"Cleaned" Repost - My Labs Suck, Advice . . .
You've gotten some great responses. I sent you an email.
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I gave up on CRP which is 13.0 with a normal range of less than 1, but the rest finally posted as a separate post above/ more recent. Whew.
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On June 8, 2011 at 6:03 PM Pacific Time, Lisey wrote:
First general question - how far in advance to stop taking your vitamins before morning lab draw? I took my full regular doses the day before, finishing in the evening & got these drawn around 8:00am while fasting (traditional food fasting from night before through morning).There's only vitamin B6 & K1 that I don't know the results at all. I know that I need to increase the vitamins that I'm deficient in. I will post my vitamin schedule first.
As for Vitamin A, I had been taking 50k units, twice daily & I added in a 3rd 25k dose only about 1 month ago. I still think I should increase that to 100k total units/day. Thoughts on whether to add that in as a separate A, say first thing upon rising or to double up with a different A or possibly add it to my second batch, which currently has no A. Advice please!
My first D draw after surgery was low at 28 when I was taking only 25k. I then upped it to twice daily 50K & it went up to 96 in 4 months. I then went down to 25k units twice daily and it's now 47. I have since added in a third calcium with A dose so my thought is to add in another 25k to that dose & see how it affects the level. Advice please!
I take 50mg (mcg?) as gluconate from Pilgrim's Pride. When I initially tested borderline low/normal for this, I added zinc in - I hadn't been taking it prior, yet my zinc level has fallen after adding it in. Am I taking a ****ty form of it & need to get one with better bioavailability or do I just need to up that to 2 pills/day? Advice please!
I'm not concerned about my "high" B12.
About my CRP - I've been having inflammation episodes with both knees, particularly the right one & just saw an orthopedic for this on the 27th. He ordered a MRI, which I did & I have a f/u this Friday. Maybe CRP is due to this? Osteoarthritis runs in my family & I was a very active MO person (jogging, taekwondo). Thoughts?
My coagulation markers are all high. I believe that suggests a low vitamin K. Am I remembering that correctly? Again, am waiting on K1 results.
My protein & globulin markers are almost all out of range & I'm not sure what to make of them. Advice very much needed!
My total cholesterol has fallen to 88. Is it even possible to have too low?
MY IRON SUCKS ASS. They're sending me to a hemotologist for probable iron infusion(s). I had been taking vitalady's Tender Iron (fumerate) since surgery (318mg), but had been feeling really tired for several months. I suspected I was low on iron & switched to one Proferrin (cut in half) & one Heme polypetide about 8 - 10 wks ago. I'm guessing I'm too low to dig myself out of it with these, but any advice on what else to take or dosages is welcome. My ferritin is out of range high (way high) so I'm hesitant it take ferrous fumerate b/c I think that's for ferritin - yes?
My immunity CBC wasn't so great. Not sure what to make of that. I had been feeling fine, temp was fine. Not greatly concerned about it, but thoughts welcome if someone else can connect dots I'm not seeing!!!
MMA was low. I read online that high was a precursor to low B12. Any reason to be concerned was a low MMA reading?
Vitamins I take, mostly vitalady's (except Mg, multi, calcium, B's, C):
Batch One:
2 calcium citrate, D, A, E, bcomplex, b12 sublingual (I do put it under my tongue), B6, folate, magnesium
Batch Two:
multivitamin, zinc, K1 (1000mcg), k2 (100)
Batch Three:
C, Copper (5mg), Proferrin cut in half, Heme popypeptide
Batch Four:
2 calcium citrate, D, A, milk thistle, magnesium
Batch Five:
2 calcium citrate, A
Here's My Labs!!!
Test L/H Range Value
Vit A L 38 - 98 23
Vit D, 25 Hydr. 30 - 100 47
Vit B12 H 211 - 911 >1500
Folate >5.4 23.1
Zinc L 60 - 130 55
Copper 70 - 175 156
Magnesium 1.5 - 2.6 2
Selenium 120 - 200 147
Calcium 8.2 - 10.5 9.5
PTH 14 - 72 29.7
Osteocalcin almost H 11.3 - 35.4 35
CRP H
See my response to the OH post below....
It is in regards to vitamin A and inflammation.
You CRP is very high and it affects your serum Vitamin A levels (amongst other things).
I can not encourage you all enough to seek guidance from a professional with experience in nutrition support regarding these issues.
Vitamin and mineral leves are not something to take for "face value."
Serum levels are affected by MANY, MANY things and you could do MORE HARM than benefit by increasing your vitamin and mineral intake.
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/DS/4394332/Mayo-Hospital-Update/page,1/action,replies/topic_id,4394332/
I have a Facebook group and I think you should consider joining it-
There are a lot of DS babes and vets there as well as evidenced-based nutrition information.
If you add me on FB I can add you in:
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Group is "Nutrition Matters"
P.S.
You def. need to fast from taking your vitamins before you have your labs assessed.
Each test requires a different length of time.
In general, 3 days is a good idea; however, some tests require a 1 week fast from supplementation.
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Why fast from vitamins if we are supposed to take them daily until the day we die and the point of taking them is EXACTLY to keep the in-range levels in our system?
So what is the point of testing what the levels might be without them in the system? by fasting and thus depriving the organism of these vitamins? Do we need to know what we would be like without? Or with?
I would really appreciate some logical/scientific reply if someone is willing. THANKS!
So what is the point of testing what the levels might be without them in the system? by fasting and thus depriving the organism of these vitamins? Do we need to know what we would be like without? Or with?
I would really appreciate some logical/scientific reply if someone is willing. THANKS!
On June 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM Pacific Time, meme54 wrote:
Why fast from vitamins if we are supposed to take them daily until the day we die and the point of taking them is EXACTLY to keep the in-range levels in our system?So what is the point of testing what the levels might be without them in the system? by fasting and thus depriving the organism of these vitamins? Do we need to know what we would be like without? Or with?
I would really appreciate some logical/scientific reply if someone is willing. THANKS!
However, unfortunately, testing of nonfasting specimens or the use of vitamin supplementation immediately before a test can result in elevated plasma vitamin concentrations. There are things to consider like the vitamin's half-life, etc.
It is the same for testing your glucose levels, if you eat a big bowl of ice cream and then go have your sugars checked, your plasma sugar level will be higher than normal.
There is a difference between plasma concentrations and tissue concentrations. Remember, vitamins aren't stored floating around in your blood. They are stored in cells, organs, etc.
I think refraining from vitamins for 1 day is generally acceptable. If you do not want to fast, don't fast. It's up to you. If you want to pop a vitamin D and then test your serum levels, go ahead. The result will represent your serum level at it's peak, but it isn't representative of the rise before, or after. Hope this helps.
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