Terrifying Dumping Incident + is this normal?

Elizabeth N.
on 7/24/10 11:00 am - Burlington County, NJ
I can't see Youtube right now, so please explain it here. But bottom line? You don't dump with the DS. You might have gotten reactive hypoglycemia, but you didn't dump. So please take the video down now.

If you're drinking juice or other carby beverages, and they aren't diluted a whole LOT, like about times five or more, stop drinking that stuff and you'll feel a lot better.
Georgina R.
on 7/24/10 11:17 am - Bakersfield, CA
Haven't seen your video, but yeah...if you drank something sugary and then had an episode it was probably reactive hypoglycemia.  I get that too.  Water down your sugared drinks or make sure you only drink them with some kind of protein to balance things out.

It's not real dumping, but it's similar and I get it sometimes too so I know it can be scary.  Just take some precautions and you'll be fine.
(deactivated member)
on 7/24/10 11:24 am - Canada
 Well I suppose anything is possible! But considering I had every single symptom of dumping syndrome, I didn't think it was so outrageous to determine that was an option.  My nutritionist warned me about dumping so I think at least some DSers get it.  That doesn't necessarily mean that DS in the cause but certainly there may be some relation.  The only one I didn't get was syncope in the sense that I never actually fainted.  

Early dumping systemic symptoms
  • Desire to lie down
  • Palpitations
  • Fatigue
  • Faintness
  • Syncope
  • Diaphoresis
  • Headache
  • Flushing
Reactive hypoglycemia is definitely a possibility too, however, I have never had issues with sugar my entire life and the symptoms started within 15-20 minutes of drinking.  



Julie R.
on 7/24/10 11:38 am - Ludington, MI
And those are all also symptoms of heat exhaustion.   I believe your NUT is mistaken.   Truly, they don't know **** about the DS.
Of the hundreds and hundreds of DS'ers  I've interacted with on the boards, I've only known of one "dumping-like" reaction, and she can now eat sugary things with no problem.  
Julie R - Ludington, Michigan
Duodenal Switch 08/09/06 - Dr. Paul Kemmeter, Grand Rapids, Michigan
HW: 282 - 5'4"
SW: 268
GW: 135
CW: 125

Ms. Cal Culator
on 7/24/10 11:50 am - Tuvalu
On July 24, 2010 at 6:24 PM Pacific Time, GulligGully wrote:
 Well I suppose anything is possible! But considering I had every single symptom of dumping syndrome, I didn't think it was so outrageous to determine that was an option.  My nutritionist warned me about dumping so I think at least some DSers get it.  That doesn't necessarily mean that DS in the cause but certainly there may be some relation.  The only one I didn't get was syncope in the sense that I never actually fainted.  

Early dumping systemic symptoms
  • Desire to lie down
  • Palpitations
  • Fatigue
  • Faintness
  • Syncope
  • Diaphoresis
  • Headache
  • Flushing
Reactive hypoglycemia is definitely a possibility too, however, I have never had issues with sugar my entire life and the symptoms started within 15-20 minutes of drinking.  





People in the middle of a dumping incident don't generally have lucid conversations about taxis (that's as far as I got on your video.)  They generally curl up in a fetal position right where they are--or on the bathroom floor if vomiting is involved--and squirm and moan in pain for 20 minutes or so.



DUMPING SYNDROME--Causes
By Mayo Clinic staff

In dumping syndrome, food and gastric juices from your stomach move to your small intestine in an unregulated, abnormally fast manner. This accelerated process is most often related to changes in your stomach associated with surgery. For example, when the opening (pylorus) between your stomach and the first portion of the small intestine (duodenum) has been damaged or removed during an operation, dumping syndrome may develop.



HYPOGLYCEMIA--Symptoms
By Mayo Clinic staff

Your brain needs a steady supply of sugar (glucose), for it neither stores nor manufactures its own energy supply. If glucose levels become too low, as occurs with hypoglycemia, it can have these effects on your brain:

Confusion, abnormal behavior or both, such as the inability to complete routine tasks
Visual disturbances, such as double vision and blurred vision
Seizures, though uncommon
Loss of consciousness, though uncommon
Hypoglycemia may also cause these other signs and symptoms:

Heart palpitations
Tremor
Anxiety
Sweating
Hunger
These signs and symptoms aren't specific to hypoglycemia. There may be other causes. Measurement of your blood sugar level at the time of these signs and symptoms is the only way to know for sure that hypoglycemia is the cause.

