" is not the same for a DSer as a VSGer or member of the non-WLS population, due to the malabsorption. It may not seem healthy to you, but it is to most veteran DSers.

I am only a year out and probably eat about 1500-2000 calories a day, but I have no idea, as I do not count them. I watch my protein, take my vitamins and that's it. I eat lots of red meat, bacon, cheese and some desserts (if it hits me right). My diabetes is gone, my cholesterol is freakishly low and my labs are awesome! Oh, and I have lost almost 180 pounds.

I'm not sure Diana or anyone is trying to catch flies. Trying to educate with stats is about the best we can do. Flycatching seems like an unnecessary activity--although it probably IS good cardio. Hmmm...cardio.

And I actually do not think of the DS as a "tool to get to a healthy weight." It was a surgery to change my metabolism, to get it running properly again. The smaller stomach part, that was just for the weight loss. I don't feel that I have to "work a tool."

Best of luck on your journey!
 
Nicolle

Dear LiveBlond ...

Since you've only been a member here for a few months, I will forgive you your ignorance.

DSers NEED to eat high fat.  The malabsorption which is designed to give the best EWL and lowest long term regain REQUIRES DSers to eat high fat to absorb some vitamins.   

Also, the malabsorption of fat means that fatty foods are NOT absorbed, so it is as if they were never consumed.  Just about every DSer has PERFECT cholesterol.

So yeah, DSers ARE heathly AND skinny, eating a delicious (remember fat gives flavor to food) diet.

Of course wls is a personal decision.  It's just important to get ACCURATE facts before making a decision and MISINFORMATION abounds on these boards and from medical professionals who are not familiar with anything other than the procedures they do in their practice/facility.

I don't want to associate myself with negativity & arrogance-- I am done with this thread.

As a relative newcomer to this forum & I'm amazed at this thread. Aside from the limited scientific nature of the discussion I'm puzzled about why someone would be so dismissive of peoples choices, especially where those people are happy with the outcome.

Very glad the forum has a block button. btw LiveBlondeOrDieTryin my date is 4 days after yours in march. Wishing you well.