Carbs vs Fiber Carbs

slimpickins5280
on 12/12/12 3:49 am - CO

Meant that for a different thread.

Sorry.

carry on.

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dcsabrina
on 12/12/12 4:03 am - MD
If you check your gummies I suspect you'll find they are mostly (and likely all) SOLUBLE fiber, which your body does need some of, but it's not the kind that directly leads to the particular result I think you're looking for. For that you need to complement with INSOLUBLE fiber -as the name implies, this isn't broken down much by the body and instead passes through, taking other waste stuff with it. This is more the "roughage" type of fiber - cruciferous veggies, greens, psyllium, etc which can be hard to get in early out since they, by design, take up a lot of space in your stomach. I know I am also struggling with getting enough fiber since I'm still supposed to be on soft foods and my doc doesn't like any of the fiber powders because almost all of them swell in the stomach. Ugh.

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happiegirl
on 12/12/12 4:04 am - Albuquerque, NM
VSG on 04/24/12

Here is what I found from the Dr. OZ show.  I remember he talked about it.  I don't know that I agree on the differences between soluble and insoluble fiber.  I would like to see something saying that it is digested.  Everything I've ever read says they are not.

http://www.doctoroz.com/blog/jodi-sawyer-rn/why-fiber-so-important

 

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on 12/12/12 4:19 am
desertmom
on 12/12/12 4:28 am - Dubai, XX
VSG on 03/13/12
Or you could try ispagulla husk.That works like a charm.

However,a couple of weeks ago I started taking 2 acidophylus caps with every meal and my problem of the past 9 months is gone.Just totally back to normal like before.I must say that I have eaten Indian,Thai and chili this week which might also have helped,I dont know.Will see tomorrow what happens as I wasnt home and didnt take any of the little magic bacteria today and I've had plain chicken or beef with onion an capsicum for the past 2 says (all my meals,boring I know)

We do need fiber.Everybody does.You can always try you new fiber find and see if it affects your weight loss.If you dont eat a lot of other carbs per day,you might still end up at 40 with some careful planning and I've been on 40 all along.

  

    

    

    
desertmom
on 12/12/12 5:10 am - Dubai, XX
VSG on 03/13/12
Hi

Not to be funny or anything,but to get at least 20g of fiber a day you have to eat a whole lot of those veggies every day.I use fitday and when I did make the fiber,my carbs were much higher as well?
Parsnip for instance have 10.5g of carbs in 3oz with only 3.9g of fibre and 57 calories.Broccoli 6oz, 11.3g carbs and 4.4g of fiber and 60 calories.So you would have to do at least 2 other high fiber veggies to get that in.1 average size brussel sprout have 1.5g carb .5g fiber and about 7.6calories.For 5g fiber you'd have to eat 10 and that would give you a total carb of 15 carbs.This is already 39 carbs for these three portions.The 25 in the corn bran seems like less food,less calories and less carbs even if you count them all.

At 9 months out I would have to be snacking constantly during the day to get all that veggies in

Could you actually eat that much per day?I keep reading the what do you eat post and actually always think I eat way more solid food than them,but they dont post portion sizes.Even so,4oz total food portion per meal (then I have to leave a bite or 2) and 2oz per snack is about it for a day.

Of course I will learn to value the veggies the longer out I am.

Just trying to say that maybe the corn bran isnt such a bad idea after all IMHO.

  

    

    

    
Julie L.
on 12/12/12 7:32 am - Montreal, Canada
VSG on 11/08/12

I agree that a stool softener may be the answer here and not more fiber.

I read this article years ago by Dr Eades (Protein Power) that explained why he felt that fiber wasn't necessary:

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/fiber/a-cautionary-tale-of-mucus-fore-and-aft/

 

PaulaToronto
on 12/12/12 8:11 am - Toronto, Canada

I personally had to add a stool softener and then that wasnt' enough either so I added two 4 strain probiotics at night and gradually cut out the stool softener. Worked like a charm.  I had to try a couple different probiotic brands  before I got the desired result.  That's why I recommend a multi strain.  I use Jamieson brand but don't know if you have that brand in the states.  I usually go daily and no  problems whereas I struggled for months to go once a week .  The probiotic keeps healthy bacteria in your gut so things move along quickly. I find fiber supplements just cause me to retain water and bloat. I eat one ounce of cauliflower or broccoli per day - that helps too. I eat them raw or cooked. You can dip in greek yogurt tzatziki or just add dry seasoning package to greek yogurt.

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desertmom
on 12/12/12 2:21 pm - Dubai, XX
VSG on 03/13/12
Hi Paula

I also had to try a few different probiotics before I found the one that just works for me.My dr told me to take take 2 with each meal and I havent looked back.

This was the one issue that made me regret the surgery for the first 8 months.It was really overwhelming for me to think I would have to take laxatives (and most stoolsofteners are just that) for e rest of my life.And what would be enough today was to much tomorrow or not enough the next day.

The probiotics have changed my life and my weight seems to be coming off way faster as well.(looking for a reason why I dropping weight so fast lately and this is the only thing that has changed)

People should just give it a try.

On the fiber issue,I must say I also got very bloated and am glad my focus can be back on protein and off the fiber.

  

    

    

    
michellemj
on 12/12/12 9:48 am

You've gotten enough replies about why a carb is a carb...but for the lack of pooping, this is what worked for me:

AM: 1 Primal Defense Ultra Probiotic (early am, empty stomach...at least 30min before anything else).

Lunchtime: 500mg MgOxide

Bedtime: 500mg MgOxide, 4 colace (you may be able to get away with less), 1 Primal Defense Ultra probiotic.

and Miralax is fine. It's not habit forming and doesn't make you go, just makes it easier. Other people like chia seeds, but I didn't really like the texture. You may wanna try. You can mix into greek yogurt for crunch or in your water and they form a little gel.

and of course, drink tons of water. but that doesn't seem to be your issue based on your daily food logs on the what are you eating posts...

HW: 280; SW: 255; GW1: 150; CW: 155.

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