Over My Calories By 916

I'm just saying I know myself, and the result of a night like that, for me, would be a few more days of eating things I shouldn't and/or HUGE carb withdrawal.  My post was really for other people reading this who might decide they should follow your lead.

i'm not PC, but i've been around for a while.

1.  **** happens

2.  learn from this -- liquid calories are the worst and biggest waste -- the teach that in WW for chrissakes

3.  folks are right, now is the time to be as rigid as possible

4.  i'm not even a Cirangle-ite, but 916 cals is more then 2/3 of my daily goal.

5.  it's all one big friggin' slippery slope -- stay off it

peace out

Sound advice.

Lol, cirangle-ite :)

I hesitate to respond but here goes...

You said you weren't looking to justify, but by simply making this post, you did. You wanted someone or many someone's to tell you it was ok.

and second, if you knew you were planning to eat lots of off plan food and drink lots of great wine, why the heck did you have a slice of pizza earlier in the day?

There's a quote that a wise OH poster would say in this situation:

"Justification and masturbation are one in the same. In the end, you are just screwing yourself."

I have come to realize that it does look like I was looking to hear it was ok but I do not need that kind of coddling. I was more looking for the "you jackass what were you thinking?" I probably should have phrased more like I needed a spanking.

The pizza which was more like 1/3 of a slice (2 small bites) was after a run and I was feeling a bit shaky and I thought some fast carbs would help. Which it did. Not a great choice in retrospect but it served a purpose. There I go justifying again.

Being a man I can take your quote to heart but I don't think they have the same outcome.

As someone who has had hypoglycemia their whole life... 1/8-1/4 cup of apple juice would have done the same and the not from concentrate one is 25 calories.

A yogurt would have done the same.

Turkey pepperette and a cheese string the same.

1/2 cup of V8 juice. Also low cal, and effective.

2 small bites is not 1/3 of a piece... so it is one or the other.

I've have Pizza too... The toppings. No need for crust... Just the toppings. Tasty as sin too! Another one of my low fat, low carb, need some protein things I do on occasion. I still have to account for the fat in it and even if I get the one with turkey pepperoni... it is too much fat even for me who needs to meet a certain goal.

Unfortunately MyFitnessPal does not offer 2 small bites as an option when logging a slice of pizza. The bites I took amounted to about 1/3 of the slice based on my estimation and that is what I took the calories for. 

I have eaten the top of pizza before but yesterday it was readily available and I wanted the cheap carbs because I felt I had exhausted my glycogen stores not because of blood sugar. I want to protect the little bit of muscle I have left. 

Go with protein though to build and maintain your muscle. That's why we are told to consume 90 g+ of protein a day.

Interestingly you just said you felt you had depleted your glycogen stores... Muscle glycogen is converted into glucose for use by muscles... And liver glycogen is converted into glucose for use by your entire body.

So... Let's go back to what you just did. Glucose for your entire body is what you targeted with what you consumed... So in effect it was the same thing as apple juice.

Basically you thought you should consume a food with a high glycemic index if you really thought you were "hitting the wall" (glycogen depletion in athletes)... Why wouldn't you use one of the other two methods instead? Or choose a vegetable/fruit based high glycemic index item?

FYI... From a former athlete... Glycogen depletion doesn't cause shakiness. That is glucose levels being too low (which while along the same lines are at very different points). Glycogen depletion in the truest sense will literally make it nearly impossible to move because of extreme fatigue. The difference between the two feelings is night and day.

Oh and to deplete my glycogen that much... I was cycling 25 km+ at a fast pace. Off days from soccer, swimming and power lifting... I cycled.

You said it yourself:

"was after a run and I was feeling a bit shaky and I thought some fast carbs would help"

That is glucose (in relation to activity and energy expenditure). That could be combated with meat, and cheese to keep you in a fat burning state... Cheese and some apple slices works also if you want the carbs with protein. Orange slices are excellent as a boost after or during sports as it will provide carbs, and an immediate glucose boost (prevent or stop the shaky feeling).

But what do I know. I gave up sports when I got ill a few years back. Then my ass got fat. *chuckle*

Sounds like you know a lot. Certainly more than I do on this. Eating a low carb diet as I am sure you know doesn't give us much glycogen to work with. It was my muscles that were shaky. Fruit would have been better and if I had spent more than 1 second thinking about I might have made a different choice. It was sitting there, in my limited knowledge based on a YouTube video I felt like the couple bites of pizza fit the bill. Not a good choice you are right.