A suggestion: Stop responding to the posts that say negative things about VSG. Let them...
I guess I just don't get the hostility thing. I'm pretty sure that is not the way to win friends and influence people (as they say).
Am I jealous of eating 3000 calories? Maybe, if those are oatmeal cookie calories! LOL :) But, I do not feel deprived at all with the VSG. There isn't anything I cannot eat, if I want it. True, I have to make different choices than someone with a DS might, but I knew that going in. What I eat now (4 months out) is what I see naturally thin people eating -- in selection and portion size. That's okay by me. I have moments of DS envy, who wouldn't? :) Nothing wrong with that -- it does not mean the VSG is the wrong surgery for me. :)
It seems there is misunderstanding on both sides of this argument. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be much understanding or respect going on.
K
Am I jealous of eating 3000 calories? Maybe, if those are oatmeal cookie calories! LOL :) But, I do not feel deprived at all with the VSG. There isn't anything I cannot eat, if I want it. True, I have to make different choices than someone with a DS might, but I knew that going in. What I eat now (4 months out) is what I see naturally thin people eating -- in selection and portion size. That's okay by me. I have moments of DS envy, who wouldn't? :) Nothing wrong with that -- it does not mean the VSG is the wrong surgery for me. :)
It seems there is misunderstanding on both sides of this argument. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be much understanding or respect going on.
K
I'm not jealous. Even at my worst when it came to weight and food, I couldn't eat that much.
As for not responding, I will continue to correct misinformation and point out faulty logic as long as it gets posted. Sorry if that upsets some of you, but I think it's important.
As for that person looking into the VSG who decided to get a DS, good for them! I will give them the respect of assuming they looked at the facts and made a decision that made sense to them and not assume they were an idiot who couldn't read studies because they didn't pick the surgery that I picked.
As for not responding, I will continue to correct misinformation and point out faulty logic as long as it gets posted. Sorry if that upsets some of you, but I think it's important.
As for that person looking into the VSG who decided to get a DS, good for them! I will give them the respect of assuming they looked at the facts and made a decision that made sense to them and not assume they were an idiot who couldn't read studies because they didn't pick the surgery that I picked.
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On February 8, 2009 at 7:24 PM Pacific Time, cimmaryn wrote:
I guess I just don't get the hostility thing. I'm pretty sure that is not the way to win friends and influence people (as they say). Am I jealous of eating 3000 calories? Maybe, if those are oatmeal cookie calories! LOL :) But, I do not feel deprived at all with the VSG. There isn't anything I cannot eat, if I want it. True, I have to make different choices than someone with a DS might, but I knew that going in. What I eat now (4 months out) is what I see naturally thin people eating -- in selection and portion size. That's okay by me. I have moments of DS envy, who wouldn't? :) Nothing wrong with that -- it does not mean the VSG is the wrong surgery for me. :)
It seems there is misunderstanding on both sides of this argument. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be much understanding or respect going on.
K
I don't think there is any reason to be jealous. Why don't you ask an HONEST DSer what happens if they eat a bag of oatmeal cookies after DS.
I'll give you a hint... think about cows and global warming. heh...
Honestly, I think I'd rather be fat than have DS. Some thigs in life you pay dearly for, DS can be one of them.
On February 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM Pacific Time, TeriJ wrote:
There are some that can probably handle it ok. But others can't. And there's no way to tell which group you'll be in before surgery.I'm a believer in the fact that you won't really know which surgery type is right for you until you try it. Banding, some experience band intolerance and nothing in the world fixes that short of removing it. Some honestly believe they will do well with restrictive alone and believe they can give up sugar if they are full on proteins/veggies. Until you try, you don't really know if you can do it or not.
Quantity eaters may not do so well with bypass as they could stretch out their pouch and restriction is gone forever. DS and RNY require supplements and labs for life, that would not be for me. I have a hard time remembering to take them and I don't tolerate calcium. I'd have serious problems with either.
There is a part of WLS that requires trying it before you know if it is for you. Sad to say, I know.
I don't post very often, but read every day and just could not pass this thread again. I truly don't understand the hostility and mean spiritedness that is going on. We all suffer from a condition that caused us to be obese and unable to loose the weight. And we each had to make a decision as to how to go about loosing the weight. What some who have posted don't realize that there are a few of us out there where VSG was our ONLY option. I have Crohn's disease (something that should make me thin and sickly not FAT). For years I was told that any WLS would be out of the question for me because of the re-routing of the intestines. I watched as my friends, and family had the RNY and DS surgeries. I watched as they all got smaller. I cried each time another friend or family member told me that they were getting the chance that I knew was not ever going to be offered to me. Each time I would ask that friend or family member "Ask your doctor what he would do for a fat Crohn's patient." Each time the answer was "Crohn's patients should not be fat and we will not touch them at any cost."
Obviously, I felt as if I was never going to get a chance at that elusive brass ring. Then one day, a friend's doctor said that he "knew he could help me." He told me of the VSG and said that I would be a candidate for that if my other doctors got on board.
Well, obviously I had the surgery and am doing well. But with all this bickering, I am beginning to feel like a failure once again. All I am hearing is that the VSG will fail and I will once again be the SMO person looking at life through a window. I need to hear that I will succeed, not fail. I need support. Please stop all the fighting and lets get back to the support we ALL need. We each have made choices based on different reasons. Options are not always open. Please consider the feelings of the people who just need support not fighting.
Bernice
Obviously, I felt as if I was never going to get a chance at that elusive brass ring. Then one day, a friend's doctor said that he "knew he could help me." He told me of the VSG and said that I would be a candidate for that if my other doctors got on board.
Well, obviously I had the surgery and am doing well. But with all this bickering, I am beginning to feel like a failure once again. All I am hearing is that the VSG will fail and I will once again be the SMO person looking at life through a window. I need to hear that I will succeed, not fail. I need support. Please stop all the fighting and lets get back to the support we ALL need. We each have made choices based on different reasons. Options are not always open. Please consider the feelings of the people who just need support not fighting.
Bernice
Bernice I'm so glad you were able to get WLS. It is so hard to see other people getting the help that you couldn't. Thank god for the VSG. It was my only choice as well. Those few Weird DS people who post over here are fanatical, mean spirited and childi****hink its just awful how they stir everyone up. They seem to thrive on the negativity.