(deactivated member)
on 7/24/10 11:53 am
NUTs are often very confused by the different types of WLS and give out misinformation. The sooner you can learn to tune them out, the happier you will be as a DSer. Mine thinks that low-fat diets with lots of fruit and veggies are good for DSers. She also believes that more than 120 grams of protein per day is "too much", and the list goes on.

The thing to understand about the DS is that our pyloric valve regulates the flow of food into our intestines. "Dumping" happens when the food literally gets "dumped" into the small intestine. RNY folks experience this because their pylorus is bypassed.

My understanding is that a DSer (or even a non-op) patient will only experience dumping syndrome if they have a damaged pylorus or a motility issue. But these situations are VERY, very rare.

It is far more likely that your symptoms are accounted for by the other things mentioned in this thread.
(deactivated member)
on 7/24/10 11:59 am - Markham, Canada
Even though I'm a pre-op, I know that it doesn't have to mean you're experiencing dumping syndrome if you experience those symptoms that you listed.  I tend to suffer from dizzyness/vertigo and if I'm having a VERY bad episode, I feel like the walking dead and it causes me extreme anxiety and I will get cold sweats, barely be able to walk, feel extremely lightheaded and dizzy with occassional spinning (vertigo) and will feel like I'm about to pass out and all I want to do is just throw myself onto a bed in a dark, air-conditioned room and never come out!   And I've never had any form of WLS.  Yet.  So don't worry... I'm sure the previous posters were right about you over-exerting yourself so soon after such a major surgery.
Ms. Cal Culator
on 7/24/10 12:07 pm - Tuvalu
On July 24, 2010 at 6:24 PM Pacific Time, GulligGully wrote:
 Well I suppose anything is possible! But considering I had every single symptom of dumping syndrome, I didn't think it was so outrageous to determine that was an option.  My nutritionist warned me about dumping so I think at least some DSers get it.  That doesn't necessarily mean that DS in the cause but certainly there may be some relation.  The only one I didn't get was syncope in the sense that I never actually fainted.  

Early dumping systemic symptoms
  • Desire to lie down
  • Palpitations
  • Fatigue
  • Faintness
  • Syncope
  • Diaphoresis
  • Headache
  • Flushing
Reactive hypoglycemia is definitely a possibility too, however, I have never had issues with sugar my entire life and the symptoms started within 15-20 minutes of drinking.  





Hey, there's some chick over there with a video about how she dumped with her LapBand.  Impossible, of course, but she's convinced because it was something she had never experienced pre-op.
Ms. Cal Culator
on 7/24/10 11:08 pm - Tuvalu
On July 24, 2010 at 7:07 PM Pacific Time, Ms. Cal Culator wrote:
On July 24, 2010 at 6:24 PM Pacific Time, GulligGully wrote:
 Well I suppose anything is possible! But considering I had every single symptom of dumping syndrome, I didn't think it was so outrageous to determine that was an option.  My nutritionist warned me about dumping so I think at least some DSers get it.  That doesn't necessarily mean that DS in the cause but certainly there may be some relation.  The only one I didn't get was syncope in the sense that I never actually fainted.  

Early dumping systemic symptoms
  • Desire to lie down
  • Palpitations
  • Fatigue
  • Faintness
  • Syncope
  • Diaphoresis
  • Headache
  • Flushing
Reactive hypoglycemia is definitely a possibility too, however, I have never had issues with sugar my entire life and the symptoms started within 15-20 minutes of drinking.  





Hey, there's some chick over there with a video about how she dumped with her LapBand.  Impossible, of course, but she's convinced because it was something she had never experienced pre-op.


I know you'll read this even though you deactivated, so I need to mention...you also had MANY of the symptoms of a drug overdose as well as the symptoms of  being in labor...
Elizabeth N.
on 7/24/10 11:47 pm - Burlington County, NJ
Not to mention symptoms of pulmonary embolism.

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