Vitamin Schedule--what's yours?

Kevin H.
on 4/15/12 6:59 am - Baltimore, MD
VSG on 02/06/12
On April 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM Pacific Time, Mom78 wrote:
Mine is similar, but don't have to go with a certain company. Its a nutritional fact you can't absorb more than 500 of calcium at a time. We were told to wait 2 weeks until we started. I don't take iron, had a hysterectomy.

But, my doc and NUT saids ok to take the multi at once.

Morning
I take two chewable centrums or flinstones
1 b21 sub 1000

Mid morning
2 chewable calciums from baratric advantage (I'll admit tried every calcium I could find, I'm just now being consistant)

Midafternoon
2 chewable calciums from baratric advantage

Dinner
PPI 30 minutes before dinner
2 chewable calciums from baratric advantage
1-2 Docusate
Its a nutritional fact you can't absorb more than 500 of calcium at a time."

Yes I remember them talking about this in class in fact.  But that was the case with "regular" calcium pills that your body has to break down and metabolize.  

T
hey pointed out that because this was an isotonic solution it was rapidly and easily absorbed by your body and that you were not limited to the 500 mg limit at a time.  That's why they directed us to take 3 capfuls and place it in the glass.

I'm anxious to see what the reply is now.

 
  

MizzEvil
on 4/15/12 7:09 am - Phoenix, AZ
VSG on 03/16/12
 I would be interested in hearing too since the company hasn't responded. I'm going to ask the docs at my work as well because it seems too good to be true - since the company's FAQ & labeling doesn't match the once daily method.
    
                
Kevin H.
on 4/15/12 7:13 am - Baltimore, MD
VSG on 02/06/12
 Wanted to put this further down towards the end of the post but this was the reply:

Hey Kevin you are right.  :)  no other product can absorb the way this does.  Normally 250-600 mg max is absorbed according to the research of other products needing to be digested.  This product goes straight to the cell which is why less is needed.  I personally followed full metabolic/ vitamin panel labs for over 4 years on this product in hundreds of pts to make sure things came back correct.  We look at D storage as well as serum calcium, as the body de-mineralizes (breaks down) bone to make serum calcium levels appear normal which is why PTH and D levels is what tells me its working.  When pts were given 2 caps calcium in am and 2 in pm as well as 1 cap MVI in am and 1 in pm B12 and B6 levels skyrocketed in one month in all pts.  Myself and 3 other Rd's at the time using this product backed down the dosages and all pts in those first 3 practices have had no issues since.  The product is now wide spread used in the bariatric field.  It is backed by the AMA and has massive research behind it.  It goes through rigorous testing to ensure quality.  They are welcome to see all of it listed under science on the website.  It even made it to Dr Oz a few years back.  It was introduced several years ago at the ADA as well.  Other products have to be digested and some is lost in digestion which is why dosages of those must be higher to compensate for losses.  I myself take 3 caps a day in am + 1 MVI in AM for osteopenia Dx and my Dexa scan results increased 2 standard deviations on my last test this past 2011.  I find obesity help chat forums to be full of well under informed patients.  It seems to be made up of many pts trying to educate other pts who do not have credentials to do so.  Don't let it get to you.  :)

 
  

MizzEvil
on 4/15/12 7:20 am - Phoenix, AZ
VSG on 03/16/12
 LoL! Then I don't get why the company doesn't market this if it works as a once daily 3 capful theory. To be honest, I still don't buy it until I hear back from the company themselves or I see the data that supports this. 
    
                
Kevin H.
on 4/15/12 7:56 am, edited 4/15/12 7:59 am - Baltimore, MD
VSG on 02/06/12
 I guess I'm confused why 2 people that are both taking the same product are arguing about its effectiveness?  Why are you taking it if you have such doubts about it?  It seems like we should be on the same team here "so to speak" then on opposite sides of the debate?  I know people like what they like and if they are a fan of their "pills" and taking 100 of them a day I could see them debating about this, but you take them too! 

There are thousands of drugs out there and each market their product that's true, however a doctor has a license to "practice medicine" and if they tell me to take it 3 times a day then I am confident in my surgeon and his nutritionist that they have enough scientific evidence to know that this is the best and most effective vitamin for me to be taking.  A doctor can use the pharmaceutical companies guidelines but practicing medicine allows you to alter that a bit if you see fit.  

I am no scientist and just a 18+ year veteran paramedic in Baltimore City Fire Department but I know that IV drug dosages are different then pill form because its isotonic.  The fact that you don't need as much calcium because its rapidly absorbed into the cells makes perfect sense to me.  Feel free to hear back from the drug company but in the mean time I'll just continue doing what they told me to do.  

 
  

MizzEvil
on 4/15/12 8:14 am - Phoenix, AZ
VSG on 03/16/12
 I'm not arguing anything. If you feel comfortable taking it - do it. My problem is the fact that the company in question doesn't advertise it and their information on the website is inline with all the other absorption info out there. Your nutritionist isn't mine & you know her - if you feel comfortable with her info, awesome. But reading her advice & following it would be no different than me changing my food phases to someone else's because they said so. As a young female - I am worried about my bone health and overall health. I work in the medical field as well, but I don't know how this works. I'm basing it off of all the stuff I've been told by my providers, schooling and the company's website.
    
                
MizzEvil
on 4/15/12 8:18 am - Phoenix, AZ
VSG on 03/16/12
 And I never claimed that I don't trust the product - I am going off their labeling and website. Which is 375mg bid not a daily dosage in one serving. :-)
    
                
Kevin H.
on 4/15/12 8:21 am - Baltimore, MD
VSG on 02/06/12
 One of my favorite people on here is Frisco .. he said just the other day in a post something along the lines of not to listen to everyone on here because there is a lot of bad advice that is given out.  I urge everyone to do their own research so good on ya for making that effort!

 
  

Kevin H.
on 4/15/12 8:19 am - Baltimore, MD
VSG on 02/06/12
I hear ya .. I want to do what is best for me as well.  Good luck to you!

 
  

Mom78
on 4/15/12 3:02 pm
VSG on 02/10/12
Khessmd,

My reply was to the original post not disputing yours.  I work in a hospital and by no means would blive what half the used cars salesman (drug reps) are selling!

I believe to each his own. Whatever makes you healthy! 
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